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No Shit Sherlock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[url]https://www.newsweek.com/trump-afraid-visit-war-zone-combat-people-want-kill-him-report-1224081[/url]

President Donald Trump has told aides and White House officials that he was afraid to visit U.S. troops in war zones, because he didn't back the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan.

“He’s never been interested in going,” one unnamed former senior White House official told The Washington Post. “He’s afraid of those situations. He’s afraid people want to kill him.”


............of course people want to kill him, he's the president of the United States! :banghead:

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[QUOTE=Back2RFK;1208364]The people in the military I know love Trump and when I spent the day at the Pentagon this past summer no one seems to have like the previous administration.[/QUOTE]



Funny how we see what we want to see isn’t it?

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[quote=punch it in;1208562]Funny how we see what we want to see isn’t it?[/quote]

:laughing2

Whew, that’s rich over on this side of the board.

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[quote=Chico23231;1208565]:laughing2

Whew, that’s rich over on this side of the board.[/quote]

I read this and I though , pot, kettle ,black.:doh:

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[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/ocasio-cortez-backs-pelosi-speaker-dem-rebellion-falters-n939086[/url]

What a fuckin sham and a joke. I see someone has already caved and jumped headfirst into the swamp.

What back room deal did she make? Guess we will find out shortly. Lolol

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[quote=Chico23231;1209406][url]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/ocasio-cortez-backs-pelosi-speaker-dem-rebellion-falters-n939086[/url]

What a fuckin sham and a joke. I see someone has already caved and jumped headfirst into the swamp.

What back room deal did she make? Guess we will find out shortly. Lolol[/quote]

I'm not happy about it either but first impression is she tried to see if there was any opponent that could realistically beat Pelosi and found that support for it isn't what it seems. In which case you have two moves: Fight this thing to the death (and waste time on infighting when we all know infighting will only hurt their cause) or get it over with and focus on unifying the party. If the support's not there it ain't there.

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Speaking of shams and jokes, I'm really glad the admin decided to [URL="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/major-trump-administration-climate-report-says-damage-is-%E2%80%98intensifying-across-the-country%E2%80%99/ar-BBQ1DIZ?li=BBnbcA1"]release that 4 year climate report[/URL] yesterday when there wouldn't be anything else to draw people's attention away.

What's that you say? The WaPo is a joke and totally uncredible? Fine. Let's go right to the source:

[url]https://nca2018.globalchange.gov/[/url]

Oh look, they even made a convenient "Summary Findings" tab to make it easier for us non-science lovers.

[url]https://nca2018.globalchange.gov/#sf-1[/url]

Let's pull a quick paragraph to see if there's anything we can understand. How about the first one?

[quote=science bitches]
1. Communities
Climate change creates new risks and exacerbates existing vulnerabilities in communities across the United States, presenting growing challenges to human health and safety, quality of life, and the rate of economic growth.
[B]The impacts of climate change are already being felt in communities across the country. More frequent and intense extreme weather and climate-related events, as well as changes in average climate conditions, are expected to continue to damage infrastructure, ecosystems, and social systems that provide essential benefits to communities. [/B]Future climate change is expected to further disrupt many areas of life, exacerbating existing challenges to prosperity posed by aging and deteriorating infrastructure, stressed ecosystems, and economic inequality. Impacts within and across regions will not be distributed equally. People who are already vulnerable, including lower-income and other marginalized communities, have lower capacity to prepare for and cope with extreme weather and climate-related events and are expected to experience greater impacts. Prioritizing adaptation actions for the most vulnerable populations would contribute to a more equitable future within and across communities. Global action to significantly cut greenhouse gas emissions can substantially reduce climate-related risks and increase opportunities for these populations in the longer term.

[/quote]

Really, this is my major problem with the Trump admin. Everything else he does, all the executive actions he signs, everything he does without going through Congress can be reversed. But loosening laws and allowing the major polluting companies free reign to do whatever they want is only speeding up this runaway train we call global warming.

