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[quote=punch it in;1361153]Lol. That’s one way to find a quarterback![/quote]

Perfect summary of our search for a QB for about 30 years:

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3 weeks and counting down!

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2 weeks from today until the curse continues or finally comes to an end.

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Apropos of nothing, I really just wish RGIII would stfu.

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Espn nfl home page has a link to a mock draft I have not tried yet. They have a light speed option and give you the percentage that the player you drafted will be there at that spot, and what the percentage is he would have been there at the next stop. Hard to take a snapshot of the finished draft but it is what Ill be doing for the next couple hours.

Basically talking to you SD. Lol



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[quote=punch it in;1361210]Espn nfl home page has a link to a mock draft I have not tried yet. They have a light speed option and give you the percentage that the player you drafted will be there at that spot, and what the percentage is he would have been there at the next stop. Hard to take a snapshot of the finished draft but it is what Ill be doing for the next couple hours.

Basically talking to you SD. Lol

Check out my Commanders draft! Create your own with the ESPN Analytics free NFL Mock Draft Simulator. [url]https://www.espnanalytics.com/draft-sim[/url][/quote]

Smal world, because I literally just tried that one for the 1st time yesterday.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1361216]Smal world, because I literally just tried that one for the 1st time yesterday.[/QUOTE]


The more I do these mocks the more I think we are going to have to trade back into the first to assure ourselves a solid LT.

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[quote=punch it in;1361222]The more I do these mocks the more I think we are going to have to trade back into the first to assure ourselves a solid LT.[/quote]

I'm all for it. Come out of the 1st with a QB and a T it's already a B draft without making another pick.

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I'm very torn on trading up. I am thinking more long term than just next season and this is a deep draft, with such a solid group of talent evaluators I don't want them giving up picks. The pick they surrender could end up being a Pro Bowl safety or guard. But in thinking long term obviously protecting and developing your rookie QB is a priority, thus why I am torn on the idea.

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[url]https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/lists/commanders-2024-7-round-mock-draft-3-0-nfl-draft-jayden-daniels-mike-sainristil-xavier-legette/[/url]


Ive definitely mocked this exact draft.

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The thing to keep in mind about trading back into the 1st round is, not just that you're getting a superior player, you are also getting 1-more year with the pick on a rookie contract. That's a big plus.

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I'm really hoping for a desperate team when we're on the clock at 36 (if we are).

Would love one of those 3rd this year 1st next year for a high 2nd type deals you see once in a while.

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[quote=simbosargos75;1361233]I'm really hoping for a desperate team when we're on the clock at 36 (if we are).

Would love one of those 3rd this year 1st next year for a high 2nd type deals you see once in a while.[/quote]

Yes I would love to get a first next year from someone even if that means not filling the LT spot this offseason. We simply have to find more impact players.

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[QUOTE=Darrell Green Fan;1361236]Yes I would love to get a first next year from someone even if that means not filling the LT spot this offseason. We simply have to find more impact players.[/QUOTE]Strongly disagree. We need to get a left tackle that's going to be starting in this league for 10 years and then clone him and the quarterback so that in case of injuries (which you know we will have) we can just bring in the clones

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Totally. The worst thing we can do is not give a rookie QB a line he has confidence in. Who knows, maybe the difference between Stroud and Young last year was the crap OL of the Panthers? Maybe our rookie QB isn't taking us to the playoffs, but he definitely ain't behind a crap OL, and who knows what damage we do to him if we don't protect him as best we can. Not to mention being able to use the run to ease that pressure too. 2nd and/or 3rd pick needs to be an LT. And personally I'd like to see a trade back into the 1st to get the best guy we can.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1361240]Totally. The worst thing we can do is not give a rookie QB a line he has confidence in. Who knows, maybe the difference between Stroud and Young last year was the crap OL of the Panthers? Maybe our rookie QB isn't taking us to the playoffs, but he definitely ain't behind a crap OL, and who knows what damage we do to him if we don't protect him as best we can. Not to mention being able to use the run to ease that pressure too. 2nd and/or 3rd pick needs to be an LT. [B]And personally I'd like to see a trade back into the 1st to get the best guy we can.[/B][/quote]

I think they'll need to do that to draft a LT who can start right away. When the run on the top LT prospects starts at the draft, they'll need to jump in immediately with a trade offer to move up and get one. It will cost but it will probably be worth it.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1361238]Strongly disagree. We need to get a left tackle that's going to be starting in this league for 10 years and then clone him and the quarterback so that in case of injuries (which you know we will have) we can just bring in the clones

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I can certainly see your point, which is why I had said earlier that I'm torn on the idea of moving up to take a LT this draft. I guess it depends on how much they have to give up and who the player is. We are probably not talking about moving all the way up to get Alt or any of the top guys, so that leaves the next level. This is a good tackle draft for sure, if we can really get that guy at say 19 I'd support that move. But if it's for a good but not great prospect I'm not so sure. Having an extra first next year could mean adding 2 impact players in the first round.

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i would do what it takes to get to 10 - 13, that's where the top OT's are going. I would even trade next year's 1st if it means getting the number 1 or 2 rated tackle.

Not sure they will be that aggressive.

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I'm with CRed on this.
QB, LT, and Edge Rusher are the 3 most important positions in the NFL.

With an elite LT, you don't have to change your blocking scheme to game plan for a good pass rusher and you don't have to use a TE/RB to chip block.

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Gonna be crowded

[quote]Albert Breer
New Commanders GM Adam Peters is bringing the idea with him from San Francisco, where the 49ers would host large groups of prospects on 30 visits. Idea is to see them interact with peers.

