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[QUOTE=dmek25;1203421]maybe putting an end to this?
[url]https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/20/us-saudi-arabia-seal-weapons-deal-worth-nearly-110-billion-as-trump-begins-visit.html[/url][/QUOTE]So we throw away an arms deal with one of our strongest governmental allies that has over the past year seen several substantive reforms, including women driving, and drive the saudi rulers back towards fundamental islam, thats the right next step?

World war 1 started because an archbishop was murdered in sarajevo

World war 2 started when germany felt russia had pledged non aggression

Lets combine the 2 and overreact to a brutal murder and pull away from irans biggest adversary and see if we cant remix a new way to blow up the mideast.

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[quote=mooby;1203419]Both of you are wack motherfuckers. You need your own forum dedicated to you two verbally sucking each other off.

We know Kashoggi's story by now, he was a Saudi citizen who moved to the US after SA silenced him for speaking up against them. Only people saying he was a US citizen are ill-informed.

Do you know why this is important? 15 of 19. That's the number of 9/11 hijackers from Saudi Arabia. How many repercussions did SA face for their support of Al-Qaeda again? We literally went to 2 unnecessary wars because of those attacks. Meanwhile they faced NO GODDAMN PUNISHMENT for their roles because we need them. 3000 Americans dead and their families are told the country most responsible can't be held accountable.

The US stepping back on this reaffirms that Saudi Arabia can enter a foreign country and brutally murder anyone and will face no repercussions from the one nation that can actually hold them accountable. It tells them they have the freedom to do whatever they want because of our reliance on them.

But once again, money is more important than human life. But who's kidding who here, even if the US as a country didn't have a fantastic business relationship with SA [URL="https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1052193155011960834"]Trump certainly does[/URL] so [URL="https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/oct/18/donald-trump/donald-trumps-claim-no-financial-interests-saudi-a/"]he would never do anything[/URL] to rock that boat.[/quote]

I totally should s10 this with a “too long, didn’t read” but I simply can’t turn away. Mooby I can’t quit you damn it!

Mooby, we’ve been working with SA for a longtime. And no trump business deals aren’t pulling the strings. Come’on man.

But I’m really surprised this was the one thing that finally caused you go off when it comes to recent Middle East events.

Let’s see: isis, genocide, American beheadings, countless garbage Muslims doing countless garbage things, Sharia law, state sponsors of terror doing terrorists things, attacks on this country and inspired attacks in this country, horrific European attacks, etc.

But this was the thing that set you off?

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[quote=dmek25;1203421]maybe putting an end to this?
[url]https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/20/us-saudi-arabia-seal-weapons-deal-worth-nearly-110-billion-as-trump-begins-visit.html[/url][/quote]

Second thought...maybe we could or put some type of benchmarks for the Saudies to meet before allowing the deal.

One thing we aren’t talking about, with the SA admission, the United States is in a position of power & leverage...and has some political capital in its dealings with the Saudis. This is a bad look for them...

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Obama deflections??? I am disappointed , i guess the cult is running out of "alternative facts".

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I'm sure putin is only kidding..............,I mean he and trump are buddies!



[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-hails-sunset-u-global-020820083.html[/url]



World
Putin Hails Sunset of U.S. Global Domination Due To Mounting 'Mistakes'
HuffPost Mary Papenfuss,HuffPost Thu, Oct 18 10:08 PM EDT


Russian President Vladimir Putin gloated Thursday about what he sees as the end of the United States’ world dominance due to growing “mistakes.”

Putin also claimed America holds “some responsibility” for the disappearance of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi because the Saudi journalist was living in the U.S., he said in annual foreign policy speech, according to the Financial Times. He did not elaborate. Khashoggi has not been seen since he entered the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul on Oct. 2. Turkish officials say he was murdered and dismembered by orders of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

“In this regard, the U.S. has a certain responsibility. If someone knows what happens and there was a murder, I hope some evidence is provided. And dependent on that, we will make some decisions,” Putin added in his remarks in the Black Sea resort of Sochi. He said there was currently no reason to “harm our relations with Saudi Arabia.”

