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Larry Johnson really? Wow. I wouldn't mind that. Dude can be a bit of a tool though.

Seemingly every hour since yesterday morning I've heard "Willie Parker is about to sign with the Redskins"

I've decided not to believe it anymore until/unless it actually happens

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[quote=SmootSmack;672034]Larry Johnson really? Wow. I wouldn't mind that. Dude can be a bit of a tool though.

Seemingly every hour since yesterday morning I've heard "Willie Parker is about to sign with the Redskins"

I've decided not to believe it anymore until/unless it actually happens[/quote]

I thought we should have jumped all over LJ immediately after the Chiefs released him.

And yes, I would rather have him over Fast Willie Parker.

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[quote=12thMan;672005]I wouldn't be upset if we picked Bradford, but I think we should use the pick on an offensive lineman with our first pick.

I've been fairly critical of Jason Campbell. Not over the top, but some. Honestly I think this is the first time Campbell has played for a bonafide, competent coaching staff since he's been a Redskin. Even when Gibbs was here, the scheme evolved and was somewhat disjointed. The same under Zorn, which turned out to be an experiment. I'm hoping we'll see Campbell actually build on some of his successes from last year.[/quote]

i agree with you 100%. If nothing else, Campbell is competent. If there were a sure-fire bonafide stud of a QB in this years draft, then i'd be on board with drafting Bradford. Unfortunately, there's not. This team needs alot of improvement from the QB position but it needs even more from the LT position. I simply cant understand any argument for drafting a player at a lesser need who has a 50/50 or greater probability of being a bust vs. drafting a can't miss LT prospect at the teams greatest position of need. I simply can't. hopefully, we won't be drafting this high again for a long, long time. lets not screw it up.

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Campbell better hope he has a good o-line next year, because Green Bay, Minnesota, Indy, and Houston(Mario Williams vs. scrub LT if we don't draft one, anyone?) can all bring it and I wouldn't discount Tennessee either and don't even get started with the teams in the division, because it's common knowledge that they...can..kill...QBs.

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I would take a chance on Brady, especially with Shanahan as our coach.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4982407]Sources: Cleveland Browns looking to trade Brady Quinn, add another quarterback - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;672034]Larry Johnson really? Wow. I wouldn't mind that. Dude can be a bit of a tool though.

Seemingly every hour since yesterday morning I've heard "Willie Parker is about to sign with the Redskins"

I've decided not to believe it anymore until/unless it actually happens[/quote]

I'm with you SS. I live on ESPN Insider and all I hear is Parker and Antonio Bryant. Would you rahter have Parker or Johnson. In my opinion I want Parker. I just don't like Johnson's attitude personally.

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Sam Bradford is Brilliant!!

[url=http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/35799570/ns/sports-player_news/]Report: Sam Bradford scored 36 on Wonderlic - NFL- nbcsports.msnbc.com[/url]

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So now they're talking about Brady Quinn will be dealt soon - coming to D.C. maybe? Hmmm...

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[quote=12thMan;672064]So now they're talking about Brady Quinn will be dealt soon - coming to D.C. maybe? Hmmm...[/quote]

I have heard so many rumors it is ridiculous. Antonio Bryant, now Quinn, LJ, Paker etc.

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Well I know I have (and I think others as well) talked about the fact that Shahanan will undoubtedly make one or two decisions this spring that will really make you scratch your head. That's what he does. He loves to take risks.

Maybe LJ is that guy. Talent wise I'll take him any day of the week over Willie Parker. If I'm looking for a team guy who will be a positive influence then I'll take Parker. Or...I wait until draft day, trade down, and get both talent and leadership with CJ Spiller! :)

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[quote=12thMan;672064]So now they're talking about Brady Quinn will be dealt soon - coming to D.C. maybe? Hmmm...[/quote]

Quinn rumors have been going on for a while. Quinn to DC was one option between the Redskins and Browns (among a couple of others) that was picking up some steam last week but seemingly died over the weekend.

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So we were going to trade Quinn for Campbell? who would have been giving up a pick? I sure hope it would have been them.

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[quote=SmootSmack;672073]Well I know I have (and I think others as well) talked about the fact that Shahanan will undoubtedly make one or two decisions this spring that will really make you scratch your head. [B]That's what he does. He loves to take risks. [/B]
[/quote]

Actually with the way this off-season has shaped up so far I'd say this plan is more Bruce then it is Shanahan. Maybe the boys on NFL Network were right and they're preparing for the cap to come back as well as a deeper free agent class next year.

However the statements from Bruce saying that they were comfortable with either scenario (Capped or Uncapped) is so much clearer now. I assumed they had two different plans, one where they spend like crazy and another where they play it like they are now. Turns out it was the same plan all along.

