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Chief X_Phackter 04-18-2024 11:37 AM

Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
 
I just wonder why they feel that way is better than the traditional one-on-one visits. Sure it's 'fun'...but is it as or more productive, and why?

MTK 04-18-2024 12:10 PM

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They also had one on one meetings with them.

[quote]"We had as many as a dozen players come in on the same day so we could see them work together..

Bringing in a lot of guys at one time for a draft visit is an efficient way for your staff to get to know them" ~ Bill Belichick #PMSLive[/quote]

sdskinsfan2001 04-18-2024 12:23 PM

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Man, Snyder has us traumatized for life. This is a whole restaurant of nothing-burgers.

Every team does things differently. Let's give it one year (at least) before poo-pooing all over everything.

MTK 04-18-2024 12:28 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1361278]Man, Snyder has us traumatized for life. This is a whole restaurant of nothing-burgers.

Every team does things differently. Let's give it one year (at least) before poo-pooing all over everything.[/quote]

Yeah it’s painful to see Twitter blowing up today led by the likes of Karen Florio

MTK 04-18-2024 02:25 PM

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Peters on 4 QBs in at same time: "What's cool is we got to see them all together in a group setting. They all got a lot of time individually with coaches & with us. They were staggered coming in, too. It was a great blend of that & working everyone together in a fun environment."

sdskinsfan2001 04-18-2024 02:45 PM

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[quote=MTK;1361284]Peters on 4 QBs in at same time: "What's cool is we got to see them all together in a group setting. They all got a lot of time individually with coaches & with us. They were staggered coming in, too. It was a great blend of that & working everyone together in a fun environment."[/quote]

If I was one of those QB's, that actually seems fun. Ideally you will be competing against all of these guys for 10+ years. Would be fun to get to meet them and hangout.

Chief X_Phackter 04-18-2024 06:22 PM

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All sounds good. I don't remember teams doing that, but obviously it's been a thing. Seems like it went well.

That Guy 04-18-2024 07:25 PM

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I like the 4 QBs they brought in, outside that, not much of a story. not related really, but I'd love to see each of them doing john gruden film study type interviews.

sdskinsfan2001 04-18-2024 08:35 PM

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On PFN, I proposed trading all of our picks in 2025 to the Rams for Pick No. 19 and was rejected. They really fucked up that trade machine on their site. Really, that's a bad look on the whole simulation as a whole, because, the Bears would trade the No. 1 overall pick for that haul.

nonniey 04-18-2024 10:16 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1361289]On PFN, I proposed trading all of our picks in 2025 to the Rams for Pick No. 19 and was rejected. They really fucked up that trade machine on their site. Really, that's a bad look on the whole simulation as a whole, because, the Bears would trade the No. 1 overall pick for that haul.[/quote]

All our picks next year come out to about 945 pts on the pick value chart or pick 17 in this years draft. Pick 19 is worth 875 pts.

mooby 04-19-2024 06:58 AM

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[quote=MTK;1361277]They also had one on one meetings with them.[/quote]

This whole thing is much ado about nothing.

Daniels agent acting like the vibe was all fucked up is absurd.

Idc who they pick - whoever it is I will support them. But this thing is a big nothing burger and it only makes Daniels and his agent look bad.

mooby 04-19-2024 06:59 AM

Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1361278]Man, Snyder has us traumatized for life. This is a whole restaurant of nothing-burgers.

Every team does things differently. Let's give it one year (at least) before poo-pooing all over everything.[/quote]

I'm late af but glad to know we're on the same page lol. Can we not pretend like the old method was working?

skinsfaninok 04-19-2024 07:07 AM

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[quote=MTK;1361279]Yeah it’s painful to see Twitter blowing up today led by the likes of Karen Florio[/quote]

He blocked me lolol

Chico23231 04-19-2024 07:42 AM

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[quote=mooby;1361292]This whole thing is much ado about nothing.

[B]Daniels agent acting like the vibe was all fucked up is absurd[/B].

Idc who they pick - whoever it is I will support them. But this thing is a big nothing burger and it only makes Daniels and his agent look bad.[/quote]

That was weird and kinda weak, especially since staff picked and met with Daniels at the airport.

punch it in 04-19-2024 11:03 AM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1361279]Yeah it’s painful to see Twitter blowing up today led by the likes of Karen Florio[/QUOTE]


What a fraud he is. Karen Florio lolol

nonniey 04-19-2024 06:42 PM

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I'm more interested in knowing who the other 16 non QBs were that they had in this week.

AnonEmouse 04-19-2024 07:35 PM

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12 OT's, a DE, CB, S and WR?

