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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319151]That answers one of my questions.[/quote]

Smart person wouldn't have needed to ask the question. Plain to see you ignore the message.

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[url]https://www.foxnews.com/media/flashback-ted-koppel-predicted-cnn-ratings-toilet-without-donald-trump[/url]

Ted Koppel predicted CNN ratings 'would be in the toilet without Donald Trump'
Total-day viewership at CNN down 70 percent since Biden took office

[url]https://nypost.com/2022/08/18/brian-stelter-to-leave-cnn-reliable-sources-program-canceled/[/url]

Brian Stelter to leave CNN, ‘Reliable Sources’ program canceled


Lolololololol…carry your ass outta here. Brian Stelter has been fired!

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[quote=Chico23231;1319797][url]https://www.foxnews.com/media/flashback-ted-koppel-predicted-cnn-ratings-toilet-without-donald-trump[/url]

Ted Koppel predicted CNN ratings 'would be in the toilet without Donald Trump'
Total-day viewership at CNN down 70 percent since Biden took office

[url]https://nypost.com/2022/08/18/brian-stelter-to-leave-cnn-reliable-sources-program-canceled/[/url]

Brian Stelter to leave CNN, ‘Reliable Sources’ program canceled


Lolololololol…carry your ass outta here. Brian Stelter has been fired![/quote]

LOL, without Sean or Tucker where do you think FOX would be? JHC chico you're an idiot!

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fasw68zWQAMvBuj?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]

Quality journalism like this will be missed.

Gee, I wonder why Americans have completely lost all trust in the media?

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[quote=Chico23231;1320017][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fasw68zWQAMvBuj?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]

Quality journalism like this will be missed.

Gee, I wonder why Americans have completely lost all trust in the media?[/quote]

LOL, can't take it when they point out how stupid your golden God is? Coming from you this is funny you have no clue what the word hypocrite means do you?

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So was watching the local Tucson news station and they were reporting on the 2 AZ abortion laws on the books (SC has to decide if new or old take effect), They described both as total abortion bans that only allow abortions to save the life of the mother and left it at that.

An another way they could have described them is one law allows 98% of abortions that were previously legal but the other is almost a total abortion ban.

Absolutely blatant media bias in how they reported that story. They wanted to give the impression that both were the same, when in reality they were massively different.

Newest law regulates (saving the Life of the Mother) abortions after 15 weeks , while the older law regulates from conception.

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[quote=nonniey;1323668]So was watching the local Tucson news station and they were reporting on the 2 AZ abortion laws on the books (SC has to decide if new or old take effect), They described both as total abortion bans that only allow abortions to save the life of the mother and left it at that.

An another way they could have described them is one law allows 98% of abortions that were previously legal but the other is almost a total abortion ban.

Absolutely blatant media bias in how they reported that story. They wanted to give the impression that both were the same, when in reality they were massively different.

Newest law regulates (saving the Life of the Mother) abortions after 15 weeks , while the older law regulates from conception.[/quote]

I dont understand .. outsider looking in

I thought AZ had a 1900s era ban on all abortions. That was put on hold - injunction when roe came down ... now the republican AZ just won in court with a ruling that the old 1900s law is now good law again.

1900s law makes it a crime for anyone to perform an abortion

BUT new AZ law prohibits after 15 weeks ....

Sounds like AZ needs to decide what law is the law

I do see the irritation if you are in the "pro govt making medical decisions for women" camp as the new 15 week one is not a near total ban.

Why would you trust a local news station though? they report the weather and traffic. I wouldnt listen to them for anything of substance. They have to produce a new show every day focusing on daily topcis .. dont have time or knowledge to do deep dive reporting.

Local news trying to do serious reporting .. god bless em.

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funny quote I did see

"We applaud the Court for upholding the will of the .... legislature!"

Did AZ have and then pull the idea of allowing the citizens to vote on abortion .. after "we the people" spoke with their votes in Kansas?

