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[quote=skins89moss;597273]Still go back to opening drive could not punch it in, came away with no points. Lions go 99 yards for a TD. Moss face mask penalty they over turned. Horton pass interference call do to know pass rush. These plays hurt us big time.[/quote]
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That first drive set the tone for the game IMHO. At that point the Lions believed they could win and we started doubting ourselves.

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Good article by Larry Weisman, at least he isn't the other Larry "aka" BALL SHINER. This guy shoots straight.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redskins_Break_Down_In_the_Motor_City_60635.jsp]Redskins Break Down In the Motor City[/url]

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Just got back from the game. OMG we are truly in deep trouble. We have no depth whatsoever I guess with regards to the O line. The O line itself sucked rocks. Why did Zorn have CP run about 5-10 yards east/west when he only had to go north/south 3 feet? Portis had only 3 decent runs the entire game. Why did JC lose 3-4 snaps, is his head in the game? Not too sold on our newbie WRs either as it was the Santana Moss show. Zorn better seriously consider putting Mitchell in to "spice" things up. WE are far from being a contender and the sad thing is we supposedly have way more talent than Norv had to work with over 10 years ago. Shit Norv for all his faults could have called a better game than Zorn. This franchise is screwed for the near term future.

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I think what upsets me the most is that I'm sure the Lions are going to go back to their losing ways (they're at Chicago next week), making us losing to them even worst.

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[quote=53Fan;597305]Right. Zorn obviously thought we could get one yard but if we couldn't, there was no way the Lions would go 99 yards on us. They would punt and we'd get the ball back. I don't think that's unreasonable, but apparently anything is possible with this defense.[/quote]

Its just another idiotic move by Mr. Pathetic aka Jim Zorn. He clearly let all the criticism from the last couple weeks get to him. You should just take the points and move on. He tried to make up for last weeks failures by punching it in, and it didnt happen. Real Head coaches dont let the media/fans influence the way they call a game. Mr. Pathetic needs to take his playbook and head back to Washington....state that is!

Blache should be shown the door as well, his schemes are absurd. There is alot more talent on this team than what they are showing. Our defense looks like crap, there isnt anymore pass rush this year even with Albert. Defensive backfield continuing to play 10 yards off the receivers, WTF? Our O-line is continually getting beat, S. Heyer should never be a starter in this league. And just like usual everyone just blames everything on JC. He is gonna end up somewhere else, and become a good QB.

Its a sad day for our beloved Skins....we are the laughing stock of the NFL.

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[quote=roth74va;597390]Its just another idiotic move by Mr. Pathetic aka Jim Zorn. He clearly let all the criticism from the last couple weeks get to him. You should just take the points and move on. He tried to make up for last weeks failures by punching it in, and it didnt happen. Real Head coaches dont let the media/fans influence the way they call a game. Mr. Pathetic needs to take his playbook and head back to Washington....state that is!

Blache should be shown the door as well, his schemes are absurd. There is alot more talent on this team than what they are showing. Our defense looks like crap, there isnt anymore pass rush this year even with Albert. Defensive backfield continuing to play 10 yards off the receivers, WTF? Our O-line is continually getting beat, S. Heyer should never be a starter in this league. And just like usual everyone just blames everything on JC. He is gonna end up somewhere else, and become a good QB.

Its a sad day for our beloved Skins....we are the laughing stock of the NFL.[/quote]

Well put!! I totally agree.

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;597200]It is time us fans start putting some pressure on Snyder and the organization. Enough of this sub par play year after year. We throw big money out and most of it is wasted. We pay their salaries we help keep this team afloat.[/quote]
Well I vote you first to stop posting about the skins and stop watching them and then maybe others will follow.

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[quote=firstdown;597485]Well I vote you first to stop posting about the skins and stop watching them and then maybe others will follow.[/quote]

and stop buying Skins merchandise.

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[quote=Ruhskins;597486]and stop buying Skins merchandise.[/quote]

and stop going to the games.

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On the bright side for me of course the Freshman team I coach is 3-0 but boy am I gonna hear it from the Kids tomorrow full of cowboy fans

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[quote=pg86;597703]On the bright side for me of course the [B]Freshman team I coach is 3-0[/B] but boy am I gonna hear it from the Kids tomorrow full of cowboy fans[/quote]

That could be good news....we need a few good players, that really have heart and want to WIN. See if they are willing to work for Vet Min. ;)

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[quote=Dirtbag359;597290]To add insult to injury the Packers scored 36 points on the Rams today.



Hmm well the Ravens beat the crap out of the Browns. I wonder what their secret is. Oh I know they drafted a bunch of Receivers.[/quote]

Yep, and I believe Aaron Rodgers has been sacked more than any other QB in the league. But wait, how is that possible? A QB can't possible overcome a scary widdle pass rush, can he? I mean Brees was getting harassed all day today and he still put up 27 points (probably a season low for them). And didn't Big Ben win the Super Bowl last year as the most sacked QB in the league and Cassell was right behind him with his 11-5 record.

