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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1145024]Trump isn't presidential material...his statement today was beyond asinine.[/QUOTE]



He is not presidential material for sooooo many other reasons also. But yeah today ranks rite up there.

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[quote=MTK;1145019]Unreal what you guys are willing to look the other way on.

[B]Too bad we can't discuss things without it coming down to "well what about your guy" BS.[/B]

I'm not pro Hilary as much as I'm anti Trump. I think he's flat out dangerous. Hilary doesn't even have to blow smoke, Trump creates plenty on his own. That's what's scary, he's so brazen and doesn't know when to shut up.[/quote]

You should try taking your own advice........
and maybe we could

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[quote=punch it in;1145026]He is not presidential material for sooooo many other reasons also. But yeah today ranks rite up there.[/quote]

Well what he says and his basic positions...Its really amazing he is the nominee. Its fascinating actually. If he presented his positions in a more coherent and thought out ways, it would resonate better with folks:

Platform: Immigration.

What he should be saying and how he should framing his argument: "Illegal Immigration cost the taxpayers $____ per year and drains federal and state resources to the point its a burden. The border is a dangerous place...guns, drugs, etc cross daily. Our borders are not secure. Human trafficking is a world wide epidemic and the US/Mexico border is one of the top places in the world where this activity occurs. We must need to partner not only with Mexico but all of central America to come to a resolution for a more effective immigration policy which could stymie the illegal crossings into the country. Terrorism threat is directly tied with illegal immigration into this country."

His framed talking points about illegal immigration:

Mexicans are criminals, rapists, etc. We will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it. We need to secure our border. We need to ban all muslims from coming into this country.



The crazy thing is, if he went with the first paragraph, he wouldn't be the nominee. His attraction is the classic strong man.

First off, Trump isn't a dumb guy. He is extremely intelligent and he knows what got him to this point. Even though most think the off cuff remarks makes him "more like you and me" and not a typical politician...I don't believe that for a second. I think he and advisors are scripting most of these controversial comments. Its working...bad press is good press. Its all about keeping his name in the news cycle and getting folks to constantly talk about him.

Just like this Russian comment...the Democratic convention had recovered from the DNC emails and was starting to resonate with message. Trump comes out and steals thunder with another outrageous comment. BRILLANT

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[QUOTE=Hog1;1145028]You should try taking your own advice........

and maybe we could[/QUOTE]


What do you want to discuss? I'll gladly answer questions rather than deflecting and beating around the bush. So what do you think about this Russia stuff? No big deal?

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[quote=Chico23231;1145030]Well what he says and his basic positions...Its really amazing he is the nominee. Its fascinating actually. If he presented his positions in a more coherent and thought out ways, it would resonate better with folks:

Platform: Immigration.

What he should be saying and how he should framing his argument: "Illegal Immigration cost the taxpayers $____ per year and drains federal and state resources to the point its a burden. The border is a dangerous place...guns, drugs, etc cross daily. Our borders are not secure. Human trafficking is a world wide epidemic and the US/Mexico border is one of the top places in the world where this activity occurs. We must need to partner not only with Mexico but all of central America to come to a resolution for a more effective immigration policy which could stymie the illegal crossings into the country. Terrorism threat is directly tied with illegal immigration into this country."

His framed talking points about illegal immigration:

Mexicans are criminals, rapists, etc. We will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it. We need to secure our border. We need to ban all muslims from coming into this country.



The crazy thing is, if he went with the first paragraph, he wouldn't be the nominee. His attraction is the classic strong man.

[B]First off, Trump isn't a dumb guy. He is extremely intelligent and he knows what got him to this point. Even though most think the off cuff remarks makes him "more like you and me" and not a typical politician...I don't believe that for a second. I think he and advisors are scripting most of these controversial comments. Its working...bad press is good press. Its all about keeping his name in the news cycle and getting folks to constantly talk about him.

Just like this Russian comment...the Democratic convention had recovered from the DNC emails and was starting to resonate with message. Trump comes out and steals thunder with another outrageous comment. BRILLANT[/B][/quote]
Yup....
He has go to to be driving the Dnc...F..n crazy

Re: Republican nominee for President
 

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1145030]Well what he says and his basic positions...Its really amazing he is the nominee. Its fascinating actually. If he presented his positions in a more coherent and thought out ways, it would resonate better with folks:



Platform: Immigration.