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Ducey contends it will supersede the territorial statute. But Sen. Nancy Barto, R-Phoenix, who wrote the new legislation, said it specifically did not repeal the more stringent territorial law.

The governor said he expects the issue will have to be hashed out in court.

[url]https://tucson.com/news/local/abortion-measure-fails-to-make-arizona-ballot/article_d70ded6e-fdf5-11ec-a3ea-0370c5336edc.html[/url]

This is beyond the "media bias" you pointed out .. more like media incompetence imo.

But .. sounds like that old absolute ban is on the books until the courts decide and its chilling effect is that abortion providers in AZ have suspended operations.

[B]real world effect and bottom line --- arizona has an absolute ban on abortions[/B]

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Sunny, AZ is under the old law until final (full??) court decisions on which law should be applicable. I would think (not being a lawyer) that the new law should take precedence. (Matter of fact I think the ruling she made was based on fact the new law had not taken effect when she ruled - now that it has/was supposed to take effect (1 day after her ruling) one would think that is the new law that should be in place. But there is a major difference between the 2 unlike what the local news startion was implying.

[url]https://www.12news.com/article/news/politics/legal-expert-questions-ruling-that-revived-arizonas-158-year-old-abortion-ban/75-8c2eeedf-75f6-49ce-9feb-05a909a31a44[/url]

edit I see you already looked it up.

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WTF is Wrong with People?

[B]HuffPost
A Sandy Hook Harasser Desecrated A Child's Grave. Another Threatened To Dig It Up.[/B]

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/sandy-hook-harasser-desecrated-childs-211757421.html[/url]

HuffPost
A Sandy Hook Harasser Desecrated A Child's Grave. Another Threatened To Dig It Up.
Sebastian Murdock
Tue, October 4, 2022 at 5:17 PM
After conspiracy theorist Alex Jones repeatedly lied that one of America’s most deadly school shootings was staged, parents of one victim said they got letters threatening to desecrate their child’s grave.

One person who sent a letter to Mark and Jackie Barden, whose 7-year-old son Daniel was killed in the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, claimed to have urinated on the child’s grave. In another letter, someone threatened to dig up Daniel’s grave to prove he didn’t exist, his parents testified in Jones’ trial on Tuesday.

Daniel did exist. He died along with 19 other children and six adults in the shooting and is now one of the subjects of a defamation trial against Jones, who used his platform Infowars to spread the sick lie that the kids had never died and that their parents were simply actors.

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Ghislaine Maxwell gave her first interview since sentencing and made 3 comments;

- Meeting Epstein was the biggest mistake of her life;
- Prince Andrew paid a heavy price for his friendship with her;
- Trump wishing her well meant a lot to her

Guess which one of the 3 above Fox News DID NOT include in its report of the interview?

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/us/ghislaine-maxwell-says-she-feels-so-bad-prince-andrew-first-interview-since-20-year-prison-sentence[/url]

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Democrats who run the Congressional Hispanic Caucus (CHC) have blocked a freshman Latina Republican lawmaker from joining the group.

Mayra Flores, who flipped a long-held Democratic House seat along the U.S.-Mexico border earlier this year, said she was refused admission by the CHC because of her party affiliation.

"As the first Mexican-born American Congresswoman, I thought the Hispanic Caucus would be open to working together," said Flores. "This denial once again proves a bias towards conservative Latinas that don’t fit their narrative or ideology."

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/latina-republican-blocked-joining-congressional-hispanic-caucus[/url]

There is a democrat CHC and a republican CHC ...

How dare democrats not allow her to join their democrat hispanic caucus!

Dear new republican Flores ... you got 14,799 votes in a special election in which republicans pumped millions into your campaign vs a last second Dem nominee who spent $0 campaigning

Enjoy being a House Rep for a few more weeks when elections take place.

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MSNBC Tiffany Cross…see ya!