Redskin Jim 04-19-2024 07:49 PM

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👀 [url]https://athlonsports.com/nation/bringmethesports/vikings/schefter-jayden-daniels-has-an-interest-in-being-other-places-than-washington[/url]

Redskin Jim 04-19-2024 07:52 PM

Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
 
👆🏻Schefter says Jayden Daniels doesn’t want to come to DC in above article.
Trade down for a king’s ransom??

Chico23231 04-19-2024 08:28 PM

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I heard Schefter walked this back a lil bit.

But you gotta think this with the agent putting out his tweet previously if there isn’t something too it. Noise but there are a lot teams who would want to cause a lil havoc to get Daniels.

At the sametime, this is your modern day athlete who wants to have more say in where they play across all sports. No doubt about it

Chico23231 04-19-2024 08:31 PM

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And regardless of what you think you know, Daniels to DC has never been a done deal.

Chief X_Phackter 04-19-2024 09:59 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1361307]And regardless of what you think you know, Daniels to DC has never been a done deal.[/quote]

Not at all.

KI Skins Fan 04-20-2024 10:16 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1361307]And regardless of what you think you know, Daniels to DC has never been a done deal.[/quote]

Post deleted. I have no idea what they'll do.

KI Skins Fan 04-20-2024 10:20 AM

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[quote=Redskin Jim;1361305]👆🏻Schefter says Jayden Daniels doesn’t want to come to DC in above article.
[B]Trade down for a king’s ransom??[/B][/quote]

Absolutely not! On the other hand, he likes Minnesota and I would like to have their two first round picks plus more. No, f Daniels, we can just take Maye instead of him at #2. Never mind, I have no idea what to do.

ArizonaSkinFan 04-20-2024 10:43 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1361295]That was weird and kinda weak, especially since staff picked and met with Daniels at the airport.[/quote]

Maybe they were just trying to see if any of the top 30 were divas. Nailed it. On to Maye, McCarty, or Penix

There is some history here. Go look for the video of his ASU teammates cleaning out his locker when he transferred. They didn’t mince words about their feelings.

[url]https://www.tmz.com/watch/2022-02-18-021822-jayden-daniels-locker-1366269/[/url]

That Guy 04-20-2024 04:20 PM

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I mean, that's a bit of a flag, but not sure it's consequental. I'd be happier if they weren't being silly about it though.

simbosargos75 04-20-2024 10:55 PM

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Please just take Maye.

He's the better prospect anyway.

Chief X_Phackter 04-21-2024 02:18 AM

Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
 
[quote=simbosargos75;1361316]Please just take Maye.

He's the better prospect anyway.[/quote]

It does seem that many evaluators think Maye has the higher ceiling. If that is actually the case, then I hope he's the pick.

I'm not going to allow myself to be mad at the selection though, whoever it turns out to be.

Darrell Green Fan 04-21-2024 08:10 AM

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I will be happy with either selection but strongly prefer Daniels. All this talk is nonsense IMO. If he really did not want to play here to the point where it would be an issue he would have spoken up like Elway by now. I see no chance he forces a trade if he is the pick. As for his teammates in Arizona it was clear they were upset with him because he chose to leave. This is not a Jeff George situation, I see no concerning red flags other than his mother and that will not happen here.

nonniey 04-21-2024 11:26 AM

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[quote=Redskin Jim;1361305]👆🏻Schefter says Jayden Daniels doesn’t want to come to DC in above article.
Trade down for a king’s ransom??[/quote]

I keep seeing these trade downs that absolutely rob the Redskins. The worst yet from (I forget which publication) had the Skins trading the 2d (2600pt value) to the Vikes for pick 11, 23 and next years 1st (2490pts) and then trading up to #3 (2200pts) for 11, 23, 40 and next years 3rd (2602pts).

We lose out on a low 3rd rounder equivalent in the first deal then turn right around and give up a mid 2d value to get to pick #3. It would be like offering the Pats #2, and #40 to get #3.

Defensewins 04-21-2024 11:30 AM

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It sounds like Jayden was disappointed he was not the only one being interviewed that day. Period. Sounds like nothing to me.

CRedskinsRule 04-21-2024 11:42 AM

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1361320]I keep seeing these trade downs that absolutely rob the Redskins. The worst yet from (I forget which publication) had the Skins trading the 2d (2600pt value) to the Vikes for pick 11, 23 and next years 1st (2490pts) and then trading up to #3 (2200pts) for 11, 23, 40 and next years 3rd (2602pts).