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;672077]So we were going to trade Quinn for Campbell? who would have been giving up a pick? I sure hope it would have been them.[/quote]

Would much rather have a scenario where Campbell and Quinn compete. However is Quinn the type of QB Shanahan would like to work with?

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It wouldn't have been a straight up one for one trade

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[quote=SmootSmack;672082]It wouldn't have been a straight up one for one trade[/quote]

I just vomitted a little.

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[quote=SmootSmack;672073]Well I know I have (and I think others as well) talked about the fact that[B] Shahanan will undoubtedly make one or two decisions this spring that will really make you scratch your head. That's what he does. He loves to take risks. [/B]

Maybe LJ is that guy. Talent wise I'll take him any day of the week over Willie Parker. If I'm looking for a team guy who will be a positive influence then I'll take Parker. Or...I wait until draft day, trade down, and get both talent and leadership with CJ Spiller! :)[/quote]

*cough* Maurice Clarett in the 3rd round *cough*

I would also take LJ over Parker.

As far as Brady Quinn, with what has been going on in Cleveland since he got there, he really hasn't had a chance to succeed. But I don't want to give up anything to get him. I'd rather use a draft pick on a QB than give up players and/or picks for Quinn.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;672081]Actually with the way this off-season has shaped up so far I'd say this plan is more Bruce then it is Shanahan. Maybe the boys on NFL Network were right and they're preparing for the cap to come back as well as a deeper free agent class next year.

However the statements from Bruce saying that they were comfortable with either scenario (Capped or Uncapped) is so much clearer now. I assumed they had two different plans, one where they spend like crazy and another where they play it like they are now. Turns out it was the same plan all along.
[/quote]

Definitely the same plan. Though it's safe to say Allen and Shahanan are working closely together on this plan.

As for Quinn, I believe that Quinn was being forced upon the Redskins more than the Redskins were asking for Quinn. But I don't know the specifics really. I only know the proposed deals that were offered not the reasoning behind them

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[quote=Player_HTTR;672084]I just vomitted a little.[/quote]

??? Why?

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Love the signing of ...Maake Kemoeatu DT signs 2yr $7million deal

Sounds like a good idea to bring in Quinn to push Campbell, it would need to be a low draft pick. It would also free up the #4 pick to go after Russell Okung...

Larry Jhonson is also a better compliment to Portis, we need a short yardage power back.

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If healthy I would definitely take Parker over LJ. At this point LJ is a 3 yards and a cloud of dust runner. I like the idea of having a home run hitter as a change of pace guy in the backfield. Spiller would be insane.

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[quote=tdSKINS1;672028]Larry Johnson according to Schefter is visitining the Redskins tommorow.[/quote]
Yeah just saw that it was confirmed on ESPN.COM

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4982457]Washington Redskins to visit with Larry Johnson, source says - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;672092]If healthy I would definitely take Parker over LJ. At this point LJ is a 3 yards and a cloud of dust runner. I like the idea of having a home run hitter as a change of pace guy in the backfield. Spiller would be insane.[/quote]

I don't think Parker is nearly the home run hitter he was 4 or 5 years ago. As far as being an NFL RB, all Parker ever really had was speed. Not much of a blocker or a receiver, never seemed to have great vision either.

And yeah, I would LOVE to see Spiller in B&G.

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[quote=SmootSmack;672090]??? Why?[/quote]

I think he wants to get rid of Campbell no matter what.

Getting back to Quinn though, I think it's safe to say that right now I'd be very uncomfortable with him as our best option as a starting QB.

[quote]2009 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 65 | Key

Comment: He has a strong, well-defined body and good overall strength, but [B]his arm strength is just average [/B]and he doesn't drive the ball deep downfield. Quinn has the makeup of a smart, game-managing quarterback, but that has yet to be proven at this point. [B]He isn't enough of a risk-taker at this point and can be reluctant to let the deep ball fly.[/B] What is disturbing is [B]that Quinn really isn't very accurate.[/B] He also doesn't move within the pocket all that well, despite being an above-average athlete. But, when the play breaks down, he can scramble to buy time or get yardage as a ball carrier. The jury is still out on this player, but there certainly is upside here. [/quote]

Personally I feel like Clausen is a much better prospect especially given that Clausen was much more willing to let the deep ball fly. On top of that Clausen was much more accurate completing 68% of his passes, comparatively Quinn completed 61% of his passes his senior year and 64% his junior year. Only advantage Quinn has over Clausen right now is that we can get him on the cheap, however I would still much rather get Bradford above all else. Heres to hoping the Rams trade for Michael Vick.

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[quote=GMScud;672094][B]I don't think Parker is nearly the home run hitter he was 4 or 5 years ago[/B]. As far as being an NFL RB, all Parker ever really had was speed. Not much of a blocker or a receiver, never seemed to have great vision either.