What he should be saying and how he should framing his argument: "Illegal Immigration cost the taxpayers $____ per year and drains federal and state resources to the point its a burden. The border is a dangerous place...guns, drugs, etc cross daily. Our borders are not secure. Human trafficking is a world wide epidemic and the US/Mexico border is one of the top places in the world where this activity occurs. We must need to partner not only with Mexico but all of central America to come to a resolution for a more effective immigration policy which could stymie the illegal crossings into the country. Terrorism threat is directly tied with illegal immigration into this country."



His framed talking points about illegal immigration:



Mexicans are criminals, rapists, etc. We will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it. We need to secure our border. We need to ban all muslims from coming into this country.







The crazy thing is, if he went with the first paragraph, he wouldn't be the nominee. His attraction is the classic strong man.



First off, Trump isn't a dumb guy. He is extremely intelligent and he knows what got him to this point. Even though most think the off cuff remarks makes him "more like you and me" and not a typical politician...I don't believe that for a second. I think he and advisors are scripting most of these controversial comments. Its working...bad press is good press. Its all about keeping his name in the news cycle and getting folks to constantly talk about him.



Just like this Russian comment...the Democratic convention had recovered from the DNC emails and was starting to resonate with message. Trump comes out and steals thunder with another outrageous comment. BRILLANT[/QUOTE]



I agree he is way off on his demeanor and choice of words. But that is what is so dangerous.
What is truly amazing is that it is currently resonating perfectly with alot of folks.
Im assuming that u are now voting for Hillary and have joined the Jedi's?

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His whole demeanor and "strong man" role reminds me of Hitler coming into power. I keep having nightmares of him becoming POTUS and throwing people in jail for disagreeing with him. Like once he becomes POTUS he is going to round Hillary and all her supporters up and be like I dont give a shit about your freedom of anything or the past Im the man now and "you're fired" will become "your arrested!"

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[quote=punch it in;1145051]I agree he is way off on his demeanor and choice of words. But that is what is so dangerous.
What is truly amazing is that it is currently resonating perfectly with alot of folks.
Im assuming that u are now voting for Hillary and have joined the Jedi's?[/quote]

Paaaaaa HAhahahhahaahahah



Im voting for Gary Johnson because he is the best candidate with the best approach for the job.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1145053]Paaaaaa HAhahahhahaahahah







Im voting for Gary Johnson because he is the best candidate with the best approach for the job.[/QUOTE]



Perfect. I meant to include that in choices. I will be voting for him too only because NJ isnt a swing state. Dont give a crap C Red about that is lame - lol. Worst possible scenario imo is Trump winning.

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A Post reporter was banned from a Trump-Pence rally yesterday. That should frighten you. - The Washington Post - [url]www.washingtonpost.com[/url]
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/28/a-washington-post-reporter-was-banned-from-a-trump-pence-rally-yesterday-that-should-frighten-you/?campaign_id=A100&campaign_type=Email[/url]

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Last time I went 3rd party fuckin W got elected. Just vote Nader they said, what can happen?

Republican nominee for President
 

[QUOTE=MTK;1145057]Last time I went 3rd party fuckin W got elected. Just vote Nader they said, what can happen?[/QUOTE]



Exactly. Lol. The problem is when people say "hey just do your part and do not litter - ok every little bit helps. Maybe you wont cure the worlds environmental problems but its a small step in the right direction and yes every little bit counts.
In an election you simply do not have the luxury of making your vote count. It is not if you cant beat them join them.
The cigarette you didnt throw out of your car window counts, but your vote (in a swing state) can easily bite you in the ass.
Im trying to stop C Reds response before it happens. Haha.

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[quote=punch it in;1145054]Perfect. I meant to include that in choices. I will be voting for him too only because NJ isnt a swing state. Dont give a crap C Red about that is lame - lol. Worst possible scenario imo is Trump winning.[/quote]

Woah Maybe I misspoke, or said it the wrong way. I would love everyone to be voting for the Liberterian party

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1145060]Woah Maybe I misspoke, or said it the wrong way. I would love everyone to be voting for the Liberterian party[/QUOTE]



Yes i realize that but u called me out for voting for Hillary instead because voting third party in certain states helps Trump. Just saying that if my number one priority is keeping Trump out than i dont have that choice.

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[quote=MTK;1145057]Last time I went 3rd party fuckin W got elected. Just vote Nader they said, what can happen?[/quote]

And this year it's so bad if it was Trump vs. W, I'd go W.

I'd seriously consider a third party if Trump wasn't such a horrific option. I strongly dislike Hillary, but really like Tim Kaine. More of a moderate which I appreciate. His presence alone makes it an easier pill to swallow. Trump is just not a serious option.