As for the U.S., he said that “empires often think they can make some little mistakes ... because they’re so powerful. But when the number of these mistakes keeps growing, it reaches a level they cannot sustain.”

He added: “A country can get the sense from impunity that you can do anything. This is the result of the monopoly from a unipolar world ... . Luckily this monopoly is disappearing. It’s almost done.”

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1203414]More conspiracy theories huh? So another case of business deals where trump is pulling all the strings? Just like the Supreme Court where the outgoing court justice son had this business deal with trump who pulled the strings...you guys are amazing.



The broad stroke of “just an American citizen “ and throwing in a Mexican hypothetical....you really have no clue what’s going on and your just nodding your head to the propaganda being spewed.



Shit, lets just get to the end of the narrative you want, trump had this guy killed.[/QUOTE]



How much coincidence has to exist around the same guy before you start to think it may not be coincidence? Holy effing obliviousness.
And no the outcome im pointing to is not trump had this guy killed, but classic rightist move to try and stretch the narrative to such extremes that it all seems crazy. What im getting at is that as long as you are somehow making his wallet fatter he will do his best to ignore the fact that you just killed that guy. And stop the shit about canceling summits like either side really cares C Red. As if that shows that he is against killing American citizens and than acting like “who me”?

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1203418]Trump is responsible. He encouraged the saudis to do this so that america would pull out from saudi thus allowing Putin to take over leadership of the middle east. At the same time the koreas are reopening shared railways in order for chinese troops to take over south korea. And trump is giving offensive weapons to ukraine so that russia will have justification to take over ukraine and estonia.

Thus trump will ensure russian domination of the world forever and putin will buy a trump hotel in exchange.

Can't believe you dont understand that chico.[/QUOTE]



Like Mooby said fuck off with your sarcastic response. For fuck sake he agreed that there was a fucking rogue murderer responsible! He said it! I heard it! It is not fake news! He is clearly clearly doing everything in his power to downplay what the Saudis did! If this were Obamas response to the same thing you nutjob conservative right wing uber patriots would be shouting MUSLIM PRESIDENT from the high heavens! Just for once admit that his response and actions to this murder was soft. If it were a Mexican gang member it would be WW3. But the fuckin Saudi investor who is currying favor by staying at his property and buying more weapons from us than anyone in the world gets the benefit of the doubt when there is no fucking doubt! Remove heads from asses guys. Please. For fucks sake. Wake the fuck up. It’s ok to admit you were wrong. Promise nobody is going to make you eat crow.

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[quote=punch it in;1203442]Like Mooby said fuck off with your sarcastic response. For fuck sake he agreed that there was a fucking rogue murderer responsible! He said it! I heard it! It is not fake news! He is clearly clearly doing everything in his power to downplay what the Saudis did! If this were Obamas response to the same thing you nutjob conservative right wing uber patriots would be shouting MUSLIM PRESIDENT from the high heavens! Just for once admit that his response and actions to this murder was soft. If it were a Mexican gang member it would be WW3. But the fuckin Saudi investor who is currying favor by staying at his property and buying more weapons from us than anyone in the world gets the benefit of the doubt when there is no fucking doubt! Remove heads from asses guys. Please. For fucks sake. Wake the fuck up. It’s ok to admit you were wrong. Promise nobody is going to make you eat crow.[/quote]

Trump stated let’s wait for an investigation and that it could have been rogue killers, and that he didn’t know.

This is the official response from the Obama adminstration when multiple us citizens were killed in Benghazi. Susan rice got on all the Sunday morning shows and blamed it on a YouTube video:

[YT]hGXy_yhOfNg[/YT]

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Benghazi benghazi emails benghazi the wall mexican rapists benghazi.
Gotcha

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[quote=Chico23231;1203445]Trump stated let’s wait for an investigation and that it could have been rogue killers, and that he didn’t know.

