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[quote=punch it in;1298722]You started the damn thread. Lol[/quote]

It stayed fresh for like 2 posts. Should have named it Same Shit, Different Day, Political Thread.

We're probably ready for a new one again lol. But I'll let someone else start/name it.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1298717]The defund the police is a white progressive movement that minority don’t support. But because race is center at the police reform…you would think the support would be there correct? It’s not…and is not covered by the media.

You don’t think this is poignant in this particular policy reform? I can’t help you then[/QUOTE]


Defund is Reform. Everyone knows that. It is just like the “take your guns away” instead of “gun reform”. Basically leave well enough alone it doesn’t affect me personally. It is what the right does best. Than you get your hands on CRT and dismantle and reassemble that into a left wing reverse racism huge knot. Where do you get the impression that blacks do not support police reform? Because I assure you it is misguided if not a straight falsehood.

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[quote=Chico23231;1298717]The defund the police is a white progressive movement that [B]majority[/B] don’t support. But because race is center at the police reform…you would think the support would be there correct? It’s not…and is not covered by the media.

You don’t think this is poignant in this particular policy reform? I can’t help you then[/quote]

FTFY.

If the majority of the population supported defunding the police - it would happen.

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[quote=punch it in;1298726][B]Defund is Reform[/B]. Everyone knows that. It is just like the “take your guns away” instead of “gun reform”. Basically leave well enough alone it doesn’t affect me personally. It is what the right does best. Than you get your hands on CRT and dismantle and reassemble that into a left wing reverse racism huge knot. [B]Where do you get the impression that blacks do not support police reform?[/B] Because I assure you it is misguided if not a straight falsehood.[/quote]

Lol…this is perfect.

Take the issue, reword and redefine it for you. Then act like I said something else with your new definition and strawman it.

Bro you know I love u, but come on man. The Minneapolis police removal bill was not supported by minorities which is inline with their opposition of defund the police strategies across the country. Defund the police is a largely white progressives issue which doesn’t have much support

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1298729]Lol…this is perfect.

Take the issue, reword and redefine it for you. Then act like I said something else with your new definition and strawman. [/QUOTE]

Did you just take my post and basically say i know you are but what am i?

Chico do you think police reform based on the treatment of blacks across America is necessary? Yes or no?

The black leaders in Minneapolis did not reject police reform. They rejected how to go about it. But you and the right would like to say “see everything’s cool nobody wants change” and walk away. It is what you are doing here.

[url]https://apnews.com/article/death-of-george-floyd-police-minneapolis-race-and-ethnicity-904ab1f67d3c788103a3b11dfeded76b[/url]

There are clearly young folks, liberals, who are moving with blind rage - for good reason- but without preparation for the future. This doesn’t negate the problem and certainly does not speak for minorities or liberals in general. Saying “see they dont want change” is wrong on the rights part too. More wrong actually than just going about getting change without considering repercussions.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1298720]So you think the BLM movement is run by "white progressives"?

chico you get Police reform mixed up with defund the Police ,two different things.[/QUOTE]


The right made it one thing. Just like gun control and taking them away. Just like crt and reverse racism. It is the easy way out, and they can continue with the status quo.

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[quote=punch it in;1298730]Did you just take my post and basically say i know you are but what am i?

Chico do you think police reform based on the treatment of blacks across America is necessary? Yes or no?

The black leaders in Minneapolis did not reject police reform. They rejected how to go about it. But you and the right would like to say “see everything’s cool nobody wants change” and walk away. It is what you are doing here.[/quote]

Again I never said that. Defund the police is dead. The issue of less policing is not supported.

Reforms in policing has bipartisan support, Tim Scott’s police bill has some of the very issues that have already passed in liberal city and state legislatures such as Virginia.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1298732]Again I never said that. Defund the police is dead. The issue of less policing is not supported.

Reforms in policing has bipartisan support, Tim Scott’s police bill has some of the very issues that have already passed in liberal city and state legislatures such as Virginia.[/QUOTE]


Defund the police was never alive, it was a quick rash label floated in a time of severe civil rest.

Ill take this answer as a yes you do think police reform is necessary. Would be nice if the GOP would get behind it the way they do for corporate tax cuts.

Problem is the Trump Republicans just made it into a war and slapped police lives matter stickers on their pick up trucks. And they vote for the GOP. So…..

Left wants police reform. Right puts blue lives matter stickers on things.

Left wants any change for the better. Right puts if you don’t like this country ill help you pack signs on things.