[url]https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/msnbc-tiffany-cross-departure-tv-news-1235423317/[/url]

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Jimmy Kimmel Told ABC He’d Quit if Execs Stopped Him From Making Trump Jokes: ‘They Knew I Was Serious’

[url]https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/jimmy-kimmel-threatened-abc-quit-show-block-trump-jokes-1235422576/[/url]

Jimmy Kimmel revealed on the most recent episode of Sticher’s “Naked Lunch” podcast that he threatened to quit his ABC talk show, “Jimmy Kimmel Live!,” when ABC executives expressed apprehension over him telling jokes about Donald Trump. It appears the execs once spoke to Kimmel about laying off Trump in order to not alienate Republican viewers. Kimmel said ABC execs were right in their apprehension, as he estimates he lost around half of his audience due to Trump jokes.

“There was one time, right around the beginning of this whole Trump thing… maybe not quite [eight years ago],” Kimmel said when asked if ABC ever expressed concern to him about attacking Trump. “I said listen, I get it, you’re right. I have lost half of my fanbase, maybe more. Ten years ago, among Republicans I was the most popular talk show. At least according to the research they did.”

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Adam Carolla > Jimmy Kimmel

Sad, but true

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Not many people are less funny than Adam Carolla.

Gilbert Godfried maybe, but he was mostly just annoying.

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[url]https://wtop.com/national/2022/11/cnbc-axes-shepard-smiths-nightly-newscast-after-two-years/[/url]

See ya Shepherd Smith!

Jake Tapper also lost his primetime show this week…along with Tiffany Cross outright fired from MSNBC.

Think folks getting a lil tired of the fake news

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[quote=Chico23231;1327753]
[B]Think folks getting a lil tired of the fake news[/B][/quote]

Except for you, you post it all the time.

[url]https://www.npr.org/2021/11/21/1052837157/fox-resignations-tucker-carlson-patriot-purge-documentary[/url]

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/media/chris-wallace-departure-fox-news-channel[/url]

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/shepard-smith-resigns-from-fox-news/2019/10/11/737953b8-ec61-11e9-85c0-85a098e47b37_story.html[/url]

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While we're on the subject of fake news.

[url]https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1587591299586134016?s=20&t=ykAOqL8-ISpy8P3HRDEl7g[/url]

[url]https://twitter.com/SundaeDivine/status/1587598570521239553[/url]

[url]https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1588059555031678977[/url]

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I’ll tell you what media bias is, my wife telling me I’m six inches when I think I’m 8

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1327753][url]https://wtop.com/national/2022/11/cnbc-axes-shepard-smiths-nightly-newscast-after-two-years/[/url]

See ya Shepherd Smith!

Jake Tapper also lost his primetime show this week…along with Tiffany Cross outright fired from MSNBC.

Think folks getting a lil tired of the fake news[/QUOTE]


Dude. You are literally a mouth piece for fake news.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1327772]I’ll tell you what media bias is, my wife telling me I’m six inches when I think I’m 8[/QUOTE]


LMAO

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Matt Taibbi, well known liberal reporter nails it again:

Be it Resolved: Don't Trust Mainstream Media
My opening remarks for the Munk Debates in Toronto tonight

[url]https://taibbi.substack.com/p/be-it-resolved-dont-trust-mainstream?r=iu56&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post[/url]

National Surveys on the media have long killed the “this is a ring wing only narrative”, Matt Taibbi brings some receipts

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[quote=Chico23231;1330815]Matt Taibbi, well known liberal reporter nails it again:

Be it Resolved: Don't Trust Mainstream Media
My opening remarks for the Munk Debates in Toronto tonight

[url]https://taibbi.substack.com/p/be-it-resolved-dont-trust-mainstream?r=iu56&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post[/url]

National Surveys on the media have long killed the “this is a ring wing only narrative”, Matt Taibbi brings some receipts[/quote]

When Fox had success targeting suburban and rural, mostly white, mostly older conservatives – the late Fox News chief Roger Ailes infamously described his audience as “55 to dead” – other companies soon followed suit.