This is the official response from the Obama adminstration when multiple us citizens were killed in Benghazi. Susan rice got on all the Sunday morning shows and blamed it on a YouTube video:
[/quote]

AHHHHH , Chico and his Obama deflections , when is doubt of what to say.

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[quote=Giantone;1203734]AHHHHH , Chico and his Obama deflections , when is doubt of what to say.[/quote]

The recent history on the geo political mess which is the Middle East matters g1. Don’t worry, tomorrow I got another post for the thread which will sum up the faux outrage from the left over this Saudi event. I’m gonna celebrate tonight though

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[quote=Chico23231;1203815]The recent history on the geo political mess which is the Middle East matters g1. Don’t worry, tomorrow I got another post for the thread which will sum up the faux outrage from the left over this Saudi event.[/quote]



Oh I am sure you do, I'm sure you will make something fit your made up BS narrative . The Skins played well ,congratulations.

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When Redskins win, all political posts should be blocked.

Man, at the end of the day, we're mostly getting screwed on both sides, regardless of what side you fall on.

Band of brothers and sisters.

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To be up front I am not blaming this on one side over the other. We did this to ourselves

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/10/24/bomb-sent-bill-hillary-clintons-home-new-york-city-suburb/?utm_term=.5a70a5e206b4[/url]

This political climate ....

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1204207]To be up front I am not blaming this on one side over the other. We did this to ourselves

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/10/24/bomb-sent-bill-hillary-clintons-home-new-york-city-suburb/?utm_term=.5a70a5e206b4[/url]

This political climate ....[/quote]

Hopefully all of us here agree that the sender or senders of these bombs should be caught and punished to the fullest extent possible. Politicians, while overall idiots, are a fundamental part of our US democracy, and individual violence against any of them should not be tolerated.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1204231]Hopefully all of us here agree that the sender or senders of these bombs should be caught and punished to the fullest extent possible. Politicians, while overall idiots, are a fundamental part of our US democracy, and individual violence against any of them should not be tolerated.[/quote]

This is a message even Trump can't screw up. Kudos to him and the overall regime for the uniform denouncement against this bs. Initial impressions is that the person responsible did a good job of covering up his tracks, but I have faith we will find the person responsible.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1204234]This is a message even Trump can't screw up. Kudos to him and the overall regime for the uniform denouncement against this bs. Initial impressions is that the person responsible did a good job of covering up his tracks, but I have faith we will find the person responsible.[/QUOTE]This is honestly what the fbi and quantico does best. It would be shocking to me if they didnt piece it all together quickly.

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Cnn can fuck off for blaming the president for this. It’s pathetic

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[quote=Chico23231;1204238]Cnn can fuck off for blaming the president for this. It’s pathetic[/quote]

I mean from my perspective it's easy to link the most powerful man in the world relentlessly verbally abusing Obama, Clinton, and CNN with someone taking that message too far. But that's just me. Rationally, I'd put some blame on the president for spreading the message, and most of the blame on the deranged individual stupid enough to send pipe bombs in the mail.

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[quote=mooby;1204243]I mean from my perspective it's easy to link the most powerful man in the world relentlessly verbally abusing Obama, Clinton, and CNN with someone taking that message too far. But that's just me. Rationally, I'd put some blame on the president for spreading the message, and most of the blame on the deranged individual stupid enough to send pipe bombs in the mail.[/quote]

I agree with this .

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[QUOTE=mooby;1204243]I mean from my perspective it's easy to link the most powerful man in the world relentlessly verbally abusing Obama, Clinton, and CNN with someone taking that message too far. But that's just me. Rationally, I'd put some blame on the president for spreading the message, and most of the blame on the deranged individual stupid enough to send pipe bombs in the mail.[/QUOTE]So does the same apply to Bernie Sanders and his follower who shot a republican congressman and had a list of others?