As for the Ravens, I'm sure their Defense scored at least half of their TDs, if not all of them. They have an average QB that isn't asked to do anything but throw TDs and win games. Unlike our QB who has to kick field goals, rush opposing QBs, mix the Gatorade and distribute towels in the locker room. The Ravens would be putting up 60 a game with Campbell as their QB.

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[quote=firstdown;597485]Well I vote you first to stop posting about the skins and stop watching them and then maybe others will follow.[/quote]

[quote=Ruhskins;597486]and stop buying Skins merchandise.[/quote]

[quote=DynamiteRave;597518]and stop going to the games.[/quote]

It's too late for any of that.

The tickets have already been sold off of the offseason hype. Nothing we can do this year.

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[quote=44Deezel;597091]Hot-ass Kelli Johnson with a good stat[/quote]

Since I no longer live in town and can't see the games, it occurs to me that Hot-ass Kelli Johnson is about the only thing I'm really missing.

Maybe rather than lamenting the trainwreck of a season each gameday, everyone should just post screencaps of Johnson & Czarniak.

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[quote=44Deezel;597765]Yep, and I believe Aaron Rodgers has been sacked more than any other QB in the league. But wait, how is that possible? A QB can't possible overcome a scary widdle pass rush, can he? I mean Brees was getting harassed all day today and he still put up 27 points (probably a season low for them). And didn't Big Ben win the Super Bowl last year as the most sacked QB in the league and Cassell was right behind him with his 11-5 record.

As for the Ravens, I'm sure their Defense scored at least half of their TDs, if not all of them. They have an average QB that isn't asked to do anything but throw TDs and win games. Unlike our QB who has to kick field goals, rush opposing QBs, mix the Gatorade and distribute towels in the locker room. The Ravens would be putting up 60 a game with Campbell as their QB.[/quote]

What are you getting at?? :)

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[quote=dgack;597787]Since I no longer live in town and can't see the games, it occurs to me that Hot-ass Kelli Johnson is about the only thing I'm really missing.

Maybe rather than lamenting the trainwreck of a season each gameday, everyone should just post screencaps of Johnson & Czarniak.[/quote]

She's still a hottie for sure. She was at a lost for words today. It was possibly the first time I've seen a reporter sort of let their affection for the team show. She was like, guys I'm speechless and it was written all over her face.

So the first person she interviews - Gregg Blache. He walks up wearing an all black suit, black shirt, and a silver neck tie. Like he had just come from a funeral. I thought it was very fitting actually

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Sitting here watching the Colts. they had the ball 15 min their last game and still won. Now its the 2nd qtr and they have already scored 21 pts. sigh must be nice to use first round picks on a QB and wr's and have them play at such a high level each yr. doesnt their Oline start 2 young OG's?

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I just text my bud down here (fellow skins fan) told him Ill be a colts fan till the skins fix he whole damnproblem here in dc. Ive been physically sick all day since the first half of our game. And the abbismal 4th quarter.
The colts do things the right way. Good FO, and owner who just flys all over the country chomping on pain medication stying out of football all together except for on Sundays where he gets to sit up in the owners box and gloat about how his football team has won the most games in the regular season the lasts 10 years and wose fans get to gloat about how good there team is... yeah they may only have on superbowl but they could win it every year realistically. we go off hype and continue to hope and pray that this is our year. even though we have had no success other than one wildcard playoff win in 10 fucking years and 0 division titles. We are the worst team in the east. Ugg I fucking hate it... ok ok rant ended... I feel better.. Go SKins!

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;597807][B]Sitting here watching the Colts[/B]. they had the ball 15 min their last game and still won. Now its the 2nd qtr and they have already scored 21 pts. sigh must be nice to use first round picks on a [B]QB[/B] and wr's and have them play at such a high level each yr. doesnt their Oline start 2 young OG's?[/quote]

Wrong thread...but they do have the mighty Peyton! What do you expect? He's the best in the biz!

Back to the thread. Damn that Zorn/Soup combo suck! Tomorrow the sun will still shine however....I hope?

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Rex Ryan just claimed the jets will win the superbowl this year... very suttlely but thats the jiste of what he said

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Jansen on game:

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/jansen-happy-to-be-home----and.html#more]Redskins Insider - Jansen Happy to Be Home -- and With a Win[/url]

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;597841]Jansen on game:

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/jansen-happy-to-be-home----and.html#more"]Redskins Insider - Jansen Happy to Be Home -- and With a Win[/URL][/quote]

UUUGGGHHH!!!!!...all players who leave us end up winning their heads up game against us the next year...makes me sick.

Deion won against us when he went to play with Baltimore, Bailey with the Broncos, LaVarr with the Giants...DAMN!!!...makes me SICK!