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[quote=Chico23231;1209406][url]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/ocasio-cortez-backs-pelosi-speaker-dem-rebellion-falters-n939086[/url]

What a fuckin sham and a joke. I see someone has already caved and jumped headfirst into the swamp.

What back room deal did she make? Guess we will find out shortly. Lolol[/quote]

Seriously,you back trump and have the nerve to question any one else about
"back room politics"???? Chico your bias is showing............again.

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Of course

[URL="https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-responds-to-climate-change-report-multibillion-economic-impact-2018-11"]Trump says he doesn't believe his own administration's report on the economic impact of climate change[/URL]

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Turning into a Bad week for trump.


[url]https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/experts-agree-robert-mueller-just-played-donald-trump-like-a-fiddle/[/url]


President Donald Trump‘s longtime lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty on Thursday to making several false statements in front of Congress. During an early morning appearance at a downtown Manhattan courthouse, Cohen admitted to making intentionally false statements about several matters related to Trump’s business dealings. This turn of events suggests that Robert Mueller intentionally leveled a surprise attack against the 45th president of the United States.

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It’s all going to come out. He went bankrupt in the 90’s with his racist daddys money, because he is a terrible business man. Been hiding his dirty russian money since, and the fool thought politics was a good idea. Lmao. What a dumbass. His ignorant base can cry all they want, but the dominoes are starting to fall.

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[quote=punch it in;1210107]It’s all going to come out. He went bankrupt in the 90’s with his racist daddys money, because he is a terrible business man. Been hiding his dirty russian money since, and the fool thought politics was a good idea. Lmao. What a dumbass. His ignorant base can cry all they want, but the dominoes are starting to fall.[/quote]



If Cohn links him to business in Moscow he's done!After trump sent written answers he's soooo done.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1210112]If Cohn links him to business in Moscow he's done!After trump sent written answers he's soooo done.[/QUOTE]



I cannot wait to never hear his punk ass voice again. Lol

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34 days until squirmy little Devin Nunes has no power anymore and Mueller gets his hands on the rest of the documents he needs. As if he doesn’t already have enough. Lol.

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Anyone notice how all the Christmas trees in the White House are Red???


[IMG]https://www.washingtonian.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DSC_4443a.jpg[/IMG]

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Even I will admit that it's Buzzfeed so I will take it with a grain of salt but if this is true . Trumps is done ,yes collusion .

[url]https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/anthonycormier/the-trump-organization-planned-to-give-vladimir-putin-the[/url]

The Trump Organization Planned To Give Vladimir Putin The $50 Million Penthouse In Trump Tower Moscow
During the presidential campaign, Michael Cohen discussed the matter with a representative of Putin’s press secretary, according to two US sources.


President Donald Trump’s company planned to give a $50 million penthouse at Trump Tower Moscow to Russian President Vladimir Putin as the company negotiated the luxury real estate development during the 2016 campaign, according to four people, one of them the originator of the plan.

Two US law enforcement officials told BuzzFeed News that Michael Cohen, Trump’s personal lawyer at the time, discussed the idea with a representative of Dmitry Peskov, Putin’s press secretary.

The Trump Tower Moscow plan is at the heart of a new plea agreement by Cohen, who led the negotiations to bring a gleaming, 100-story building to the Russian capital. Cohen acknowledged in court that he had lied to Congress about the plan in order to protect Trump and his presidential campaign.

The revelation that representatives of the Trump Organization planned to forge direct financial links with the leader of a hostile nation at the height of the campaign raises fresh questions about President Trump's relationship with the Kremlin. The plan never went anywhere because the tower deal ultimately fizzled, and it is not clear whether Trump knew of the intention to give away the penthouse. But Cohen said in court documents that he regularly briefed Trump and his family on the Moscow negotiations.

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Trumpettes have been awfully quiet around here lately.

