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celts32 03-10-2010 02:56 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;672136]The rumors were JC to Cleveland for a 3rd and 4th, or Quinn and 4th, or Quinn and a 3rd.[/quote]

I would do either of those where we are getting a #3 pick. I would probably trade JC for a #3 straight up. It's obvious Shanny doesn't want JC long term and the skins need to find a way to get a pick in the 3rd round of this draft.

theJBexperience 03-10-2010 03:00 PM

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I'd prefer Willie Parker to Larry Johnson. I think he'd be better in the one cut, zone blocking system.

I heard Pitt decidedly reduced Willie Parker's carries to get Mendenhall more, and it wasn't so much that he lost a step. Rashard was the future, so give him the ball.

In the last game of the year when the Steelers actually gave him a lot of carries, Fast Willie still showed his speed. He ran for 91 yards on 12 carries with a 34 yard breakaway run. True, the game was pretty much meaningless, but he looked healthy and like he still had some speed.

SmootSmack 03-10-2010 03:02 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;672136]The rumors were JC to Cleveland for a 3rd and 4th, or Quinn and 4th, or Quinn and a 3rd.[/quote]

Thanks. I had forgotten

12thMan 03-10-2010 03:07 PM

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It appears as though some old heads are returning to their old squads. Randel El, now maybe Greg Ellis.


[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/story?id=4981695]Veteran Greg Ellis is open to returning to Dallas Cowboys - ESPN Dallas[/url]

diehardskin2982 03-10-2010 03:08 PM

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bryant signs in cincci

Redskins_P 03-10-2010 03:09 PM

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[quote=diehardskin2982;672150]bryant signs in cincci[/quote]

[URL="http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter"][B][COLOR=#d40000]Adam_Schefter[/COLOR][/B][/URL] Sounds like no T.O. in Cincinnati. RT @[URL="http://twitter.com/JOCKlifeSPORTS"][COLOR=#d40000]JOCKlifeSPORTS[/COLOR][/URL]: @[URL="http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter"][COLOR=#d40000]Adam_Schefter[/COLOR][/URL] Antonio Bryant agrees to four-year deal with Cincinnati Bengals [URL="http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/10286474588"]6 minutes ago [/URL]via [URL="http://ubertwitter.com/"]UberTwitter[/URL]

sandtrapjack 03-10-2010 03:13 PM

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[quote=Redskins_P;672153][URL="http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter"][B][COLOR=#d40000]Adam_Schefter[/COLOR][/B][/URL] Sounds like no T.O. in Cincinnati. RT @[URL="http://twitter.com/JOCKlifeSPORTS"][COLOR=#d40000]JOCKlifeSPORTS[/COLOR][/URL]: @[URL="http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter"][COLOR=#d40000]Adam_Schefter[/COLOR][/URL] Antonio Bryant agrees to four-year deal with Cincinnati Bengals [URL="http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/10286474588"]6 minutes ago [/URL]via [URL="http://ubertwitter.com/"]UberTwitter[/URL][/quote]
Was just gonna post that. This also means NO T.O. in Cincy.

So how 'bout those "T.O. one-year vet-minimum in DC threads"?????

sandtrapjack 03-10-2010 03:14 PM

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[quote=12thMan;672149]It appears as though some old heads are returning to their old squads. Randel El, now maybe Greg Ellis.


[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/story?id=4981695"]Veteran Greg Ellis is open to returning to Dallas Cowboys - ESPN Dallas[/URL][/quote]
Ellis will NOT return to Dallas. He got released from Oakland because of arthritis in his knees, plus Dallas has a STABLE full of OLB that are well below the age of 30.

MTK 03-10-2010 03:15 PM

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Damn I was kinda hoping to see TO go to Cincy. It would have made for some interesting story lines.

joethiesmanfan 03-10-2010 03:17 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;672126]23 carries for 83 yards?[/quote]

Watching the game he looked strong. He could have done alot more damage to us. He looked strong and fast to me. Let me check those highlights again.

Monkeydad 03-10-2010 03:49 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;672063]Sam Bradford is Brilliant!!

[URL="http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/35799570/ns/sports-player_news/"]Report: Sam Bradford scored 36 on Wonderlic - NFL- nbcsports.msnbc.com[/URL][/quote]


Wow, he's up there with these all-time greats:
Jason Maas-43
Drew Hensen-42
Charlie Frye-38
Craig Krenzel-38
Ryan Fitzatrick-38
Matt Leinart-35
JT O'Sullivan-35
Kellen Clemens-35
Charlie Whitehurst-33
Patrick Ramsey-32
Jesse Palmer-32
Giovanni Carmazzi-32
Sage Rosenfels-32
Andrew Walter-31
JP Losman-31


For laughs:
Vince Young-15
Jim Sorgi-15
Seneca Wallace-14
David Garrard-14
Brock Berlin-13
Tee Martin-11
Marcus Vick-11

BigHairedAristocrat 03-10-2010 03:50 PM

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Didn't Campbell somehow manage to take the thing twice and still get a pretty crappy grade?

