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Giantone 07-05-2015 09:40 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;1114748]There is your perception..........and here is the reality.

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/11/sports/football/11taxes.html?_r=0[/url]



Let's not even talk about the costs that NJ ate for the Super Bowl.[/quote]


Zoffinger is incorrect but you sound a little jealous?Question have you been to the stadium ? I'm not a fan of it don't like it at all .I think it's safe to say most of the roads are the same that were there for the old Meadowlands since it was built right in the parking lot ,as for the train stop and any other improvements have been in the works for years before the new place was built, they have to do with the mall that has been thrown around on and off again for almost 20 years .

Chico23231 07-06-2015 09:45 AM

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[quote=Giantone;1114751]Burns only .He can still play .

Adam Schefter
✔ ý@AdamSchefter
JPP has burns on palm, 3 fingers. 1 finger could have nerve damage. Didn't lose any fingers, team thinks he'll be OK, per @DanGrazianoESPN.


9:30 PM - 5 Jul 2015[/quote]

he needs to go ahead and sign that franchise tender before its yank or before he does something dumb again

Chico23231 07-06-2015 01:33 PM

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[quote=Giantone;1114751]Burns only .He can still play .

Adam Schefter
✔ ý@AdamSchefter
JPP has burns on palm, 3 fingers. 1 finger could have nerve damage. Didn't lose any fingers, team thinks he'll be OK, per @DanGrazianoESPN.


9:30 PM - 5 Jul 2015[/quote]


NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports the Giants pulled a long-term offer to unsigned franchise player Jason Pierre-Paul after he injured his hand in a weekend fireworks accident.

Per Rapsheet, the G-Men "do not believe a long-term offer is in the best interest of those involved at this point." JPP is expected to be okay, but the extent of the damage remains unclear. He appears to be dealing with nerve damage and burns. Pierre-Paul's franchise tag will earn him a cool $14.8 million this season.

well they yanked the long term offer

Giantone 07-06-2015 01:33 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1114756]he needs to go ahead and sign that franchise tender before its yank or when he does something dumb again[/quote]

agree with you !

Giantone 07-06-2015 07:45 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1114757]NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports the Giants pulled a long-term offer to unsigned franchise player Jason Pierre-Paul after he injured his hand in a weekend fireworks accident.

Per Rapsheet, the G-Men "do not believe a long-term offer is in the best interest of those involved at this point." JPP is expected to be okay, but the extent of the damage remains unclear. He appears to be dealing with nerve damage and burns. Pierre-Paul's franchise tag will earn him a cool $14.8 million this season.

well they yanked the long term offer[/quote]



They haven't made a long term offer to him yet and might just let him play this year with the franchise tag .

SirLK26 07-06-2015 07:55 PM

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^Yeah, I heard there is no long term offer and they may just let him play out this year on the franchise tag.






















:Smoker:

NC_Skins 07-08-2015 08:17 AM

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[url=http://deadspin.com/donovan-mcnabb-arrested-for-dui-after-traffic-accident-1716248739?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow]Donovan McNabb Arrested For DUI After Traffic Accident[/url]

Hey look, it's McDouchebag. Wonder if he still wants to give RGIII that advice?.... Somehow I imagine he'll blame Mike Shanahan for this as well.

NC_Skins 07-08-2015 09:23 AM

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[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2516874-insider-buzz-jpp-likely-headed-to-nfi-list-would-miss-giants-first-6-games?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=web-mob-art-vid-162]Insider Buzz: JPP 'Likely' Headed for NFI List, Could Miss Giants' First 6 Games | Bleacher Report[/url]

Damn. That injury is worse than people probably realized.

over the mountain 07-08-2015 10:59 AM

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13220366/marshawn-lynch-seattle-seahawks-putting-end-biopic]Marshawn Lynch of Seattle Seahawks putting end to his biopic[/url]

I get it.

He doesnt have a problem with promotion or marketing if he is the chief benefactor.

But he be damned if he promotes and makes someone else money off his likeness.

kinda over the whole "fight the power" thing .. coming from a well paid athlete.

NC_Skins 07-08-2015 11:14 AM

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[quote=over the mountain;1114798][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13220366/marshawn-lynch-seattle-seahawks-putting-end-biopic]Marshawn Lynch of Seattle Seahawks putting end to his biopic[/url]

I get it.

He doesnt have a problem with promotion or marketing if he is the chief benefactor.

But he be damned if he promotes and makes someone else money off his likeness.

kinda over the whole "fight the power" thing .. coming from a well paid athlete.[/quote]


Sooooo...he's making a movie about the making of his failed movie??? LOL

This guy is definitely Hollywood material. :laughing2




[quote]Bobino, however, told Rolling Stone that he's writing a script about his experiences in making the movie and the aftermath of the trailer's release on the Internet.[/quote]

Chico23231 07-08-2015 04:47 PM

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[url=http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/13222105/new-york-giants-leave-south-florida-getting-chance-see-injured-jpp-hospital]New York Giants leave South Florida without getting chance to see injured JPP in hospital[/url]

strange...something aint right

Alvin Walton 07-08-2015 07:58 PM

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Shefter is saying he had his right index finger amputated.
:saywhat:

calia 07-08-2015 08:42 PM

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That's horrible. Saw the report on ESPN. Totally crazy and hard to imagine it would affect his play. Sad and really a dumb, avoidable injury.