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[quote=MTK;1210230]Trumpettes have been awfully quiet around here lately.[/quote]

Don't worry, I'm sure they'll find a reason to say Cohen was acting independently. Obviously Cohen was planning on building a luxury skyscraper in Russia and was going to personally give Putin the $50 mil condo as a gift for Cohen's own interests. He's trying to pin Trump as the fall guy. Sad!

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ0IRKwWwAAuBrP.jpg:large[/IMG]

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[quote=MTK;1210230]Trumpettes have been awfully quiet around here lately.[/quote]

It not that Im a Trump supporter, but its just a point of exhaustion. Its like a new nafta agreement, new bump stock ban, criminal justice reform...none of these significant things make headlines and media doesn't not wants to talk about it.

So lets talk about the outrage of over how the First lady decorated the white house.

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[quote=Giantone;1210248][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ0IRKwWwAAuBrP.jpg:large[/IMG][/quote]

lol...hilarious twisting of stats here, but Ill side with Milton Friedman and the guy in the picture.

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[quote=Chico23231;1210249]It not that Im a Trump supporter, but its just a point of exhaustion. Its like a new nafta agreement, [B]new bump stock ban[/B], [B]criminal justice reform[/B]...none of these significant things make headlines and media doesn't not wants to talk about it.

So lets talk about the outrage of over how the First lady decorated the white house.[/quote]

Whoa whoa whoa, where did I miss hearing about these laws that are going into effect? Last I heard the bump stock ban never took off. And there's been talk about CJ reform but nothing has happened [I]that I've heard of[/I] yet.

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[quote=Chico23231;1210249]It not that Im a Trump supporter.[/quote]


Seriously all due respect but bullshit! All your postings say different!

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[QUOTE=MTK;1210230]Trumpettes have been awfully quiet around here lately.[/QUOTE]



I am sure C Red is working overtime to come up with good reasons or excuses or whatever. Alot like the Whitehouse. And Chico the new nafta agreement isn’t even in effect technically and can we see how it plays out before we party down in the rose garden? Also what reform and ban are you even referring too? Man this guy tweets on the shitter about something and it is suddenly the fucking Emancipation Proclamation.
As for Christmas at the whitehouse that always reminds me of how Trump said over and over again how Obama wouldn’t say merry Christmas lol. Even though i think at last count he said it over 600 times on tv over his 8 years. Im so sick of his divisive skank ass sleazy lies. #muellertime

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1210249]It not that Im a Trump supporter, but its just a point of exhaustion. Its like a new nafta agreement, new bump stock ban, criminal justice reform...none of these significant things make headlines and media doesn't not wants to talk about it.



So lets talk about the outrage of over how the First lady decorated the white house.[/QUOTE]



Um....stop acting like the Russia investigation is small potatoes and comparing it to that money grabbing slut decorating the whitehouse.

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These days sure are long gone huh

[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2018/12/01/george-hw-bush-left-note-bill-clinton-its-an-artifact-political-humility/?utm_term=.8dd018fd6446"]George H.W. Bush's letter to Bill Clinton[/URL]

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[quote=punch it in;1210282]I am sure C Red is working overtime to come up with good reasons or excuses or whatever. Alot like the Whitehouse. And Chico the new nafta agreement isn’t even in effect technically and can we see how it plays out before we party down in the rose garden? Also what reform and ban are you even referring too? Man this guy tweets on the shitter about something and it is suddenly the fucking Emancipation Proclamation.
As for Christmas at the whitehouse that always reminds me of how Trump said over and over again how Obama wouldn’t say merry Christmas lol. Even though i think at last count he said it over 600 times on tv over his 8 years. Im so sick of his divisive skank ass sleazy lies. #muellertime[/quote]

no excuse, I said I was sick of the bipolar nature of these threads, and I was quitting. If you check, I'm pretty much done on the warpath as well. I know my beliefs, know what I am and what I'm not, don't need to spend half my time on this board trying to explain what nearly half the country has voted for, to this board's members who are part of the other half.

I don't think I posted a comment on this side since right after the election, and I don't plan on posting any more.

