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[url=http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-republican-leaders-abruptly-pull-their-rewrite-of-the-nation%e2%80%99s-health-care-law/ar-BByG2V1?li=BBnb7Kz]House Republican leaders abruptly pull their rewrite of the nation’s health-care law[/url]

“So much about political power is about perception. And if the perception is that you can’t get your first big initiative done, then that hurts the perceptions down the road about your ability to get other big things done,” Byrne said in an interview before the decision.

I long for the days when making bills was about doing what's best for the majority of the population, not about perception that you suck at doing your job.

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What a fail! Sad!

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Obamacare has already failed. Most Insurance companies have left..premiums have risen...we need to come together and find a system that works. Obamacare didn't, this feeble attempt didn't appear as a viable replacement. Hopefully this spurns some ideas to find something better. But let's be honest, Obamacare was a disaster

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ACA is still better than the mess Trumpcare would have been. Big time fail on their part. They should have taken their time and come up with a viable solution vs rushing a half assed fix.

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[quote=Chico23231;1168598]Obamacare has already failed. Most Insurance companies have left..premiums have risen...we need to come together and find a system that works. Obamacare didn't, this feeble attempt didn't appear as a viable replacement. Hopefully this spurns some ideas to find something better. But let's be honest, Obamacare was a disaster[/quote]

It's far from perfect but it hasn't failed. It's a success for many people.
[URL="https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/04/21/obamacare-unheralded-success/montTA45UvggSgwA0Myd8K/story.html"]https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/04/21/obamacare-unheralded-success/montTA45UvggSgwA0Myd8K/story.html[/URL]

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^ Medicaid expansion was definitely huge, so was covering pre-existing conditions. Yes premiums and deductibles are an issue, but calling the ACA as a whole a disaster is just absurd. Hopefully this idea of repealing/replacing is truly dead. Move on to re-working it.

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[quote=MTK;1168612]^ Medicaid expansion was definitely huge, so was covering pre-existing conditions. Yes premiums and deductibles are an issue, but calling the ACA as a whole a disaster is just absurd. Hopefully this idea of repealing/replacing is truly dead. Move on to re-working it.[/quote]

There's no room for grey, only black and white. It's either good or bad, there's no way it could be good for some people while bad for others.

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So how's that Obamacare repeal and replace coming along playboi?



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The hilarious part in all of it is, he actually blamed the Democrats for it not passing the House. :laughing-


I told somebody prior that he'd blame the democrats if it doesn't pass.

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He's all about the blame game. Anyone else getting tired of all this winning? lol

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[quote=Chico23231;1168598]Obamacare has already failed. Most Insurance companies have left..premiums have risen...we need to come together and find a system that works. Obamacare didn't, this feeble attempt didn't appear as a viable replacement. Hopefully this spurns some ideas to find something better. But let's be honest, Obamacare was a disaster[/quote]



There are two main issues with Obamacare. One was the mandate. The second is that it did absolutely nothing to curtail rising healthcare costs.


Obamacare isn't the reason insurance rates are rising. In fact, if you look at premiums, the rates were rising a lot faster (as a percentage) prior to Obamacare. So if anything, Obamacare slowed that down a bit. The only solution to healthcare costs is having a universal healthcare system. Every other civilized country has one. The problem is we have a bunch of greedy assholes that continue to convince their ignorant base that socialized medicine is a bad thing.

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^ Word, Medicare for all, need to make it happen

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[quote=NC_Skins;1168692]There are two main issues with Obamacare. One was the mandate. The second is that it did absolutely nothing to curtail rising healthcare costs.


Obamacare isn't the reason insurance rates are rising. In fact, if you look at premiums, the rates were rising a lot faster (as a percentage) prior to Obamacare. So if anything, Obamacare slowed that down a bit. The only solution to healthcare costs is having a universal healthcare system. Every other civilized country has one. The problem is we have a bunch of greedy assholes that continue to convince their ignorant base that socialized medicine is a bad thing.[/quote]


I do not disagree with you on any of this.

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[quote=MTK;1168693]^ Word, Medicare for all, need to make it happen[/quote]

Yup. Getting tired of the "we can't do the Canadian system because our population is much bigger" argument. The population is only going to expand from here, at least until global warming trims it 50-100 years down the road (hypothetically). So what if we have a bigger population? Find a solution that works. Somebody will get screwed in the end, if it were up to me it would be these companies that put insane markups on healthcare tech and related products. They need to be regulated. And somebody needs to do something about these companies that buy patents then jack the price up 5000%. Savvy? Yes. Literally killing people because they can't afford medication they need? Also yes.

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Total side note: I see Trump won't be throwing the first pitch. What I wouldn't GIVE to see that happen!!

It would be the most pansy thing you've ever seen.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;1168745]Total side note: I see Trump won't be throwing the first pitch. What I wouldn't GIVE to see that happen!!



It would be the most pansy thing you've ever seen.[/QUOTE]



A President punking out on throwing the first pitch to the season? That's about as anti-American as it gets. Seriously lame.