As for the number, around 20 prospects are tentatively set to be in Ashburn tomorrow.[/quote]

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Something tells me Peters knows exactly how important a strong, if not HoF level, LT is to a franchise, and that he'd be a fool if he passed up the chance to get one in this draft. If he's not even thinking about how to move back up to have the best chance of getting one of the top 3 LT's, he's a fool. I don't think he's a fool.

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1361254]Something tells me Peters knows exactly how important a strong, if not HoF level, LT is to a franchise, and that he'd be a fool if he passed up the chance to get one in this draft. If he's not even thinking about how to move back up to have the best chance of getting one of the top 3 LT's, he's a fool. I don't think he's a fool.[/QUOTE]100% agree.

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Oh I'm sure Peters has a plan. But I sure hope it's not trading next year's first.

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[QUOTE=Darrell Green Fan;1361256]Oh I'm sure Peters has a plan. But I sure hope it's not trading next year's first.[/QUOTE]There is a good chance this year's top OT's fall to a spot (11-13) where next year's first would seal the deal. If they were falling because of their quality that would be one thing but it is truly a perfect storm situation that could see top 5 talent at OT drop because of the QB and WR star talent going in the first 8 picks. Also, since it's a deep draft for offensive tackles most teams will be willing to wait till a run starts. If Peters can get a top 15 pick for a reasonable trade including next year's first or second an one of our 2nd's I hope he does it in a blink of an eye.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1361257]There is a good chance this year's top OT's fall to a spot (11-13) where next year's first would seal the deal. If they were falling because of their quality that would be one thing but it is truly a perfect storm situation that could see top 5 talent at OT drop because of the QB and WR star talent going in the first 8 picks. Also, since it's a deep draft for offensive tackles most teams will be willing to wait till a run starts. If Peters can get a top 15 pick for a reasonable trade including next year's first or second an one of our 2nd's I hope he does it in a blink of an eye.

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Would rather he trade both 2ds with a 3rd and keep next years 1st to move into that range. Our two 2ds and pick 100 (last 3rd) should get us to 13 or our two 2ds and pick 67 (first 3rd) should get us to 10.

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1361258]Would rather he trade both 2ds with a 3rd and keep next years 1st to move into that range. Our two 2ds and pick 100 (last 3rd) should get us to 13 or our two 2ds and pick 67 (first 3rd) should get us to 10.[/QUOTE]I would be good with any of those options. But I would think next year's first would let us keep 36 or 40 and that would be an excellent spot for a DE.

Overall, as long as we aren't left scratching our head with the players chosen(j davis), i trust how they will go about achieving it.

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For those against giving up next years rd1, I get it, but consider the scenario that without a top LT our QB pick this year gets sacked, harassed etc. to the point he looks like Howell did 2nd half of the season. Then we don't know if he's a bust, shell-shocked or just in need of a good LT. Or we do OK, say even 8-9, and come up middle of the pack. We still need a good/great LT but there's no prospect where we pick in '25, so we go BPA and still need an LT.

The draft is always a risk, but I'd rather gamble next years pick on a guy everyone covets this year, than wait and hope things work out next year.

Besides, Peters knows that while he has rope to play with, he can't hang around too long without results. He wants a winning team inside 2-3 years to cement his job, and he won't get that by waiting and hoping.

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If by giving up next year's first, which could be utilized on a legit CB1 for example, netted a guy like Joe Alt I can see the argument. But they won't get that high without sacrificing multiple picks and I don't want to do that in such a deep draft. And with such a deep OT class I just have to believe they can get a quality starting LT without sacrificing next year's first.

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Depends on the price to move up to say 13th or 14th Pick (Raiders/Saints)? Number of mocks predicting Latham, Fashanu, Fuaga there still. Would it take a 1st to tempt either of these to give up their pick or a parcel of 2's and 3's?

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1361264]Depends on the price to move up to say 13th or 14th Pick (Raiders/Saints)? Number of mocks predicting Latham, Fashanu, Fuaga there still. Would it take a 1st to tempt either of these to give up their pick or a parcel of 2's and 3's?[/QUOTE]I would actually try to go to Denver give them our first round pick next year plus the 36 and 100 For their number 12 They would have to look at that as giving them ammunition for a quarterback next year and put us ahead of both LV and New Orleans

edit: not sure how the value of those picks all add up but I would manipulate it around with something like that structure

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Peters and co are turning this thing into a clown show, having all the QB's going to Top Golf and hanging out w/ one another. Talk about dragging something out. Can't wait for this nonsense to be over with.

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I see nothing wrong with the team hosting those QBs for a fun day. His agent spoke up about the way they are doing things and is getting absolutely toasted all over the internet for it.

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They better not trade next year's first. There's an extremely real chance that they're going to stink this year.

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[QUOTE=simbosargos75;1361269]They better not trade next year's first. There's an extremely real chance that they're going to stink this year.[/QUOTE]There's just as real a chance that they win the division because the other three teams are going to have their own issues.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1361271][IMG]https://i.ibb.co/v1T9MLF/PFN-Draft-result-1713451952833.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]i like that one

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[quote=skinsfan69;1361266]Peters and co are turning this thing into a clown show, having all the QB's going to Top Golf and hanging out w/ one another. Talk about dragging something out. Can't wait for this nonsense to be over with.[/quote]

It's definitely different. I would like to know more about that decision making process, and why they thought it was a better idea than hosting them one-on-one.

I hope it wasn't because Josh was only available on that day as Florio suggested.

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Belichick said they used to do the same thing with bringing in groups of players. 49ers did it when AP was there.

Non story.