Now everyone does it. Whether it’s Fox, or MSNBC, or CNN, or the Washington Post, nearly all Western media outlets are in the demographic-hunting business. This may be less true in Canada, where there’s a stronger public media tradition, but in the U.S., it’s standard.

Call it the “audience-optimization” model: instead of starting with a story and following the facts, you start with what pleases your audience, and work backward to the story. In this system, the overwhelming majority of national media organizations cater to one “side” or the other. For instance, according to a Pew Center survey from a few years ago, 93% of Fox’s audience votes Republican, while in an exactly mirroring phenomenon, MSNBC’s audience is 95% Democratic.

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From your article .. pretty straight forward opinion piece really.Main stream media is mostly "political entertainment" at this point.

Anyone who unconditionally believes what Tucker Carlson or Don Lemon tell you ... they are just enjoying their daily trip to their confirmation bias watering hole.

Conservatives watch Carlson so they are reassured they are right and the other s are wrong.

Same for the left.

When I read articles I just look for direct quotes and objective blurbs in there.

I dont read many "opinion" pieces like this. I dont need someones interpretation of facts to be snow balled into my mouth like some baby bird.

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You could have put this is the common ground thread -- mainstream media is bias.

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Meat potatoes from the article:

In the zeal to “hold Trump accountable,” or oppose figures like Vladimir Putin, ethical guardrails have been tossed out. Silent edits have become common. Serious accusations are made without calling people for comment. Reporters get too cozy with politicians, and as a result report information either without attribution at all or sourced to unnamed officials or “people familiar with the matter.” Like scientists, journalists should be able to reproduce each other’s work in the lab. With too many anonymous sources, this becomes impossible.

Normalization of bad ethics. That’s it, that’s the story

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[quote=Chico23231;1330823]Meat potatoes from the article:

In the zeal to “hold Trump accountable,” or oppose figures like Vladimir Putin, ethical guardrails have been tossed out. Silent edits have become common. Serious accusations are made without calling people for comment. Reporters get too cozy with politicians, and as a result report information either without attribution at all or sourced to unnamed officials or “people familiar with the matter.” Like scientists, journalists should be able to reproduce each other’s work in the lab. With too many anonymous sources, this becomes impossible.

Normalization of bad ethics. That’s it, that’s the story[/quote]

I take from this substack "all media is bias" ... your take "left media is bias"

C'est la vie.

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[quote=SunnySide;1330827]I take from this substack "all media is bias" ... your take "left media is bias"

C'est la vie.[/quote]

Absolutely as most journalists are leftist. The problem in the argument now is I can actually go to Journalists social media and verify their bias. Prior to social media, you “felt” there was bias, now it facts from them directly. I’m not talking clown shows like huff, slate, salon, daily beast, Atlantic…I’m talking the major news organizations.

That’s the change, that’s the meat and the potatoes

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[url]https://twitter.com/WeAreCanProud/status/1598334823591866369[/url]

From the Munk debate, outstanding takedown of the mainstream media in Canada

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How it started, the NYT lying as always and ignoring facts in this case:

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjzznGlWAAAQwFI?format=png&name=900x900[/IMG]



How it ended, Superintendents and staff with multiple indictments for lying and covering up rape by a tranny student:

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fjzzu07X0AIS2yD?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG]

Putting kids in harms way not giving a shit

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[quote=Chico23231;1331922]How it started, the NYT lying as always and ignoring facts in this case:

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjzznGlWAAAQwFI?format=png&name=900x900[/IMG]



How it ended, Superintendents and staff with multiple indictments for lying and covering up rape by a tranny student:
[/quote]
Can you fucking read your own shit , you posted a pic of an opinion piece, it fucking says so. You ignore facts all the time!

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[quote=Chico23231;1330836]Absolutely as most journalists are leftist. The problem in the argument now is I can actually go to Journalists social media and verify their bias. Prior to social media, you “felt” there was bias, now it facts from them directly. I’m not talking clown shows like huff, slate, salon, daily beast, Atlantic…I’m talking the major news organizations.