Monkeydad 03-10-2010 03:59 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;672179]Didn't Campbell somehow manage to take the thing twice and still get a pretty crappy grade?[/quote]

He took it as a Jr and scored 14, then again as a Sr and scored a respectable 28, same as Peyton Manning. So if anything, he's studious, as we've seen.


Heath Shuler had a 16...and is now helping run the country. Yikes.

Check out that list I posted...a good score means nothing for football. :D

Ruhskins 03-10-2010 04:01 PM

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[quote=sandtrapjack;672154]Was just gonna post that. This also means NO T.O. in Cincy.

So how 'bout those [B]"T.O. one-year vet-minimum in DC threads"[/B]?????[/quote]

Oh don't worry, that train will show up in time.

SmootSmack 03-10-2010 04:07 PM

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Bryant's deal is 4 years for almost $30 million.

PHazard 03-10-2010 04:07 PM

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If most experts are right when being positive Sam Bradford goes #1 to the Rams, and saying the Lions are close lock to take Russell Okung at #2, that leaves Suh, McCoy, Berry, and Clausen ALL available at #4 which means it is much more likely that someone will want to trade up to our spot while we can trade down, still pick up the 2nd best LT on the board and acquire an extra pick or 2. This makes me happy

tryfuhl 03-10-2010 04:28 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;671917]LOL. If Tripp didn't write that way I would think he's hammered[/quote]

hahaha your train of thought became clear to me after reading that one

BigHairedAristocrat 03-10-2010 04:30 PM

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[quote=Buster;672183]He took it as a Jr and scored 14, then again as a Sr and scored a respectable 28, same as Peyton Manning. So if anything, he's studious, as we've seen.


Heath Shuler had a 16...and is now helping run the country. Yikes.

Check out that list I posted...a good score means nothing for football. :D[/quote]

i agree... that was kinda my point about bradford. i think a bad score should raise some concerns, but a good score doesnt really mean anything, if that makes any sense.

sandtrapjack 03-10-2010 04:30 PM

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Something is going down in Cleveland and I will bet Quinn is on the way out.

Jake Delhomme is scheduled to visit the Browns tomorrow on a free agent visit.

BigHairedAristocrat 03-10-2010 04:32 PM

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[quote=PHazard;672187]If most experts are right when being positive Sam Bradford goes #1 to the Rams, and saying the Lions are close lock to take Russell Okung at #2, that leaves Suh, McCoy, Berry, and Clausen ALL available at #4 which means it is much more likely that someone will want to trade up to our spot while we can trade down, still pick up the 2nd best LT on the board and acquire an extra pick or 2. This makes me happy[/quote]

No one on the planet would trade up to 4 to take Clausen, but if either one of Suh and McCoy were left on the board, our phone would be ringing off the hook. Unless I got an [I]amazing[/I] offer, I'd take Suh or McCoy and feel like the luckiest team in the draft.

tryfuhl 03-10-2010 04:36 PM

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[quote=12thMan;672064]So now they're talking about Brady Quinn will be dealt soon - coming to D.C. maybe? Hmmm...[/quote]

wonder what they want for him

tryfuhl 03-10-2010 04:37 PM

Re: Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread
 
[quote=SmootSmack;672063]Sam Bradford is Brilliant!!

[url=http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/35799570/ns/sports-player_news/]Report: Sam Bradford scored 36 on Wonderlic - NFL- nbcsports.msnbc.com[/url][/quote]

Tebow only got a 22? lol

tryfuhl 03-10-2010 04:39 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;672075]Quinn rumors have been going on for a while. Quinn to DC was one option between the Redskins and Browns (among a couple of others) that was picking up some steam last week but seemingly died over the weekend.[/quote]

so are we just getting the leftover talk? the days it takes to get to the media or whatever?

Skinsfanatic 03-10-2010 04:41 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;672200]No one on the planet would trade up to 4 to take Clausen, but if either one of Suh and McCoy were left on the board, our phone would be ringing off the hook. Unless I got an [I]amazing[/I] offer, I'd take Suh or McCoy and feel like the luckiest team in the draft.[/quote]

This. Suh or McCoy at 4 is a winner.

SmootSmack 03-10-2010 04:44 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;672205]so are we just getting the leftover talk? the days it takes to get to the media or whatever?[/quote]

Not sure what you mean

Redskin Jim 03-10-2010 04:46 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;672200]No one on the planet would trade up to 4 to take Clausen, but if either one of Suh and McCoy were left on the board, our phone would be ringing off the hook. Unless I got an [I]amazing[/I] offer, I'd take Suh or McCoy and feel like the luckiest team in the draft.[/quote]
Dude, if we ad one of these dt's to our dline, it is going to be sick. Of course with out any change to our oline, its is still sickly..