But what amazes me with this, Kavanaugh, even the Saudi situation is the fact that things like evidence, proof of specific individual intent, and even basic waiting for facts, seems to be thrown out of the liberal media's legal lexicon.

When the fbi finds the person or people who did this then we can identify their intent. In my opinion, and this doesnt mean i approve in any way, if a far right idiot or far left idiot intended for these things to cause real harm then they likely would have know how to build them. More likely this was really pure political theatrical terrorism - meaning the intent was not the explosions themselves as much as the terror that they have created and the media backlash 2 weeks before an important election.

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[quote=mooby;1204243]I mean from my perspective it's easy to link the most powerful man in the world relentlessly verbally abusing Obama, Clinton, and CNN with someone taking that message too far. But that's just me. Rationally, I'd put some blame on the president for spreading the message, and most of the blame on the deranged individual stupid enough to send pipe bombs in the mail.[/quote]

If these were sent to GOP, CNN would blame the President as well. We all know that.

Story already written in their minds, hence the biased media and their political agenda.

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Words matter.

When you're the President and you routinely attack the media and basically anyone who doesn't kiss your feet and things like this happen, don't be surprised when the suggestion is made that you may have some responsibility.

Let's just say at the very least, Trump's constant attacks on others is not constructive and to think there are no consequences is just naive.

I mean, this did just happen too... [URL="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45958023"]Groping suspect says Trump said it was OK to grab women[/URL]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1204246][B]So does the same apply to Bernie Sanders and his follower who shot a republican congressman[/B] and had a list of others?

But what amazes me with this, Kavanaugh, even the Saudi situation is the fact that things like evidence, proof of specific individual intent, and even basic waiting for facts, seems to be thrown out of the liberal media's legal lexicon.

When the fbi finds the person or people who did this then we can identify their intent. In my opinion, and this doesnt mean i approve in any way, if a far right idiot or far left idiot intended for these things to cause real harm then they likely would have know how to build them. More likely this was really pure political theatrical terrorism - [B]meaning the intent was not the explosions themselves as much as the terror that they have created and the media backlash 2 weeks before an important election[/B].[/quote]

Sure, if you can find evidence of Bernie Sanders displaying a cavalier attitude about violence towards his political opponents, I'd put some blame on him too.

The reason it's important for politicians to have tact is because every major politician is going to have fanatics that will take everything they say to heart.

I agree with your 2nd bolded statement too. Whoever did this had to know there's no way they would get through to their targets.

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[quote=Chico23231;1204247]If these were sent to GOP, CNN would blame the President as well. We all know that.

Story already written in their minds, hence the biased media and their political agenda.[/quote]

The problem is that they weren't. I'm noticing a theme here, every time this shit happens you tend to talk about "well if the shoe was on the other foot... the media would do this." Only far left/far right media sells on "whatabout/what if" scenarios.

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[quote=MTK;1204248]Words matter.

When you're the President and you routinely attack the media and basically anyone who doesn't kiss your feet and things like this happen, don't be surprised when the suggestion is made that you may have some responsibility.

Let's just say at the very least, Trump's constant attacks on others is not constructive and to think there are no consequences is just naive.

I mean, this did just happen too... [URL="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45958023"]Groping suspect says Trump said it was OK to grab women[/URL][/quote]



trump could not go a day without blaming the Media for this...............

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-attacks-apos-hateful-113937887.html[/url]


Donald Trump Attacks 'Hateful' Media Amid Flurry Of Suspicious Packages
HuffPost Hayley Miller,HuffPost


President Donald Trump on Thursday resumed his attack on what he called the “fake news” media after suspicious packages containing potential explosives were sent to CNN and several high-profile Democrats.