We lose out on a low 3rd rounder equivalent in the first deal then turn right around and give up a mid 2d value to get to pick #3. It would be like offering the Pats #2, and #40 to get #3.[/QUOTE]the point chart is a guide and it's highly outdated with the changes in the CBA, I think what's important on trades, if they happen, is that we come with out with the players we need/want at favorable pick compared to where they are projected to go.

For example, if we get one of the top three offensive tackles at pick 14 and the point values in our favor we still end up with a starter that has more value to our team than the point chart says pick 14 has.

This assumes that our drafting team knows what they're doing and I'm trusting that they do this year

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Redskin Jim 04-21-2024 12:13 PM

Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
 
[quote=nonniey;1361320]I keep seeing these trade downs that absolutely rob the Redskins. The worst yet from (I forget which publication) had the Skins trading the 2d (2600pt value) to the Vikes for pick 11, 23 and next years 1st (2490pts) and then trading up to #3 (2200pts) for 11, 23, 40 and next years 3rd (2602pts).

We lose out on a low 3rd rounder equivalent in the first deal then turn right around and give up a mid 2d value to get to pick #3. It would be like offering the Pats #2, and #40 to get #3.[/quote]

I’ve heard Vikings fans floating the idea of 4 #1s.
2024 #11 and #23
2025 first round pick
2026 first round pick

nonniey 04-21-2024 01:12 PM

Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1361322]the point chart is a guide and it's highly outdated with the changes in the CBA, I think what's important on trades, if they happen, is that we come with out with the players we need/want at favorable pick compared to where they are projected to go.

For example, if we get one of the top three offensive tackles at pick 14 and the point values in our favor we still end up with a starter that has more value to our team than the point chart says pick 14 has.

This assumes that our drafting team knows what they're doing and I'm trusting that they do this year

Sent from my SM-G781U using Tapatalk[/quote]

Well in the example I posted we'd get Maye this year, lose our 40th overall pick and a 3rd next year but would have the Vikes first next year. (The 40th pick is more valuable than the Vikes 1st next year (Yes it is possible the Vikes tank into a top 5 pick but unless that happens we lose and to add insult to injury next years class is supposed to be one of the weakest in years). No way under any trade scenario would that be to the Redskins benefit. Better to pick Maye, trade our 40th to team next year for their first and keep our 3rd.

nonniey 04-21-2024 01:19 PM

Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
 
[quote=Redskin Jim;1361323]I’ve heard Vikings fans floating the idea of 4 #1s.
2024 #11 and #23
2025 first round pick
2026 first round pick[/quote]


That is about equal value.

punch it in 04-21-2024 02:21 PM

Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
 
Dont trade down for anything. Get all the negative energy of the last 30 years out of your heads take Jayden Daniels, and become a contender for the foreseeable future while Peters and co continue to make us a more solid team and staff around him. I am so pumped for day two and three of the draft though. Imo day one is in the books.

nonniey 04-21-2024 03:48 PM

Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
 
[quote=punch it in;1361327]Dont trade down for anything. Get all the negative energy of the last 30 years out of your heads take Jayden Daniels, and become a contender for the foreseeable future while Peters and co continue to make us a more solid team and staff around him. I am so pumped for day two and three of the draft though. Imo day one is in the books.[/quote]

Nah Day one isn't in the books we are going to trade up for an OT.

skinsfan69 04-21-2024 04:40 PM

Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
 
[quote=MTK;1361284]Peters on 4 QBs in at same time: "What's cool is we got to see them all together in a group setting. They all got a lot of time individually with coaches & with us. They were staggered coming in, too. It was a great blend of that & working everyone together in a fun environment."[/quote]

Are all four of them going to be on the team? Cause if they are then cool. We're set at QB for a while. ..lol. But if not then what's the point? Are they trying to see which one talks more than the others? I don't give a crap about all this stuff. Who can beat the defense on 3rd and 9 is all I care about. Who does that the best? All this other stuff is such overkill.

If you don't know who your guy is at this point then this would concern me a bit. You have had all this time to evaluate these guys. You should already have them slotted by this point.

I'm still on a wait and see approach w/ Peters and Quinn. As we all should be.

skinsfan69 04-21-2024 04:42 PM

Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
 
[quote=Redskin Jim;1361305]👆🏻Schefter says Jayden Daniels doesn’t want to come to DC in above article.
Trade down for a king’s ransom??[/quote]

As tired as I am of all this draft talk, I'm more tired of Schefter. He seems like a gossipy lil' dude.

KI Skins Fan 04-21-2024 05:35 PM

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Peters doesn't owe anyone in the Press any explanation of why the Commanders conducted their Top 30 visits the way they chose to do them. Above all else, reporters need stories every day - even if they must create them. That is what we have here.


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