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[quote=Mattyk;717457]I welcome the Favre talk at this point[/quote]
.....................who?lol

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[quote=Giantone;717528].....................who?lol[/quote]


Well its obvious why you didn't understand who this greatness he was speaking of, classic case of Fleli itis....

Now if was a little more specific in his terminology even you could have had a chance to understand... "LORD" Favre ring a bell?

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They need to cut the shit and just have AH sit out til the knee is treated and healed. Every time they try to test the guy is a media feeding frenzy that is fast becoming a distraction to the team. Diffuse the situation by sitting AH out with an aggravated knee injury. He probably aggravated it busting ass to shed those 35lbs as he probably overdid it with running, etc. I see no point in giving the press ammo to this stupid drama. Shanahan isn't doing himself any favors with this crap anymore. Just sit the guy out til the knee heals.

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^ That's what they are doing

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This sounds promising:
JReidPost
Redskins sources: Haynesworth scheduled to arrive at complex in about 30 minutes to begin daily workout. Knee still not cooperating.
about 1 hour ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

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Redskins sources II: May decide to take test despite balky knee because he's eager to finally participate in full practice.
about 1 hour ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

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Redskins sources III: Working well with Haslett and actually now likes new D, but test still hurdle. Moral of story: Don't mess with Shanny.
about 1 hour ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

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[quote=SmootSmack;717477][url]http://www.thewarpath.net/717104-post502.html[/url][/quote]

thanks, kinda hard to keep up with this thread

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Even though Albert loss 35 pounds he was clearly not in football shape if he could not pass the conditioning test. This test will show if you have worked on your cardio. I understand that AH will not run that far during the game but he needs to be in better cardio shape to help his endurance for the reg season games. Last year he was clearly not in top shape. If he gets in top shape he will have a monster season.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;717533]Well its obvious why you didn't understand who this greatness he was speaking of, classic case of Fleli itis....

Now if was a little more specific in his terminology even you could have had a chance to understand... "LORD" Favre ring a bell?[/quote]

Whoa Whoa Whoa you may get Saden coming down on you!!!

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Am I the only one that doesn't consider being able to do 600 (or 900) yard shuttle run as being equivalent to football shape for a DT? I keep hearing Haynesworth isn't in football shape; then someone mentions a shuttle run. Lets get him in pads and see if he can shed blockers in a 10 yard (max) run. That's football shape.

Honestly, I think that Albert could have done more -- but lets not confuse a DT doing shuttle runs vs. football shape. I'm curious how many along our DL could do this drill.

Both sides made mistakes. Haynesworth seems to have bought in. Lets get this done, get him on the field, and let Haynesworth add his presence to the front 3.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;717556]They need to cut the shit and just have AH sit out til the knee is treated and healed. Every time they try to test the guy is a media feeding frenzy that is fast becoming a distraction to the team. Diffuse the situation by sitting AH out with an aggravated knee injury. He probably aggravated it busting ass to shed those 35lbs as he probably overdid it with running, etc. I see no point in giving the press ammo to this stupid drama. Shanahan isn't doing himself any favors with this crap anymore. Just sit the guy out til the knee heals.[/quote]


This was all brought on by AH because he refused to come to camps saying he was working on his own. Its great he lost 35 pounds but he could have done that by just diet alone. Now he shows up and is out of shape so he needs to be embarassed.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;717556]They need to cut the shit and just have AH sit out til the knee is treated and healed. Every time they try to test the guy is a media feeding frenzy that is fast becoming a distraction to the team. Diffuse the situation by sitting AH out with an aggravated knee injury. He probably aggravated it busting ass to shed those 35lbs as he probably overdid it with running, etc. I see no point in giving the press ammo to this stupid drama. Shanahan isn't doing himself any favors with this crap anymore. Just sit the guy out til the knee heals.[/quote]


This was all brought on by AH because he refused to come to camps saying he was working on his own. Its great he lost 35 pounds but he could have done that by just diet alone. Now he shows up and is out of shape so he needs to be embarassed. It also set the tone for other team members,

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Daseal makes a good point. I'm sure a lot of us could pass this test, but that certainly does not mean we're anywhere near being in football shape.

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[quote=Mattyk;717606]Daseal makes a good point. I'm sure a lot of us could pass this test, but that certainly does not mean we're anywhere near being in football shape.[/quote]

I think thats the whole point. I think the test is more or less trying to see if Albert even has the dedication to ATTEMPT to pass. From what i heard he almost made it the last time, so maybe they will let up and let him practice.

BUT, if he keeps on with this not trying stuff....then they should cut his ass

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;717556]They need to cut the shit and just have AH sit out til the knee is treated and healed. Every time they try to test the guy is a media feeding frenzy that is fast becoming a distraction to the team. Diffuse the situation by sitting AH out with an aggravated knee injury. He probably aggravated it busting ass to shed those 35lbs as he probably overdid it with running, etc. I see no point in giving the press ammo to this stupid drama. Shanahan isn't doing himself any favors with this crap anymore. Just sit the guy out til the knee heals.[/quote]

I tend to agree here...tell the press he will not be running on the knee for the next week so it can heal up...rather than doing light work on it...ditch the work, it can't be helping a bad knee...put him in a brace and let him watch practice and work on the rest of his body and study the playbook like a machine. If the message comes from Shanny, it will still look like he is calling all the shots....I don't see the value in Haynesworth aggravating a knee injury to run some mandatory shuttle test. He'd obviously have to run hard to get through it...likewise, he shouldn't be practicing on a bad knee either...but he should be able to be involved in walkthroughs...again...if Shanny says it is all to benefit his knee...and he must still pass later..he still has all the cards.

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[quote=Daseal;717603]Am I the only one that doesn't consider being able to do 600 (or 900) yard shuttle run as being equivalent to football shape for a DT? I keep hearing Haynesworth isn't in football shape; then someone mentions a shuttle run. Lets get him in pads and see if he can shed blockers in a 10 yard (max) run. That's football shape.

Honestly, I think that Albert could have done more -- but lets not confuse a DT doing shuttle runs vs. football shape. I'm curious how many along our DL could do this drill.

Both sides made mistakes. Haynesworth seems to have bought in. Lets get this done, get him on the field, and let Haynesworth add his presence to the front 3.[/quote]

Judging by comments from Matt Bowen and Jeff Fisher, these shuttle runs are pretty much standard across the league. I'm going to guess that more than half of the DTs in the league could do this without a problem, on the first try.

By the way, I've never been a fan of the term "football shape." It reminds me of Bobby Knight trying to understand "game face." That said, *anyone* in the league should be able to do this IMO. If you can't run 300 yards, then you can't play an entire game of football IMO.

When did running at football practice become taboo?