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Hog1 07-08-2015 08:44 PM

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HOLY SHIT!
Sooo.....dumb, but a real bad deal for JPP.
Damn shame.......

Chico23231 07-08-2015 09:18 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1114815]Shefter is saying he had his right index finger amputated.
:saywhat:[/quote]

Nice, Jerry Garcia style. Hell of a way to pay homage especially during the 50 year anniversary shows.

punch it in 07-08-2015 10:10 PM

All things off season 2015.
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1114818]Nice, Jerry Garcia style. Hell of a way to pay homage especially during the 50 year anniversary shows.[/QUOTE]


Seriously. I just wore my Garcia shirt. Good for him.
Edit: BTW Trey was absolutely unreal. I expected nothing less. Treyful Dead.

ethat001 07-08-2015 10:18 PM

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[quote=calia;1114816]That's horrible. Saw the report on ESPN. Totally crazy and hard to imagine it would affect his play. Sad and really a dumb, avoidable injury.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]

Wow this sucks, didn't think it was that serious and now I feel bad for him.

From what i'm reading online, people adjust remarkably well and very quickly to finger amputations. Depending on extent (whole finger, partial, etc), and his physical/psychological recovery -- I'm betting he surprises and is back to normal mid-season.

ethat001 07-08-2015 10:55 PM

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Wow, [URL="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/618918579770146816/photo/1"]Schefty posted JPP's actual medical chart[/URL]. That's a big deal and the hospital will get into serious trouble over this, with certainty of lawsuit for millions.

With that info, looks like JPP had a "ray amputation", which [URL="http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1238395-treatment"]is explained here with pictures[/URL]. Basically, they're going to take out all remaining parts of the index finger, so he can use the middle finger for handgrip instead.

From the article, [I]"However, conversion to a ray amputation can narrow the palm and result in a loss of grip strength and pronation strength.. [They] found that power grip, key pinch, and supination strength are diminished by approximately 20% of normal with index ray amputations.[19] Pronation strength is diminished by 50% in the same group of patients. "[/I]


The end result is-- JPP will likely come back, but his handgrip will be weaker. I suspect he'll still be quick but the grip strength may limit a little of what he was able to do before.

NC_Skins 07-09-2015 08:51 AM

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All because this idiot couldn't use something that would blow him up. I swear many of these guys are absolute morons.

punch it in 07-09-2015 09:15 AM

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[IMG]http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/09/dde0c2e1903c68c545b103d02af30b28.jpg[/IMG]

SFREDSKIN 07-09-2015 02:00 PM

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Apparently JPP wasn't the only one that lost a finger.

[url=http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/usweekly/article/Jason-Pierre-Paul-and-C-J-Wilson-NFL-Stars-6375150.php]Jason Pierre-Paul and C.J. Wilson, NFL Stars, Lose Fingers in Fireworks Accidents - SFGate[/url]

Giantone 07-09-2015 06:49 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1114826][IMG]http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/09/dde0c2e1903c68c545b103d02af30b28.jpg[/IMG][/quote]


I admit ,I did chuckle at that ,thanks .:)

skinsfan69 07-09-2015 08:29 PM

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We all do/did stupid things when we were young. But I just don't get playing around with fireworks. Just was never ever my thing.

SFREDSKIN 07-09-2015 08:36 PM

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RIP Snake, one of my favorite players from the 70's.
[url=http://www.csnbayarea.com/raiders/raiders-legend-ken-stabler-passes-away-age-69]Raiders legend Ken Stabler passes away at age 69 | CSN Bay Area[/url]

Hog1 07-09-2015 08:50 PM

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I have probably detonated.......10 truckloads of fireworks in my life for one thing or another. It's relatively basic sort of stuff:

Don't put on your head
Don't cause digits to fall/cut off etc.
light the fuse
GTF outta' the way
Ooooh/Aaaaaah
If the outcome varies from the detail here, extreme amounts of narcotics.....alcohol or sundry other intoxicants can generally be found at the root.....
Real sorry for JPP......But "come on man"

SFREDSKIN 07-09-2015 09:15 PM

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[quote=Hog1;1114833]I have probably detonated.......10 truckloads of fireworks in my life for one thing or another. It's relatively basic sort of stuff:

Don't put on your head
Don't cause digits to fall/cut off etc.
light the fuse
GTF outta' the way
Ooooh/Aaaaaah
If the outcome varies from the detail here, extreme amounts of narcotics.....alcohol or sundry other intoxicants can generally be found at the root.....
Real sorry for JPP......But "come on man"[/quote]

CJ Wilson is a CB and lost 2 digits, I say he's in real trouble.

punch it in 07-09-2015 09:45 PM

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1114834]CJ Wilson is a CB and lost 2 digits, I say he's in real trouble.[/QUOTE]


Yeah Ronnie Lott he is not...

punch it in 07-09-2015 09:47 PM

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Not sure if this is real but if it is ..... Oh God.
[IMG]http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/09/54512dfb21d7d04bff57e87134d0ad7e.jpg[/IMG]

Chico23231 07-09-2015 09:54 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1114834]CJ Wilson is a CB and lost 2 digits, I say he's in real trouble.[/quote]

The level of stupid in this league has to be at an all time high. Just how in the hell does the nfl lose 3 total fingers to fireworks in one day?