“A very big part of the Anger we see today in our society is caused by the purposely false and inaccurate reporting of the Mainstream Media that I refer to as Fake News,” Trump tweeted. “It has gotten so bad and hateful that it is beyond description. Mainstream Media must clean up its act, FAST!”


Trump’s latest attack on the press came a day after what appeared to be pipe bombs were sent to several major Democratic players, including Hillary and Bill Clinton, former President Barack Obama and Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.).

On Thursday morning, police removed a similar suspicious package from the Manhattan offices of actor Robert DeNiro, who has traded insults with Trump.

The packages look similar, and appear to have been sent by the same individual or individuals, authorities said. The motive was unclear, and no one has claimed responsibility.

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[quote=mooby;1204250]The problem is that they weren't. I'm noticing a theme here, every time this shit happens you tend to talk about "well if the shoe was on the other foot... the media would do this." Only far left/far right media sells on "whatabout/what if" scenarios.[/quote]

Why not try to look at everything from all sides? That's kinda the problem with this country...the refusal to see all sides of an issue. People just want the comfort of their bubble because its easier to be a sheep with everything nodding in agreement.


In order to think objectively I try to change perspective to put myself on the other side in order to see big picture. Its a strategy for sure because it will provide context, helps remove emotion and more importantly bias.

So yes, look at every side of an argument, try to understand perspective....it will help give context, it will make you more objective.

I aint mad at you...but yes, I def try to look at both sides. I see CNN certainly isn't doing this, hence the frustration with a large platform providing false narratives, cherry picking facts, giving no context, pointing fingers, AND most importantly calling itself a news organization while pissing all over the ethics of journalism.

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[quote=Chico23231;1204253]Why not try to look at everything from all sides? That's kinda the problem with this country...the refusal to see all sides of an issue. People just want the comfort of their bubble because its easier to be a sheep with everything nodding in agreement.


In order to think objectively I try to change perspective to put myself on the other side in order to see big picture. Its a strategy for sure because it will provide context, helps remove emotion and more importantly bias.

So yes, look at every side of an argument, try to understand perspective....it will help give context, it will make you more objective.

I aint mad at you...but yes, I def try to look at both sides. I see CNN certainly isn't doing this, hence the frustration with a large platform providing false narratives, cherry picking facts, giving no context, pointing fingers, AND most importantly calling itself a news organization while pissing all over the ethics of journalism.[/quote]


Chico , honest question. From your post's do you really believe that you look at everything from all (both) sides of an issue , do you honestly believe you are objective?

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[quote=Chico23231;1204253]Why not try to look at everything from all sides? That's kinda the problem with this country...the refusal to see all sides of an issue. People just want the comfort of their bubble because its easier to be a sheep with everything nodding in agreement.


In order to think objectively I try to change perspective to put myself on the other side in order to see big picture. Its a strategy for sure because it will provide context, helps remove emotion and more importantly bias.

So yes, look at every side of an argument, try to understand perspective....it will help give context, it will make you more objective.

I aint mad at you...but yes, I def try to look at both sides. I see CNN certainly isn't doing this, hence the frustration with a large platform providing false narratives, cherry picking facts, giving no context, pointing fingers, AND most importantly calling itself a news organization while pissing all over the ethics of journalism.[/quote]

Why don't you look at it from the perspective of the nut job? Aka, why would I send this? Where would my motivation to send these come from? Who are the major influences in my life that have led me to believe this is the best course of action?

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[quote=mooby;1204259]Why don't you look at it from the perspective of the nut job? Aka, why would I send this? Where would my motivation to send these come from? Who are the major influences in my life that have led me to believe this is the best course of action?[/quote]

You kinda answer why...but I would wait to find out who, how many, etc. I know its great jump to conclusions...again another principle of shit journalism, but it could be a group ie weathermen. But yes any criminal...we should always look at motivation...I’m certainly taking that into perspective.