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Great to see the people of France burning and destroying everything possible in response to the illegal fuel tax. When the government only answer is to tax...the burning, protesting, and violence should begin immediately. Bravo

[url]https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-protests-in-france/10576834[/url]

Whew not a good year for ex Obama cronies, socialist justin Trudeau who bent the knee to trump in the nafta deal and macron who is widely unpopular and facing a super lit France.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1210425]no excuse, I said I was sick of the bipolar nature of these threads, and I was quitting. If you check, I'm pretty much done on the warpath as well. I know my beliefs, know what I am and what I'm not, don't need to spend half my time on this board trying to explain what nearly half the country has voted for, to this board's members who are part of the other half.

I don't think I posted a comment on this side since right after the election, and I don't plan on posting any more.[/quote]

It's a shame Cred, but do what you feel. Also if I could just point out one slight inaccuracy in your post, half this country didn't vote for Trump. Half this country doesn't give a shit about politics, and the other half is split evenly between left and right. Nitpicking aside, I hope you find the happiness you seek avoiding this pit of misery. Dilly dilly.

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[quote=MTK;1210416]These days sure are long gone huh

[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2018/12/01/george-hw-bush-left-note-bill-clinton-its-an-artifact-political-humility/?utm_term=.8dd018fd6446"]George H.W. Bush's letter to Bill Clinton[/URL][/quote]

Sadly yes.

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In October, the US economy added 250,000 jobs in October, which significantly exceeded expectations. The unemployment rate remained at 3.7%, a 49-year low. [B]Hispanic unemployment reached its lowest rate ever, at 4.4%. [/B]

more big wins

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[url]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-france-protests/frances-macron-learns-the-hard-way-green-taxes-carry-political-risks-idUSKBN1O10AQ[/url]

France's Macron learns the hard way: green taxes carry political risks

But Bernie said Europeans love taxes???


Macron has been an absolute failure...wow.

Worst rioting in 50 years in Paris and France...No articles or coverage on CNN? Strange...


[url]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/france-startup-president-europe_us_595190cde4b05c37bb78df04[/url]

France’s ‘Startup President’ Is Just What Europe Needs To Reboot....

"President Macron breathes fresh air into the stagnating cause of European unity. Renovating the European project by bringing a new dynamism to a fading dream is the only way to secure a critical role for the West in a post-American world in the throes transition. Macron’s success in this endeavor would be a success for all of us.


Let’s hope his winning streak continues."


LOLOLOLOLOL

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Found this in 2 seconds on the front page at [URL="https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/03/europe/paris-yellow-vest-protests-intl/index.html"]CNN[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1210518]Found this in 2 seconds on the front page at [URL="https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/03/europe/paris-yellow-vest-protests-intl/index.html"]CNN[/URL][/quote]

yeah, haven't seen anything on the front page...right now there is a blurb of Macron approaching the Saudi Prince on the left.

But you would think the worst riots in 50 years in Paris would garner more attention.

But also the article you link is rife with fake news which seems to protect Macron...from the article:

The protests were initially conceived in response to rising fuel prices. The cost of diesel has surged 16% this year from an average 1.24 euros ($1.41) per liter to 1.48 euros ($1.69), even hitting 1.53 euros in October, according to UFIP, France's oil industry federation.

The price hike is largely caused by a leap in the wholesale price of oil, with Brent crude oil -- a benchmark for worldwide oil purchases -- increasing by more than 20% in the first half of 2018 from around $60 a barrel to a peak of $86.07 in early October.

Macron has borne the brunt of the demonstrators' anger instead of OPEC for reducing oil production, or the US for imposing tariffs on Iran, which crippled oil exports.

Many protesters are angry with the president for extending the environmental policies that were first implemented by former President François Hollande.




This is clearly skewed, biased, uninformed and false. Its actually hilarious it attempts to shift blame to Hollande at the very end. Hilarious and pathetic.