It is pretty simple. Right wants to leave well enough alone. Left wants equality for all. Not just the rich. Not just the white. Not just the men. Trump was an absolutely perfect mouth piece to twist want the left wants into a boogie man who wants to take your guns away and get rid of police so they can steal your shit and rape your families. I think a ton of Republicans genuinely want equality for all. I also think that they get caught up in the extremist lies and confused and tired of it all which leads to the status quo and a win for the extreme right.

No need to find an example of a poor black lady who supports the NRA. My belief is pretty spot on overall. Always gonna be flip sides.

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[quote=punch it in;1298736]defund the police was never alive, it was a quick rash label floated in a time of severe civil rest.

Ill take this answer as a yes you do think police reform is necessary. Would be nice if the gop would get behind it the way they do for corporate tax cuts.

Problem is the trump republicans just made it into a war and slapped police lives matter stickers on their pick up trucks. And they vote for the gop. So…..

Left wants police reform. Right puts blue lives matter stickers on things.

Left wants any change for the better. Right puts if you don’t like this country ill help you pack signs on things.

It is pretty simple. Right wants to leave well enough alone. Left wants equality for all. Not just the rich. Not just the white. Not just the men. Trump was an absolutely perfect mouth piece to twist want the left wants into a boogie man who wants to take your guns away and get rid of police so they can steal your shit and rape your families. I think a ton of republicans genuinely want equality for all. I also think that they get caught up in the extremist lies and confused and tired of it all which leads to the status quo and a win for the extreme right.

No need to find an example of a poor black lady who supports the nra. My belief is pretty spot on overall. Always gonna be flip sides.[/quote]
................+1!

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[quote=Chico23231;1298732]Again I never said that. Defund the police is dead. The issue of less policing is not supported.

Reforms in policing has bipartisan support, Tim Scott’s police bill has some of the very issues that have already passed in liberal city and state legislatures such as Virginia.[/quote]

"Too often we're having a discussion in this nation about are you supporting the law enforcement community or are you supporting communities of color. This is a false binary choice," Scott said at a news conference unveiling his bill Wednesday.

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/17/george-floyd-senate-gop-introduce-police-reform-bill/3202254001/[/url]

Scott is right re the above, we shouldnt try to make it a binary issue. I lived in some pretty high crime areas and trust me .. the people who live there want more police not less. But I think they also want accountability and the right kind of policing. Thats where we get muddy waters and then everyone goes to their tribal corner and nothing gets done.

Dems wanted the bill to include ending qualified immunity .. which is a big issue and not something to be slipped into a bill without real research and debate.

Dems should have worked with Scott and got something passed. More incentives for body cameras are a good thing. Incentivicing against the use of choke holds, while not outright banning them, is still a step in the right direction. Money for research into why police interactions with POC are dis proportionately excessive is the first step to providing a knowledge framework for future bills.

Baby steps is still movement.

Now Im sure if the Dems proposed the Scott bill now with no changes at all .. Rs would vote against it but you had Rs on the back pedal ready to sacrifice some funds to help the cause bc of the climate and theyd get credit for it and use it in their campaigns as 'See we arent total racist dicks" .... but who cares. As long as we move forward.

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Mike Pence man. What a fuckin pussy. Dude riles up a bunch of armed insurrectionists and feeds them lies about you and they proceed to march to the Capitol chanting hang mike pence. And you continue to kiss his ass while acting like it never happened. What a spineless tool bag.

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Thanks Brandon!

[QUOTE]The US added back 531,000 jobs in October, beating all expectations.

The Dow is over 36,000 for the first time in history.

More than 80% of jobs lost during the pandemic have been recovered.

Over 220 million Americans are vaccinated and now children can get vaccinated.[/QUOTE]

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[quote=MTK;1298872]Thanks Brandon![/quote]

Amazing, how one man could literally do so much for an entire nation.

Thank you Brandon, we are eternally in your debt.

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Hmm, this has to be bad news somehow. Hold please...lol.

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At 43 am I getting old and grumpy or does it seem like the House is a juvenile shit show at this point.

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speaking of tacky garb, who wore it better?

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[quote=SunnySide;1298876][IMG]https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2021/11/1862/1048/Boebert-and-law-enforcement-e1636123739272.png?ve=1&tl=1[/IMG]

At 43 am I getting old and grumpy or does it seem like the House is a juvenile shit show at this point.[/quote]

This is fine, AOC getting dunked on for her hypocritical eat the rich stunt while with the same people she pretends to hate at the MET gala is in scope. Also clowning the President was fine previously

Great news on the jobs front, people should be working and not sitting on their lazy ass having their rent and extra unemployment benefits. Stop using my tax money to sustain lazy ass people.

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[quote=MTK;1298877]speaking of tacky garb, who wore it better?