But you already know my opinion that the media/social media who is making a ton of revenue in splintering this country in two is responsible for a majority of the political discourse in this country. Political figures such as Trump, Eric Holder, Maxine Waters, Cuomo, etc have embraced a combative tone. We've seen groups such as Proud Boys, Antifa, etc embrace violence with political thought....

Just this past week, NBC news asked Michelle Obama if going high was still the right thing to do? The media has 110% nurtured, encourage and celebrate it....more revenue.

But my statement before is right becuase the dude who shot up the gop...media blamed the president. So we knew the answer already.

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[quote=Giantone;1204251]trump could not go a day without blaming the Media for this...............

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-attacks-apos-hateful-113937887.html[/url]


Donald Trump Attacks 'Hateful' Media Amid Flurry Of Suspicious Packages
HuffPost Hayley Miller,HuffPost


President Donald Trump on Thursday resumed his attack on what he called the “fake news” media after suspicious packages containing potential explosives were sent to CNN and several high-profile Democrats.

“A very big part of the Anger we see today in our society is caused by the purposely false and inaccurate reporting of the Mainstream Media that I refer to as Fake News,” Trump tweeted. “It has gotten so bad and hateful that it is beyond description. Mainstream Media must clean up its act, FAST!”


Trump’s latest attack on the press came a day after what appeared to be pipe bombs were sent to several major Democratic players, including Hillary and Bill Clinton, former President Barack Obama and Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.).

On Thursday morning, police removed a similar suspicious package from the Manhattan offices of actor Robert DeNiro, who has traded insults with Trump.

The packages look similar, and appear to have been sent by the same individual or individuals, authorities said. The motive was unclear, and no one has claimed responsibility.[/quote]

Listen to his speeches from yesterday (I know it's hard with his inflections and mannerisms), or read the transcripts. That story takes a minimal part of his speech and maximizes it, and leaves out his repeated condemnation of the attacks, and of the perpetrators.

On the other side, EVERY democratic operative I heard simply blamed Trump, without caution or care, and used the same attack-laced language that they have lived off of for the last 2 years.

Hillary just a few days before said we won't be civil till we win. Holden said When they go low, Kick them. Maxine Waters called for republicans to be mobbed in public. A republican politician has been shot. A republican office has had it's windows smashed. Republicans across the spectrum have been harrassed in public.

I want to hear the FBI's findings, but the bottomline is that there has been far more calls for actual violence from the frantic liberals who are seeing the loss of every political lever they had, then the conservative base as a whole, and the democratic lawmakers who are inciting them ought to step back, and re-think their strategy. But instead they continue to double down, and go further out of their minds trying to incite their base.

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[quote=mooby;1204249]Sure, if you can find evidence of Bernie Sanders displaying a cavalier attitude about violence towards his political opponents, I'd put some blame on him too.

The reason it's important for politicians to have tact is because every major politician is going to have fanatics that will take everything they say to heart.

I agree with your 2nd bolded statement too. Whoever did this had to know there's no way they would get through to their targets.[/quote]
So:
Maxine Waters - "If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere,"

HRC - “You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about,”

Holder - ‘When they go low, we kick them. That’s what this new Democratic Party is about.'


I'm not holding Trump blameless, but this is so much more than Trump, it's an entire liberal establishment that has seen it's power base - in governmental structures (governors, Congress, Presidency, and now the SC) all stripped away. Honestly, conservatives mostly may get beat up, but unless this was a one off whacko (and it might have been), the liberal base is far more fired up from their leaders to do crazy/violent stunts. At the height of the Obama presidency, when the country leadership was riling it up to the point of the tea party forming or other splinter factions, you didn't see the hostile mobs and violence like we have seen from the anti-trumpers. Conservatives worked out through elections, and they have a confidence in elections. Liberals have no reason to have confidence in elections, they have lost repeatedly, and they have seen 2 presidential losses even as popular votes were in their favor. They have witnessed the SC uphold one of those republican elections, and now they even feel they lost another voice in that body.