This has nothing to do with OPEC or US tariffs...The protestors aren't in the streets to do rising Oil cost...first and foremost, this is about a green tax plan by Macron on petroleum. This is the final straw which launched these violent protest...This is in a series of poor Macron economic policies which have thrown the country into violence.

Its interesting that CNN is deflecting, attempting to change a narrative. Hilarity and why CNN is considered fake news.

This is the best summation about why and how:

[url]https://www.npr.org/2018/12/03/672862353/who-are-frances-yellow-vest-protesters-and-what-do-they-want[/url]

Absolutely zero to do with Oil prices, tariffs, Trump and previous French presidents. Once again CNN is clearly fake news.

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[quote=MTK;1210518]Found this in 2 seconds on the front page at [URL="https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/03/europe/paris-yellow-vest-protests-intl/index.html"]CNN[/URL][/quote]

LOL, CNN. This should go over well.

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Seems the gist of it is "lower class citizens are protesting the fuel tax because it's another squeeze on their already-thin pockets. Anarchists from the far-left and far-right are using the protest as an opportunity to destroy shit and cause chaos." Am I missing anything Chico?

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[quote=mooby;1211230]Seems the gist of it is "lower class citizens are protesting the fuel tax because it's another squeeze on their already-thin pockets. Anarchists from the far-left and far-right are using the protest as an opportunity to destroy shit and cause chaos." Am I missing anything Chico?[/quote]

A lot actually...largest riots in 50 years....deadly riots...response to illegal fuel tax...cost of living standards have risen sharply since Macron administration...70% of the French support the yellow vest protest..people are now calling for resignation

Most importantly, Macron has been a failure since the media’s embrace. It’s a shame what’s happened to him and Justin Trudeau recently. Trudeau had to bend that knee at the nafta signing...lol

Welp look like macron has tucked tail:[url]http://fortune.com/2018/12/04/macron-fuel-tax-protests/[/url]

Oh...and that cnn article...pretty good example of fake new, huh?

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I was just referring to why people were protesting. Good for them, obviously the majority of people didn't want it and they came together to oppose it. Wish this country was capable of the same. Instead party line bias determines your opinion on everything.

Also I didn't read the CNN article, and I have no desire to read it either. We already had this convo. By reading it, and sharing it, you are doing exactly what they want.

Fake news will stop selling when people start ignoring it.

BTW I'm inclined to let you have your triumphs with the economy doing so well, unemployment being the lowest ever, etc. because the only people in the Trump org. that haven't been indicted is the family itself. You should start preparing yourself for that. Surely there's an angle where false charges are being made up on false evidence because registered Republicans who are actually Dems can't stand seeing a rich white man succeed.

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[quote=Chico23231;1211235]A lot actually...largest riots in 50 years....deadly riots...response to illegal fuel tax...cost of living standards have risen sharply since Macron administration...70% of the French support the yellow vest protest..people are now calling for resignation

Most importantly, Macron has been a failure since the media’s embrace. It’s a shame what’s happened to him and Justin Trudeau recently. Trudeau had to bend that knee at the nafta signing...lol

Welp look like macron has tucked tail:[url]http://fortune.com/2018/12/04/macron-fuel-tax-protests/[/url]

Oh...and that cnn article...pretty good example of fake new, huh?[/quote]



Chico your bias is so obvious against CNN you have to reach out to Paris to justify it. Pretty amusing actually. Your mad that CNN didn't cover it to your expectations well, there were a few things going on in the news that maybe someone at CNN thought were more import to the CNN viewers. Like the death of a former President,the uptick of the Mueller investigations things that matter to people in this country. Is what's going on there important ,yes, but you have taken the boy crying wolf to a new level.

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[quote=mooby;1211236]

Fake news will stop selling when people start ignoring it.

...............because the only people in the Trump org. that haven't been indicted is the family itself. You should start preparing yourself for that. Surely there's an angle where false charges are being made up on false evidence because registered Republicans who are actually Dems can't stand seeing a rich white man succeed.[/quote]


LOL, oh yeah,Donnie Jr is going to take a perp walk and so might Ivanka.