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCqGI9_VEAE7bs0?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG][/quote]

When Arizona GOP go against their party they are mavericks, when it’s a Democrat they are chased into bathrooms and accosted at wedding ceremonies. It’s pretty funny to watch

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[YT]JoPOUIhHpjE[/YT]

Kinda catchy

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[quote=Chico23231;1298880]When Arizona GOP go against their party they are mavericks, when it’s a Democrat they are chased into bathrooms and accosted at wedding ceremonies. It’s pretty funny to watch[/quote]

dude your "victim" mentality runs deep.

I guess the liberal Chico would be like "McCain was called a traitor by MAGAs for not supporting Trumps agenda but now MAGAs are applauding Sinema not supporting Biden's agenda. Pretty funny to watch."

Chico I applaud your ability to twist any piece of news or info into a way that fits your pre conceived narrative.

Youre a good soldier.

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Braves just won the World Series. I'm on such a peaceful high, nothing can bring me down, not even Warpath politics.

All democrats are awesome except for Sinema and Manchin. All republicans suck. If Mt. Rushmore adds a 5th head, or 1 of the 4 get canceled, Biden is next up to be added.

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1298889]dude your "victim" mentality runs deep.

I guess the liberal Chico would be like "McCain was called a traitor by MAGAs for not supporting Trumps agenda but now MAGAs are applauding Sinema not supporting Biden's agenda. Pretty funny to watch."

Chico I applaud your ability to twist any piece of news or info into a way that fits your pre conceived narrative.

Youre a good soldier.[/QUOTE]


He spins better than a top

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[quote=SunnySide;1298889]dude your "victim" mentality runs deep.

I guess the liberal Chico would be like "McCain was called a traitor by MAGAs for not supporting Trumps agenda but now MAGAs are applauding Sinema not supporting Biden's agenda. Pretty funny to watch."

Chico I applaud your ability to twist any piece of news or info into a way that fits your pre conceived narrative.

Youre a good soldier.[/quote]

But I didn’t say anything that was wrong tho. I’m not doing the framing, the media is.

I didn’t have a problem with McCain and I told folks before Sinema wasn’t gonna participate in socialism.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1298892]But I didn’t say anything that was wrong tho. I’m not doing the framing, the media is.

I didn’t have a problem with McCain and I told folks before Sinema wasn’t gonna participate in socialism.[/QUOTE]


Socialism lol. That is such a bullshit right wing boogie man tactic. Because Trump and the GOP only have all our own interests at heart and simply want us all to be rich and happy and safe. They’re so cute.

“Socialism” or making sure all Americans have a chance for a good decent life as opposed to the people you stand in lock step with who right in plain sight make the rich richer and bleed us dry. But you fall for the “socialist” line. Hysterical.

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[quote=punch it in;1298893]Socialism lol. That is such a bullshit right wing boogie man tactic. Because Trump and the GOP only have all our own interests at heart and simply want us all to be rich and happy and safe. They’re so cute.

“Socialism” or making sure all Americans have a chance for a good decent life as opposed to the people you stand in lock step with who right in plain sight make the rich richer and bleed us dry. But you fall for the “socialist” line. Hysterical.[/quote]

Paid leave for people not working is socialism and is not improving their life.

Oh, you and the Democrats will own the SALT tax repeal as the biggest tax credit to the wealthy and ultra wealthy on the books.

Pathetic from the hypocrites who constantly ask for the wealthy to pay their own share. It’s complete hypocrisy, no other way about it folks. Can’t be argued

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1298896]Paid leave for people not working is socialism and is not improving their life.

Oh, you and the Democrats will own the SALT tax repeal as the biggest tax credit to the wealthy and ultra wealthy on the books.

Pathetic from the hypocrites who constantly ask for the wealthy to pay their own share. It’s complete hypocrisy, no other way about it folks. Can’t be argued[/QUOTE]


Funny how you think the left are the only ones that get paid for staying home. Lol. You know Chico where i work everyday in NJ - i mean walking thru these peoples yards, going thru their houses sometimes - entire neighborhoods are home. All trash filled yards cus they r too lazy while getting government assistance to even pick up the fucking trash in their yards. And you know what - every fuckin one has a Fuck Biden flag flying. You want ill start taking pictures of the fuckin thousands of houses. Pretty fuckin ironic huh?

What is hypocritical is how you put it all in a neat little box of your own imagination. I see this shit man. Walking to their mailboxes in their pajamas for their checks while they bitch and moan about the socialist democrats. Lol. Nothing is what it seems bro. Nothing.