I don't know who sent those packages, what I know is that the person(s) who sent it is responsible for those horrendous acts (and they were horrendous whether the intent was to do actual harm, or political terror). That person should be found and prosecuted to the fullest extent, and any conspirators should be as well. But for society to heal, all sides need to put down the word knives, and let elections be where our battles are fought.

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For some reason when I heard about these bombs my first thought was. Some crazy liberal (they are on both sides) planted these bombs to help boost the Democrats right before the election.

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Just like the dems started the caravan full of middle easterners!

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[QUOTE=Back2RFK;1204277]For some reason when I heard about these bombs my first thought was. Some crazy liberal (they are on both sides) planted these bombs to help boost the Democrats right before the election.[/QUOTE]What is sad is that i doubt anybody thinks this is an external threat. I don't know how life was in the period leading up to the civil war but somehow i think the distrust in fellow americans is as high as it must have been in that period.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1204264]So:
Maxine Waters - "If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere,"

HRC - “You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about,”

Holder - ‘When they go low, we kick them. That’s what this new Democratic Party is about.'


I'm not holding Trump blameless, but this is so much more than Trump, it's an entire liberal establishment that has seen it's power base - in governmental structures (governors, Congress, Presidency, and now the SC) all stripped away. Honestly, conservatives mostly may get beat up, but unless this was a one off whacko (and it might have been), the liberal base is far more fired up from their leaders to do crazy/violent stunts. At the height of the Obama presidency, when the country leadership was riling it up to the point of the tea party forming or other splinter factions, you didn't see the hostile mobs and violence like we have seen from the anti-trumpers. Conservatives worked out through elections, and they have a confidence in elections. Liberals have no reason to have confidence in elections, they have lost repeatedly, and they have seen 2 presidential losses even as popular votes were in their favor. They have witnessed the SC uphold one of those republican elections, and now they even feel they lost another voice in that body.

I don't know who sent those packages, what I know is that the person(s) who sent it is responsible for those horrendous acts (and they were horrendous whether the intent was to do actual harm, or political terror). That person should be found and prosecuted to the fullest extent, and any conspirators should be as well. But for society to heal, all sides need to put down the word knives, and let elections be where our battles are fought.[/quote]

Couldnt agree more with everything you said.This Country seems like it's headed for a civil war over politics,I'm 56 and I've never seen the Country so divided.I find myself despising some of my friends on Facebook because of their political views and their post.So much misinformation and untruths posted by both sides.
It used to be{at least to me}you didnt know your friends political views and you didnt really give a shit,now I know how everyone thinks.
Frankly I think social media is mostly to blame for dividing the country,thats my take on it anyway.Before Facebook I didnt know anybodys political beliefs except for a few coworkers and maybe a couple friends,now I know everyones and like I said I find myself despising some of my friends.

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Dump Facebook. Best thing I did about a year and a half ago.

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[quote=htownskinfan;1204290]Couldnt agree more with everything you said.This Country seems like it's headed for a civil war over politics,I'm 56 and I've never seen the Country so divided.I find myself despising some of my friends on Facebook because of their political views and their post.So much misinformation and untruths posted by both sides.
It used to be{at least to me}you didnt know your friends political views and you didnt really give a shit,now I know how everyone thinks.
Frankly I think social media is mostly to blame for dividing the country,thats my take on it anyway.Before Facebook I didnt know anybodys political beliefs except for a few coworkers and maybe a couple friends,now I know everyones and like I said I find myself despising some of my friends.[/quote]

Social media is making it worse...but I don’t despise anyone for their view.

Take G1 for example, he is opposed to everything I say which is fine. But I don’t despise him for that, but I do despise him for being a Giants fan.

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Not having Facebook is great. Quit about 6 or 7 years ago now.

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I have LinkedIn, don't see no politics on there lol. Or much of anything for that matter.