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joethiesmanfan 05-18-2010 09:14 PM

Re: Arizona's New Immigration Law
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;701888]and in most businesses, if the budget doesn't balance they have to cut back, or find a way to balance it.[/quote]

What business is that? wall street, the banks, Halliburton? Which business? Cut back on the workers an pocket the balance in the form of bonuses. This free market thing you talk about. If you saw you wouldn't recognize it.

mlmdub130 05-18-2010 09:35 PM

Re: Arizona's New Immigration Law
 
[quote=mlmpetert;701667]This guy is pretty sweet:

[url=http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisb11/we-are-better-than-that-12v9]We Are Better Than That! [VIDEO][/url][/quote]

wanna move to bama? i hate the tide, but i was sold when he pulled out the shotgun

CRedskinsRule 05-18-2010 10:18 PM

Re: Arizona's New Immigration Law
 
[quote=joethiesmanfan;701920]What business is that? wall street, the banks, Halliburton? Which business? Cut back on the workers an pocket the balance in the form of bonuses. This free market thing you talk about. If you saw you wouldn't recognize it.[/quote]

How about the thousands of small businesses in the United States, including the one I work at, that operates in a fiscally sound (you do know what that means right?) manner, employs 30 people (including naturalized citizens from many parts of the world) and form a backbone of our culture/economy?

joethiesmanfan 05-19-2010 12:08 AM

Re: Arizona's New Immigration Law
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;701942]How about the thousands of small businesses in the United States, including the one I work at, that operates in a fiscally sound (you do know what that means right?) manner, employs 30 people (including naturalized citizens from many parts of the world) and form a backbone of our culture/economy?[/quote]

got news for you. You trying to sell me on running a country of 300 million people by the same rules as a business with 30 employees? who's gonna give us our small business tax credits and cuts? Who is gonna provide our 300 million people with healthcare? ar you serious? Do you think you think this is a sane analogy? How long have you been smoking outta Ron Paul's meat pipe? Have any computer simulated models?

CRedskinsRule 05-19-2010 12:17 AM

Re: Arizona's New Immigration Law
 
I am not trying to sell you on anything. You have consistently demonstrated that you have a lot of ideology, and very little knowledge of the economic principles you talk about. I have no expectation that you would begin to understand how the United States economy was shaped from the beginning till now, and certainly wouldn't expect you to think outside of your framework mentality.

saden1 05-19-2010 12:44 AM

Re: Arizona's New Immigration Law
 
+1 for closing this thread.

Slingin Sammy 33 05-19-2010 11:40 AM

Re: Arizona's New Immigration Law
 
AZ strikes back at LA (lights out, especially with summer coming, not good)

[URL]http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/051810_arizonapdf.pdf[/URL]

Slingin Sammy 33 05-19-2010 11:41 AM

Re: Arizona's New Immigration Law
 
[quote=saden1;701979]+1 for closing this thread.[/quote]Who started this mess of a thread anyway? :)

joethiesmanfan 05-19-2010 12:28 PM

Re: Arizona's New Immigration Law
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;701976]I am not trying to sell you on anything. You have consistently demonstrated that you have a lot of ideology, and very little knowledge of the economic principles you talk about. I have no expectation that you would begin to understand how the United States economy was shaped from the beginning till now, and certainly wouldn't expect you to think outside of your framework mentality.[/quote]

You spout theories as if they are proven facts. People in this thread consistently say we are not a free market economy, why change to something new (free market theory)? You act like what you are talking about has been going on for some time when in fact it has never been done before. Ask Sammy.

joethiesmanfan 05-19-2010 12:33 PM

Re: Arizona's New Immigration Law
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;702072]AZ strikes back at LA (lights out, especially with summer coming, not good)

[URL]http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/051810_arizonapdf.pdf[/URL][/quote]

AZ is crazy for real. They say all this stuff and want all this attention. That would be like boycotting themselves. I am sure LA does not get power for free from AZ. LA has alot of people. Sounds like a nice wad of cash AZ would be throwing away. Boycotting themsleves. Now if they were providing something for free to LA and then take it away or had an alternative to them then this would work.

CRedskinsRule 05-19-2010 12:55 PM

Re: Arizona's New Immigration Law
 
[quote=joethiesmanfan;702088]You spout theories as if they are proven facts. People in this thread consistently say we are not a free market economy, why change to something new (free market theory)? You act like what you are talking about has been going on for some time when in fact it has never been done before. Ask Sammy.[/quote]

I honestly don't understand what you are saying. Many States already have some form of a balanced budget requirement. When I lived in Colo. every election there would be votes on allowing out of balance amendments and some would pass, some would fail, but it brought a level of accountability to the government. I didn't talk about free market theory - but a freeer market economy isn't something brand new either.

joethiesmanfan 05-19-2010 01:43 PM

Re: Arizona's New Immigration Law
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;702096]I honestly don't understand what you are saying. Many States already have some form of a balanced budget requirement. When I lived in Colo. every election there would be votes on allowing out of balance amendments and some would pass, some would fail, but it brought a level of accountability to the government. I didn't talk about free market theory - but a freeer market economy isn't something brand new either.[/quote]

OKAY! let's balance the budget, then Obama can't do any of his agenda. Would that make you happy? Or is that the real reason you worrying about spending money?

joethiesmanfan 05-19-2010 01:52 PM

Re: Arizona's New Immigration Law
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;702096]I honestly don't understand what you are saying. Many States already have some form of a balanced budget requirement. When I lived in Colo. every election there would be votes on allowing out of balance amendments and some would pass, some would fail, but it brought a level of accountability to the government. I didn't talk about free market theory - but a freeer market economy isn't something brand new either.[/quote]

OKAY! let's balance the budget, then Obama can't do any of his agenda. Would that make you happy? Or is that the real reason you worrying about spending money? Wasn't concerned about 300 billion dollar no bid Halliburton contracts were you? But if the Amercian people get anything your're outraged right? Be for real, Bush messed up, but that's not gonna stop anything.

CRedskinsRule 05-19-2010 01:52 PM

Re: Arizona's New Immigration Law
 
[quote=joethiesmanfan;702116]OKAY! let's balance the budget, then Obama can't do any of his agenda. Would that make you happy? Or is that the real reason you worrying about spending money?[/quote]

Well, I was saying it when the Republicans were in office too, so I don't think it is an agenda driven concern for me.

CRedskinsRule 05-19-2010 01:56 PM

Re: Arizona's New Immigration Law
 
[quote=joethiesmanfan;702123]OKAY! let's balance the budget, then Obama can't do any of his agenda. Would that make you happy? Or is that the real reason you worrying about spending money? Wasn't concerned about 300 billion dollar no bid Halliburton contracts were you? But if the Amercian people get anything your're outraged right? Be for real, Bush messed up, but that's not gonna stop anything.[/quote]

Back to you sticking in the framework of your mind. Don't falsely accuse me of beliefs you think I hold. The Republican machine has it's own money sluts and all of them on BOTH sides need to be pulled away from the drunken sailor that is the Federal budget right now. But as long as curmudgeons like you stick in the framework that all that is of one nature is wrong, the sailor will continue to work us all over in order to pay for his sluts.


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