GTripp0012 03-10-2010 04:49 PM

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No one actually wants to hear my thoughts on Brady Quinn, but if the choices end up being to trade a 4th or 5th round pick for Quinn's rights or to take Jimmy Clausen with the 4th overall pick, this seems like such a no brain-er that I would probably have to blacklist those who didn't agree with me.

tryfuhl 03-10-2010 04:50 PM

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[quote=Buster;672183]He took it as a Jr and scored 14, then again as a Sr and scored a respectable 28, same as Peyton Manning. So if anything, he's studious, as we've seen.


Heath Shuler had a 16...and is now helping run the country. Yikes.

Check out that list I posted...a good score means nothing for football. :D[/quote]
those type of scores are pitiful, I mean they're middle school level tests

some of these guys probably couldn't even get enough on the asvab to go army infantry (not a knock on .mil)

SmootSmack 03-10-2010 04:51 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;672212]No one actually wants to hear my thoughts on Brady Quinn, but if the choices end up being to trade a 4th or 5th round pick for Quinn's rights or to take Jimmy Clausen with the 4th overall pick, this seems like such a no brain-er that I would probably have to blacklist those who didn't agree with me.[/quote]

I imagine your thoughts on Quinn are the same as they were three years ago. Maybe we could get Tim Rattay to back him up?

tryfuhl 03-10-2010 04:53 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;672208]Not sure what you mean[/quote]

yeah didn't word that too well

the rumors are basically over, but it took awhile for it to get to the media?

GTripp0012 03-10-2010 04:56 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;672214]I imagine your thoughts on Quinn are the same as they were three years ago. Maybe we could get Tim Rattay to back him up?[/quote]Or maybe we could trade up for Sam Bradford, and back him up with Jevan Snead and John Skelton :tongue

The shorthand version: for one-reason or another, all other options are sub-optimal to keeping Campbell, and playing him behind a rebuilt OL. But in terms of developmental prospects, Quinn would be one of many options that could be picked up at the cost of a mid-to-late rounder. And not all of those options are equal, according to me.

Son Of Man 03-10-2010 04:59 PM

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I'm intrigued about the possibility of signing Larry Johnson...wonder what he has in the tank?

SmootSmack 03-10-2010 05:01 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;672219]Or maybe we could trade up for Sam Bradford, and back him up with Jevan Snead and John Skelton :tongue

The shorthand version: for one-reason or another, all other options are sub-optimal to keeping Campbell, and playing him behind a rebuilt OL. But in terms of developmental prospects, Quinn would be one of many options that could be picked up at the cost of a mid-to-late rounder. And not all of those options are equal, according to me.[/quote]

I wouldn't trade up for Bradford, and I don't think Skelton fits here

But I'd rather spend a 5th on Snead than trade one for Quinn.

GTripp0012 03-10-2010 05:03 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;672223]I wouldn't trade up for Bradford, and I don't think Skelton fits here

But I'd rather spend a 5th on Snead than trade one for Quinn.[/quote]But...then we have Jevan Snead, and not Brady Quinn.

SmootSmack 03-10-2010 05:03 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;672216]yeah didn't word that too well

the rumors are basically over, but it took awhile for it to get to the media?[/quote]

Well rumors tend to pick up again after a dead period sometimes. But I also wouldn't say they take awhile to get to the media. I mean how do you think I hear most of this stuff. It can take a while to get from the media to the public because more often than not it's not worth bringing up

SmootSmack 03-10-2010 05:05 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;672226]But...then we have Jevan Snead, and not Brady Quinn.[/quote]

Exactly

GTripp0012 03-10-2010 05:06 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;672229]Exactly[/quote]Just clarifying.

tryfuhl 03-10-2010 05:09 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;672228]Well rumors tend to pick up again after a dead period sometimes. But I also wouldn't say they take awhile to get to the media. I mean how do you think I hear most of this stuff. It can take a while to get from the media to the public because more often than not it's not worth bringing up[/quote]
I don't know, just figured some stuff didn't get reported, like you said. Either that or there are rumblings but they're waiting to report until there's something more solid instead of pulling a Florio.

SmootSmack 03-10-2010 05:29 PM

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Bears just signed Eddie Williams, that's four former Redskins that have found work this past week now

GTripp0012 03-10-2010 05:34 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;672240]Bears just signed Eddie Williams, that's four former Redskins that have found work this past week now[/quote]Color me surprised. I figured that Randle El would get picked up, but that Mason/Williams/Collins/Yoder/Smoot would not get any play after release. So this, I think, does have meaning.


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