That’s the change, that’s the meat and the potatoes[/quote]

[IMG]https://ellebeaublogger.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/billy-madison.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Giantone;1331932]Can you fucking read your own shit , you posted a pic of an opinion piece, it fucking says so. You ignore facts all the time![/quote]

Which is based on lies and alternate facts not reality. She ignores many facts as well.

Afterwards, Goldman..one of the biggest frauds at the NYT..was then invited on multiple news shows on nbc and msnbc to spew her bullshit.

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[quote=Chico23231;1331922]How it started, the NYT lying as always and ignoring facts in this case:

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjzznGlWAAAQwFI?format=png&name=900x900[/IMG]



How it ended, Superintendents and staff with multiple indictments for lying and covering up rape by a tranny student:

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fjzzu07X0AIS2yD?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG]

Putting kids in harms way not giving a shit[/quote]

I think you need to quit demonizing transgender people. The kid who committed these crimes isn't transgender. Everyone knows that. It is a rich Loudon County kid that is trying to get a way with shit.

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You guys need to quit questioning someone identity everytime you get a story that doesn’t paint a good picture ala the Colorado gay bar shooter. This kid was gender fluid and the bathroom policy allowed the setting for the assaults. When questioned by the father of the daughter assaulted, they lied and covered it up…as well as attempted to silence the daughters father.

This whole movement is not organic and it’s cult like spurned by social media. I keep reading about mental illness crisis with kids…long before Covid came…this hasn’t helped.

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So bathrooms are the problem? People act like we haven't had unisex bathrooms for decades. I am shocked at the number of people who have never been to a gas station. You never had friends have sex in a bathroom back in the 90s during school? There is no way this kid would pull a student into a boys bathroom right? If we stopped having unisex bathrooms then all our problems would go away.

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[quote=Chico23231;1331943]You guys need to quit questioning someone identity everytime you get a story that doesn’t paint a good picture .[/quote]

[IMG]https://i.imgflip.com/5srq3d.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Chico23231;1331943]You guys need to quit questioning someone identity everytime you get a story that doesn’t paint a good picture ala the Colorado gay bar shooter..[/quote]

[IMG]https://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/4457931.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1331953]So bathrooms are the problem? People act like we haven't had unisex bathrooms for decades. I am shocked at the number of people who have never been to a gas station. You never had friends have sex in a bathroom back in the 90s during school? There is no way this kid would pull a student into a boys bathroom right? If we stopped having unisex bathrooms then all our problems would go away.[/quote]

Am I the problem? No, it's the unisex bathrooms that are the problem.

Chico your irrational hatred of the trannies is showing. Let 'em live their best life, they ain't hurting nobody.

#MakeDrunkShittingInGasStationBathroomsGreatAgain

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Joe Biden is a phony, power hungry, fucking liar. He will do or say whatever it fucking takes to get/keep power. He is a proven racist and he doesn't actually believe in gay marriage. But he will say he does now because that's what keeps him in power. Biden is a fucking grifting, non-principled, shithead. Joe Biden is the definition of everything that is wrong with American politics. He's a dickhead.

[YT]1eQBen4Ugy4[/YT]

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I had to look way too long to get the above clip that I already knew existed.

Put "biden on gay marriage 2008" into a Google search. All you get is a bunch of results about the Same-Sex Marriage act signed today. Nothing about what he said in 2008.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1331987]Joe Biden is a phony, power hungry, fucking liar. He will do or say whatever it fucking takes to get/keep power. He is a proven racist and he doesn't actually believe in gay marriage. But he will say he does now because that's what keeps him in power. Biden is a fucking grifting, non-principled, shithead. Joe Biden is the definition of everything that is wrong with American politics. He's a dickhead.[/quote]

You should have learned by now your late night drinking and posting makes you look like a fool .




Funny thing is you never said anything like this about trump who has proven he is all of those things and worse, Biden is not . Go sleep it off.