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[quote=Skinny Tee;597853]UUUGGGHHH!!!!!...all players who leave us end up winning their heads up game against us the next year...makes me sick.

Deion won against us when he went to play with Baltimore, Bailey with the Broncos, LaVarr with the Giants...DAMN!!!...makes me SICK![/quote]

Can't argue your point. Hated seeing that bastard happy TODAY! All we had to do was show up to play 60 minutes of football...but no....thats almost like having to do your job!

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[quote=drew54;596854]Definitely bad calls, but play like a professional team and kick field goals when your in range, and take the penalties when they are there. That is on Zorn. When you start to get a head of steam running the ball, keep with it.

Terrible coaching and execution. Call a spade a spade. Take off the Rose colored glasses.[/quote]

Hey Zorn went for it on 4th down and the O-Line got stuffed. I can't blame Zorn for having confidence to go for it. Our O-Line is soft as marshmellows. The penalty call pushed the Lions to 3rd and 23 we let Mathew Stafford run 23 yards for the 1st down. Thats just fukd up defense. Zorn is responsible for the team but his coaches better get the fire lit under our players asses or everyone will be looking for a new job.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;597221]Jansen is so freakin happy.......:doh:[/quote]

Fuk Jansen his ass was on the Sideline cheerleading. He collecting a check for the Lions not the Redskins. The Lions still suck and we will win more games than them.

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[quote=skins89moss;597920]Fuk Jansen his ass was on the Sideline cheerleading. He collecting a check for the Lions not the Redskins. The Lions still suck and we will win more games than them.[/quote]

Agreed...that's what kills me (and I'll say it again)...the Lions will go back to their losing ways. I wish they could win so i could feel better about this loss, but they won't.

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;597201]At one point in the game the Lions were 9-11 on 3rd down conversions. How the hell you let Stafford run for a 20 yard gain on 3rd and 13 or whatever it was? Are our linebackers that slow? Is he that fast? I dont think so.

That PI on Horton was horrible. The facemask pentaly should have sticked and I saw more PI on the lions and offsides that weren't called. Saying that the defense still sucked and couldn't stop ish!![/quote]

I agree. We have no pass rush which put pressure on our secondary. The Lions had all day to throw the ball.

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[quote=53Fan;597225]I absolutely agree. How is it that so much attention (AH, Orakpo, resigning Hall, supplementary draft-Jarmon) is given to the defense, and Blache continually gets a pass? We don't draft o-linemen and everybody gets on Zorn, some with good reason, some is BS. Portis couldn't get 1 yard for the TD? And Blache with all this talent can't get off the F'in field and makes a rookie QB look like all-pro.[/quote]

Blache has such a vanilla defense that a Rookie QB toasted our asses. Change the DC and let Jerry Gray get a shot.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;597853]UUUGGGHHH!!!!!...all players who leave us end up winning their heads up game against us the next year...makes me sick.

Deion won against us when he went to play with Baltimore, Bailey with the Broncos, LaVarr with the Giants...DAMN!!!...makes me SICK![/quote]\

and when Campbell is run out of town he will do the same thing. Mark my words. As unrealistic as some of you might think that is. We will be even sicker than when those guys won when we played them after they left.

If we draft or sign a QB next year. He better be sure fire. If not he will be run out of town also.

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While we are calling for coaches to get fired you can also put JOE BUGLE in there as well. He is the O-Line coach and our O-Line is awful. He has not groomed any young lineman since he has returned with the Gibbs. He is not getting a free pass in my book because we can't run in the red zone. Zorn stop trying to run the ball in the Red Zone because the last 2 games we have been Stuffed ( Rams/Lions). O-Line = Marshmellows
We can't run block.

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Why don't our smart coaching staff please give Anthony Alridge a chance to get into the offense. He would be good to get in space on screens and passes out of the back field. Damn we need him to strech the field.

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;597955] and when Campbell is run out of town he will do the same thing. Mark my words. As unrealistic as some of you might think that is. [/quote]

I'm pretty confident in this as well. The only catch is going to be, will he go to a team where he gets to play right away and has some continuity with the offense.

There have only been a few QB's who have left town for sunnier shores who I really despised (Shuler and Schroeder, off the top of my head). Some, like Ramsey, I was fairly indifferent about.

I'll be rooting for Soup pretty much wherever he goes, just like I did Stan the Man when he led the Bolts to the Super Bowl. It's probably going to be best to have a backup team to root for next season anyway (another 1994 parallel!)

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[quote=dgack;597995]I'm pretty confident in this as well. The only catch is going to be, will he go to a team where he gets to play right away and has some continuity with the offense.

There have only been a few QB's who have left town for sunnier shores who I really despised (Shuler and Schroeder, off the top of my head). Some, like Ramsey, I was fairly indifferent about.