What an embarressment

SirLK26 07-09-2015 10:21 PM

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[quote=Hog1;1114833]I have probably detonated.......10 truckloads of fireworks in my life for one thing or another. It's relatively basic sort of stuff:

Don't put on your head
Don't cause digits to fall/cut off etc.
light the fuse
GTF outta' the way
Ooooh/Aaaaaah
If the outcome varies from the detail here, extreme amounts of narcotics.....alcohol or sundry other intoxicants can generally be found at the root.....
Real sorry for JPP......But "come on man"[/quote]

This.

[quote=punch it in;1114836]Not sure if this is real but if it is ..... Oh God.
[IMG]http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/09/54512dfb21d7d04bff57e87134d0ad7e.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

After a bit of Google searching, I think that is a fireworks injury but not JPP's.

Hog1 07-10-2015 01:29 PM

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I said Holy Shit earlier.......
It wasn't near enough.....OMG. If that's real it is hard to imagine he can play again. Very sorry for him on this deal

Chico23231 07-10-2015 02:41 PM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/10/greg-hardy-suspension-reduced-to-four-games/]Greg Hardy suspension reduced to four games | ProFootballTalk[/url]

I dont understand ray rice case vs this more serious incident which he was found guilty for in court. league is a joke

That Guy 07-10-2015 08:54 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1114854][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/10/greg-hardy-suspension-reduced-to-four-games/]Greg Hardy suspension reduced to four games | ProFootballTalk[/url]

I dont understand ray rice case vs this more serious incident which he was found guilty for in court. league is a joke[/quote]

ray rice was caught on video, the league is all about image, not substance.

mooby 07-11-2015 11:25 AM

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[quote=That Guy;1114861]ray rice was caught on video, the league is all about image, not substance.[/quote]

Truth. Only hope for longer suspension is if the outcry over this is large enough. That already happened once though.

punch it in 07-11-2015 10:37 PM

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[QUOTE=Hog1;1114853]I said Holy Shit earlier.......

It wasn't near enough.....OMG. If that's real it is hard to imagine he can play again. Very sorry for him on this deal[/QUOTE]


Not sure if it is real but i know early reports were missing massive amounts of flesh on the hand and fingers. Guess it was only one finger, but im sure that photo is not far off. It was apparently pretty gruesome. I think he is crazy for amputating his finger just to avoid surgeries. From what ive heard it will not be easy (technique wise) to play the position with four digits.

That Guy 07-12-2015 12:36 AM

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[quote=mooby;1114872]Truth. Only hope for longer suspension is if the outcry over this is large enough. That already happened once though.[/quote]

apparently there's a new tougher domestic violence policy, but since it was made in reaction to these cases (but after the incidents took place) they can't apply it retroactively. new league minimum will be 6 games for the first offense and possible lifetime ban for offense #2.

also, technically he won his case on appeal since the victim didn't testify at the appeal, which is a thing you have to do in that state.

anyways, that's the less jaded/reactionary response.

Chico23231 07-12-2015 08:13 AM

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[quote=That Guy;1114884]apparently there's a new tougher domestic violence policy, but since it was made in reaction to these cases (but after the incidents took place) they can't apply it retroactively. new league minimum will be 6 games for the first offense and possible lifetime ban for offense #2.

also, technically he won his case on appeal since the victim didn't testify at the appeal, which is a thing you have to do in that state.

anyways, that's the less jaded/reactionary response.[/quote]

Technically, it's been recognized the only reason she didn't testify is because a financial settlement was reached. Both parties have said this, none of the facts were ever successfully argued against in the guilty verdict. If there was a video, he wouldn't be in the league right now

NYCskinfan82 07-12-2015 08:14 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1114854][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/10/greg-hardy-suspension-reduced-to-four-games/]Greg Hardy suspension reduced to four games | ProFootballTalk[/url]

I dont understand ray rice case vs this more serious incident which he was found guilty for in court. league is a joke[/quote]

the fact he's now a cowgirl might have something to do with it.

donofriose 07-14-2015 12:06 AM

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[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/hbo-s-john-oliver-hits-all-the-right-notes-on-stadium-funding-rant-141459136.html[/url]

Just another article about how dumb fans are when it comes to building stadiums for their teams.

kct1975 07-14-2015 07:19 AM

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[QUOTE=donofriose;1114919][url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/hbo-s-john-oliver-hits-all-the-right-notes-on-stadium-funding-rant-141459136.html[/url]

Just another article about how dumb fans are when it comes to building stadiums for their teams.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the link...good article and good video!

I just forwarded to some friends.


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