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sandtrapjack 07-17-2017 11:25 AM

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 
I am of the mind that Cousins wants out of DC. Unless, they simply make him an offer he just cannot refuse.

Fact of the matter is, this head coach did not draft him. But one of the guys that did draft him is now a head coach in San Francisco and has made no secret that he would like a reunion with Cousins.

It could work in favor of the 49ers in that they can sign Cousins away as a FA and still be in position to draft a QB of the future high in the first round of next years draft.

artmonkforhallofamein07 07-17-2017 11:42 AM

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;1171554]I am of the mind that Cousins wants out of DC. Unless, they simply make him an offer he just cannot refuse.

Fact of the matter is, this head coach did not draft him. But one of the guys that did draft him is now a head coach in San Francisco and has made no secret that he would like a reunion with Cousins.

It could work in favor of the 49ers in that they can sign Cousins away as a FA and still be in position to draft a QB of the future high in the first round of next years draft.[/quote]


Why would SF be looking to replace a QB that will be super expensive to sign, and will be all of 30 years old? If Cousins signs in SF there QB search is over and they wont be drafting one early in any draft for the next 3-4 years unless KC flops.

MTK 07-17-2017 11:42 AM

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 
I think Cousins is just maximizing his value. Nothing more than that. I know everyone wants to read into things but at the end of the day he just wants what he would be due under the tags. The Skins started this mess, KC is just playing the game the team started.

artmonkforhallofamein07 07-17-2017 11:53 AM

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 
[quote=MTK;1171556]I think Cousins is just maximizing his value. Nothing more than that. I know everyone wants to read into things but at the end of the day he just wants what he would be due under the tags. The Skins started this mess, KC is just playing the game the team started.[/quote]

Yep, and don't forget his agent is trying to get a max deal as well.

Schneed10 07-17-2017 11:57 AM

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 
[quote=MTK;1171548]If the Skins aren't offering at least the equivalent of this year's tag and next in guaranteed money, why would Cousins sign it?

[B]Let's see if both sides can come to their senses before 4:00. I'm not giving up hope until it's over.[/B][/quote]

Stranger things have happened. I'm not liking our chances there because sources very plugged in like Schefter have made it pretty clear, but deadlines spur action and negotiations are fluid so who knows.

SkinsGuru 07-17-2017 12:08 PM

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 
[quote=MTK;1171551]Cousins is playing the game to perfection, period. Why should he take a penny less?[/quote]

not negotiating is being a piece of shit . . . I hope he blows out both knees and both ankles all at the same time this year.

CRedskinsRule 07-17-2017 12:08 PM

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 
[quote=MTK;1171556][B]I think Cousins is just maximizing his value.[/B] Nothing more than that. I know everyone wants to read into things but at the end of the day he just wants what he would be due under the tags. The Skins started this mess, KC is just playing the game the team started.[/quote]

I agree with this. I really don't think KC fears a career ending injury, and so why shouldn't he play this year and use next year's tag as the starting point for negotiations. I think both sides had their specific concerns, and views, and in the two views don't align enough to get a deal done. I don't think it has a lot to do with where he wants to end up.

One last consideration, is a 6 year deal next year takes him to being 36. So it's going to cover his prime playing years. He simply wants to maximize that.

sdskinsfan2001 07-17-2017 12:09 PM

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 
Being a Skins fan is like having a shitty job. It's stressful, it's tiring, and it doesn't pay jack shit, but you can't quit because you've got bills to pay.

sdskinsfan2001 07-17-2017 12:11 PM

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 
If no deal was in place by 4 I'd trade him to any team that offered a top 100 pick. Not saying any team will actually offer it, just saying if.

sdskinsfan2001 07-17-2017 12:17 PM

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 
[quote=SkinsGuru;1171559]not negotiating is being a piece of shit . . . I hope he blows out both knees and both ankles all at the same time this year.[/quote]

If this was Goldilocks this would be the bowl with a bit too much aggression.

Chico23231 07-17-2017 12:18 PM

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 
While I want the deal to happen...I think from a logic standpoint there is strong reasoning to not give Cousins 24-25 per, 55-80 guaranteed. There just is. The skins are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

I wonder if the offer leaks if it doesn't get done?

MTK 07-17-2017 12:19 PM

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 
[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1171564]If this was Goldilocks this would be the bowl with a bit too much aggression.[/QUOTE]



Stuff like that is what's wrong with sports, and being human in general.

over the mountain 07-17-2017 12:29 PM

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;1171554]

Fact of the matter is, this head coach did not draft him. But one of the guys that did draft him is now a head coach in San Francisco and has made no secret that he would like a reunion with Cousins.

[/quote]

On the flip side, 2 years ago Gruden put his neck on the line in that hours long meeting trying to convince Dan and Bruce that Cousins should be named the starter.

Im fine w Cousins playing on the tag this year, I wish we signed him to 16-20M last year but cest la vie.

Unless Cousins plays to an MVP level or we make a deep playoff run, I dont see Cousins value increasing.

I think this offseason, his value was at its highest and he failed to lock in a LTD. 50% chance injuries or decrease in production happen this year.

FlyerSkin 07-17-2017 12:31 PM

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1171545]Common sense would also dictate that a player would take the security of a long term deal over the risk of playing on a one year deal.

As I mentioned before, if Cousins' camp doesn't value the security of a long term deal (which most players do), it is a lost bargaining chip for the Redskins.

While I do not believe the team is blameless, I do feel that this is either about Cousins not wanting to play here and/or being in for the money. If you have a player that doesn't value the security of a long term deal and doesn't want to play here and/or wants unrealistic money, how do you come to a compromise and a deal under those situations?[/quote]

You just let him go and draft a qb. The guy choked when the season was on the line. All he had to do is win one of 3 games to get into the playoffs, with 2 of those teams being subpar and the other not having to win. You can't justify putting yourself in a position to having to let multiple good players go for a guy that hasn't really shown anything to warrant $25 million a year. The issue is moot as it seems that one or both parties don't want to have anything to do with the other after 2017.

MTK 07-17-2017 12:34 PM

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1171565]While I want the deal to happen...I think from a logic standpoint there is strong reasoning to not give Cousins 24-25 per, 55-80 guaranteed. There just is. The skins are damned if they do and damned if they don't.



I wonder if the offer leaks if it doesn't get done?[/QUOTE]



Strong reasoning to not pay a guy you already paid $19m last year and are on the hook for $24m this? Not sure I'm seeing it.


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