And yeah, I would LOVE to see Spiller in B&G.[/quote]

Probably not but he's still got more speed than LJ.

Hell, let's just sign them both and have a 3 headed monster!

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[quote=SmootSmack;672090]??? Why?[/quote]

I am not a huge JC fan, but I would take him over Quinn any Sunday. It's just a gut feeling about him, but to be nice, I dislike Quinn as a football player. There is no trade scenario I could see taking him and dumping JC.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;672095]I think he wants to get rid of Campbell no matter what.[/quote]

To add to my reply to Smoot, there is a trade scenario I would take but it would involve a first round pick coming this way and nothing but Campbell going theirs.

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[quote=Player_HTTR;672099]I am not a huge JC fan, but I would take him over Quinn any Sunday. It's just a gut feeling about him, but to be nice, I dislike Quinn as a football player. There is no trade scenario I could see taking him and dumping JC.[/quote]

I see. Your response had me thinking you were upset that it wasn't a one for one deal. Like you were hoping that had gone through

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[quote=Mattyk;672096]Probably not but he's still got more speed than LJ.

Hell, [B]let's just sign them both[/B] and have a 3 headed monster![/quote]

Why not? LJ can be the short-yardage power back

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[quote=Mattyk;672096]Probably not but he's still got more speed than LJ.

Hell, let's just sign them both and have a 3 headed monster![/quote]

Why not, it would be a shrewd move regardless. From a perceived value perspective all three are at the bottom so they all have something to play for. We would be getting LJ and Parker with small contracts.

Competition brings out the best in players.

I still think a tailback should be drafted.

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I totally forgot about LJ being on the market...I was against bringing him here when he was cut...more open now especially when whats left is Slow Willie and Brian Concussbrook...LT I would be up in the air, but refer LJ to whats left.........

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LJ is still good, just remember how he pushed us around last year. That is not an easy task, he made it look easy. He stil got something in teh tank. I like the three monster idea though. Ports and any two of the other 4 vets.

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I'm not a fan of Quinn at all, I really hope that doesn't happen. I think he's total garbage, but if Shanahan sees something I would give him the benefit of the doubt... for a little while at least.

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My only concern about LJ, is that he was basically KC's Clinton Portis. They put a lot of mileage on him. However, he did show that he had some gas left in the tank in Cincy, so who knows. I think I would pick Parker over LJ, just because I feel LJ and Portis seem to be the same type of back.

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[quote=Mattyk;672119]I'm not a fan of Quinn at all, I really hope that doesn't happen. I think he's total garbage, but if Shanahan sees something I would give him the benefit of the doubt... for a little while at least.[/quote]

I wouldn't worry about it. I really don't think Quinn will be here in any important capacity

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;672117][B]LJ is still good, just remember how he pushed us around last year. That is not an easy task, he made it look easy.[/B] He stil got something in teh tank. I like the three monster idea though. Ports and any two of the other 4 vets.[/quote]

23 carries for 83 yards?

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[quote=SmootSmack;672089]I only know the proposed deals that were offered not the reasoning behind them[/quote]

can you tell us what the proposed deals were? it would be interesting to know what value the Redskins and/or other teams assign to Jason Campbell.

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Marlin Jackson signs with Eagles, according to Schefter.

Um...I don't remember what the rumors were. Campbell for a 3rd and a 4th? Campbell for Quinn and a 3rd? Something like that I think. Matty, do you remember?

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[quote=Ruhskins;672121]My only concern about LJ, is that he was basically KC's Clinton Portis. They put a lot of mileage on him. However, he did show that he had some gas left in the tank in Cincy, so who knows. I think I would pick Parker over LJ, just because I feel LJ and Portis seem to be the same type of back.[/quote]


LJ has 700 less carries that CP. He has mileage but you are right about the glimpses in Cincy. He averaged 4.4 for them.

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[quote=SmootSmack;672131]Marlin Jackson signs with Eagles, according to Schefter.

Um...I don't remember what the rumors were. Campbell for a 3rd and a 4th? Campbell for Quinn and a 3rd? Something like that I think. Matty, do you remember?[/quote]

The rumors were JC to Cleveland for a 3rd and 4th, or Quinn and 4th, or Quinn and a 3rd.

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[quote=Mattyk;672136]The rumors were JC to Cleveland for a 3rd and 4th, or Quinn and 4th, or Quinn and a 3rd.[/quote]

I'm not a Quinn fan at all, but Id have been fine with just about any of those deals if
1) Shanahan thought he could do as good or a better job with Quinn than Campbell, or
2) Campbell is definitely has no chance to be with the team in the long-term.

If Campbell's only going to be here one more year, we might as well move him now and get something in return.