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[quote=punch it in;1298936]Funny how you think the left are the only ones that get paid for staying home. Lol. You know Chico where i work everyday in NJ - i mean walking thru these peoples yards, going thru their houses sometimes - entire neighborhoods are home. All trash filled yards cus they r too lazy while getting government assistance to even pick up the fucking trash in their yards. [B]And you know what - every fuckin one has a Fuck Biden flag flying. [/B]You want ill start taking pictures of the fuckin thousands of houses. Pretty fuckin ironic huh?

What is hypocritical is how you put it all in a neat little box of your own imagination. I see this shit man. Walking to their mailboxes in their pajamas for their checks while they bitch and moan about the socialist democrats. Lol. Nothing is what it seems bro. Nothing.[/quote]

They all had Biden flags? 🤠

No takebacks.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1298937]They all had Biden flags? [emoji1783]

No takebacks.[/QUOTE]


Read again Cowboy. Lol

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[quote=punch it in;1298938]Read again Cowboy. Lol[/quote]

I read it several times. Apparently my comprehension is not working today. Reads to me like tons of people with trash in their yards are flying Biden flags.

Giddy-up!

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1298939]I read it several times. Apparently my comprehension is not working today. Reads to me like tons of people with trash in their yards are flying Biden flags.

Giddy-up!

[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/6yIXl9ksBKIAAAAM/giddy-kramer.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]


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[quote=punch it in;1298940][IMG]https://media4.giphy.com/media/NEvPzZ8bd1V4Y/giphy.gif[/IMG][/quote]

Lol. I like that guy.

These last 2 weeks have been brutal, outside of the Braves winning. Friend fell and broke her wrist, been taking care of her past 2 weeks, surgery yesterday. And today is dragging ass. I got some good beers at home. I apologize in advance for my early morning political posts that might come.

Happy Friday!!

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1298941]Lol. I like that guy.

These last 2 weeks have been brutal, outside of the Braves winning. Friend fell and broke her wrist, been taking care of her past 2 weeks, surgery yesterday. And today is dragging ass. I got some good beers at home. I apologize in advance for my early morning political posts that might come.

Happy Friday!![/QUOTE]


Love that guy. Lol. Hope ur friends ok - ur a good friend charlie brown. Yeah i had a rough fuckin week too. Still rough but its the weekend im meeting the folks - pops turning 85! And i got a kane head high. Can’t complain!

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[quote=punch it in;1298942]Love that guy. Lol. Hope ur friends ok - ur a good friend charlie brown. Yeah i had a rough fuckin week too. Still rough but its the weekend im meeting the folks - pops turning 85! And i got a kane head high. Can’t complain![/quote]

85, nice. Enjoy the weekend!!

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1298943]85, nice. Enjoy the weekend!!

[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/XeqnSrR4J7IAAAAC/carebear-carebears.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]


Lol. Thanks SD.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1298937]They all had Biden flags? 🤠

No takebacks.[/quote]

9 of 10, yup

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[quote=Chico23231;1298878]This is fine, AOC getting dunked on for her hypocritical eat the rich stunt while with the same people she pretends to hate at the MET gala is in scope. Also clowning the President was fine previously

Great news on the jobs front, people should be working and not sitting on their lazy ass having their rent and extra unemployment benefits. Stop using my tax money to sustain lazy ass people.[/quote]

stfu.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1298943]85, nice. Enjoy the weekend!!

[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/XeqnSrR4J7IAAAAC/carebear-carebears.gif[/IMG][/quote]

I'm digging this new positive peaceful vibes in this hell-bent landscape that is the politics forum.

Have a good weekend too SD!

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[quote=mooby;1298700]The 1619 Project - ah yes I remember learning about that in the third grade.

CRT is the latest manufactured crisis - fear drives conservatives to the polls, not policy.[/quote]

You miss the for example part?????

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[quote=punch it in;1298708]Let’s ignore the problem ^ and twist it so far down the rabbit hole of blame that it just goes away.[/quote]

So you think the Critical Race Theory is right (it is a hypothesis). Racism is baked into the United States (In other words it can't be fixed)? You reject MLK's beliefs (CRT does)? Under the US due to how it was created, all white people are oppressors and all minorities are victims? Due to how the US was created Whites (as a group) will always come out ahead of any minority group? The later btw is what disproves the CRT hypothosis.

You believe those things?

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[quote=nonniey;1298956]So you think the Critical Race Theory is right (it is a hypothesis). Racism is baked into the United States (In other words it can't be fixed)? You reject MLK's beliefs (CRT does)? Under the US due to how it was created, all white people are oppressors and all minorities are victims? Due to how the US was created Whites (as a group) will always come out ahead of any minority group? The later btw is what disproves the CRT hypothosis.

You believe those things?[/quote]

Think I wanna get drunk tonight. It's been a long week.