I'll be rooting for Soup pretty much wherever he goes, just like I did Stan the Man when he led the Bolts to the Super Bowl. It's probably going to be best to have a backup team to root for next season anyway (another 1994 parallel!)[/quote]

Something tells me he is going to end up in Denver Tampa Bay Jacksonville or Carolina. On the rate he is going now he is goign to throw over 4,000 yards. But hey he the worse QB we ever had so lets ship him out of town (end sarcasm). Just better hope whomever we pick up doesn't flop. or it will be the same thing over again. Let's go back to some of our past QBs then put thing in perspective. Would you like to have Tony Banks, Jeff George, Danny Weurfel, Mark Brunell, Ramsey, Shane Mathews, Shuler, Frerotte, etc. Should I keep going?????

I'll honestly be happy for him when he leaves.

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[quote=skins89moss;597967]Why don't our smart coaching staff please give Anthony Alridge a chance to get into the offense. He would be good to get in space on screens and passes out of the back field. Damn we need him to strech the field.[/quote]

He was made active this game. I dont know why he didn't play. Guess they dont have any confidence in him either.

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Great article by Boswell today:


[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/27/AR2009092703257.html?sid=ST2009092703456]washingtonpost.com[/url]

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[quote=skins89moss;597899]Hey Zorn went for it on 4th down and the O-Line got stuffed. I can't blame Zorn for having confidence to go for it. Our O-Line is soft as marshmellows. The penalty call pushed the Lions to 3rd and 23 we let Mathew Stafford run 23 yards for the 1st down. Thats just fukd up defense. Zorn is responsible for the team but his coaches better get the fire lit under our players asses or everyone will be looking for a new job.[/quote]

It was a run. A run in which the used the goal line offense bunching everyone up. Portis got stuffed. Does this team not take notes from other teams and what they do? Dallas had success spreading out their offense against the Giants. Spread the damn defense out and either play action pass or run the ball but stop the bunch formation. It's not working.

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[quote=GMScud;598016]Great article by Boswell today:


[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/27/AR2009092703257.html?sid=ST2009092703456"]washingtonpost.com[/URL][/quote]Well other than the fact that he's apparently unaware of the percentages:

[quote] In the first quarter, most coaches go by percentages, not prophecy.
[/quote]

I thought he raises some great points, as usual.

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[quote=Ruhskins;597923]Agreed...that's what kills me (and I'll say it again)...the Lions will go back to their losing ways. I wish they could win so i could feel better about this loss, but they won't.[/quote]

Well if it makes you feel any better, Detroit is not the worst team in the NFL this year. Thanks to the magic of NFL shortcuts I have been able to watch them play this year (and was, of course, subjected to the game yesterday). Peterson broke them off last week, but they looked competitive against Minnesota and much better than Washington did against St. Louis. Once Stafford gains consistency they will be a competitive franchise on a week-to-week basis. Maybe not this year, but they are headed in the right direction. Right now St. Louis, Kansas City, Tampa Bay, Cleveland, and Washington are all worse than Detroit. Luckily we play two of those teams head-up so it will be a fair competition for that first overall pick.

[quote=GMScud;598016]Great article by Boswell today:


[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/27/AR2009092703257.html?sid=ST2009092703456"]washingtonpost.com[/URL][/quote]

No kidding. I'd like to punch the next person who talks about how much "talent" the Redskins have.

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[quote=dmvskinzfan08;598008]Something tells me he is going to end up in Denver Tampa Bay Jacksonville or Carolina. On the rate he is going now he is goign to throw over 4,000 yards. But hey he the worse QB we ever had so lets ship him out of town (end sarcasm). Just better hope whomever we pick up doesn't flop. or it will be the same thing over again. Let's go back to some of our past QBs then put thing in perspective. Would you like to have Tony Banks, Jeff George, Danny Weurfel, Mark Brunell, Ramsey, Shane Mathews, Shuler, Frerotte, etc. Should I keep going?????

I'll honestly be happy for him when he leaves.[/quote]

I'm not hugh on JC but he has been looking better other then scoring. He could end up being one of our bright spots this year. We then offer him a big deal then he goes back into suck mode.

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[quote=firstdown;598353]I'm not hugh on JC but he has been looking better other then scoring. He could end up being one of our bright spots this year. We then offer him a big deal then he goes back into suck mode.[/quote]

There is no way the FO makes JC a big offer this season unless he puts up gaudy numbers by the end of the season (and that would probably mean we're getting blown out, based on the conservatism of Zorn's playcalling).

No, Jason is auditioning for a job elsewhere at this point. Resigning JC would provide one less patsy for Snyder to heap blame on and would make it harder to deny that the lack of a real GM is a huge part of the problem. Let the QB go along with the coach(es) and you've got a nice cadre of fall guys to act as meat shields from all the offseason criticism.