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[url=http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman-bullied-former-colleague-complaint-says-073851747--abc-news-topstories.html]George Zimmerman Bullied Former Colleague, Complaint Says - Yahoo![/url]

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Texas '[URL="http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/texas-stand-ground-shooter-headed-prison-210731482.html"]Stand Your Ground[/URL]' murderer gets 40 years.

Should have got the death penalty.

Gun owners with no control make all gun owners look bad.

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[url=http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-07-16/news/os-george-zimmerman-jail-phone-calls-20120716_1_trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-shellie-zimmerman]George Zimmerman molested: George Zimmerman witness 9 claims he sexually molested her - Orlando Sentinel[/url]

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[quote=DynamiteRave;925120][url=http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-07-16/news/os-george-zimmerman-jail-phone-calls-20120716_1_trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-shellie-zimmerman]George Zimmerman molested: George Zimmerman witness 9 claims he sexually molested her - Orlando Sentinel[/url][/quote]

It's hard to take her serious because she's tried to level a few accusations against Zimmerman already. Now this suddenly surfaces?

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Look I don't know what happen but once people found out he was sitting on a boat load of money everyone knew him and then the stories start.

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It does seem like all this stuff is coming up only because of the trial. But still if this turns out to be true, lock Zimmerman up for a very long time. For this regardless of the self defense/murder case.

I didn't see it posted here, but it may make sense why this woman waited to come forward. Till Zimmerman was too busy with other stuff to retaliate, if he's indeed that kind of person. Most molestation/rape goes completely unreported for fear of retaliation, humiliation, other reasons. Or she could be another Crystal Mangum. This still needs to be investigated.

And while you technically can't apply a person's background to a present case (can't punish someone or make inferences for past charged misconduct), this is a huge strike against Zimmerman's credibility if there's evidence (witnesses to his saying "sorry" to her or anything).

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[quote=Chico23231;922880]George Zimmerman failed to identify himself twice during a confrontation with Trayvon Martin and missed opportunities to defuse the situation that led to the death of the teen, a detective says in a newly released report.

"Investigative findings show that (Zimmerman) had at least two opportunities to speak with (Martin) in order to defuse the circumstances surrounding their encounter," Serino wrote in the report. "On at least two occasions (Zimmerman) failed to identify himself as a concerned resident or a neighborhood watch volunteer."

The detective also said Zimmerman's actions "are inconsistent with those of a person who has stated he was in fear of another subject."

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/27/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2]Investigator: Zimmerman missed opportunities to defuse situation - CNN.com[/url]

And this is exactly why Zim deserves to be in jail hopefully for the remainder of his life.[/quote]The article also mentions said officer being demoted afterwards and Zimmerman passing a lie detector test.

"Failed to identify himself"? Zimmerman didn't have to identify himself any more than Martin did. I don't think I know of any people who go around with the attitude "Tell me who you are or I'll beat you up!" on their own time in a public place. A better standard should apply to Zimmerman and Martin in this case.

Considering there's little chance the two could have met if either one really wanted to avoid confrontation (the place they met had wide areas open to escape in at least two directions), and met just before where Zimmerman's truck was without going MMA on each other, both of them "missed opportunities to defuse the situation".

Walking through a neighborhood, following someone in a public place, neither are grounds for assault by themselves. IMO, it all comes down to who started the fight, as to whether Zimmerman's self defense claim can stand. Maybe some evidence will turn up, surveillance camera footage would be a godsend, but I guess that would have been leaked already if it existed.

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Don't know what Zimmerman's attorney was thinking letting him do the interview on Fox News.....unless he wants him to be convicted. Idiot.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;925473]Don't know what Zimmerman's attorney was thinking letting him do the interview on Fox News.....unless he wants him to be convicted. Idiot.[/quote]

It was god's plan and I am sure he wouldn't change anything. :doh

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SMH.
[URL="http://www.nbc-2.com/story/19119389/2012/07/26/no-bond-for-cape-homicide-suspect"]
Florida man kills door-to-door salesman. Salesman shot in head "for effect"[/URL]

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^^needs to go into the gun control thread.

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[quote=NC_Skins;927104]^^needs to go into the gun control thread.[/quote]No, it needs to go in the "nut control" thread. Since there isn't one, we've had one or two other "stand your ground" / "castle" cases here.

edit: Posting in both threads is fine with me.

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[URL="http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/20/justice/florida-zimmerman-trial/index.html"]All-female jury to try Zimmerman[/URL]

[I](CNN) -- A jury of six women was chosen Thursday to hear the case of George Zimmerman, the Florida neighborhood watch volunteer accused of murder in the 2012 killing of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin.

Five of the six are white. They were chosen from among a pool of 500 potential jurors in the closely watched case against Zimmerman, who faces a second-degree murder charge in Martin's death.[/I]

Zimmerman is screwed......

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[quote=RedskinRat;1012765][URL="http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/20/justice/florida-zimmerman-trial/index.html"]All-female jury to try Zimmerman[/URL]

[I](CNN) -- A jury of six women was chosen Thursday to hear the case of George Zimmerman, the Florida neighborhood watch volunteer accused of murder in the 2012 killing of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin.[/I]

[I]Five of the six are white. They were chosen from among a pool of 500 potential jurors in the closely watched case against Zimmerman, who faces a second-degree murder charge in Martin's death.[/I]

Zimmerman is screwed......[/quote]

I thought the same thing. Now if he is not convicted people will point to the 5 to 1 white jury as the reason.

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zimmerman is a dead man walking imo.

if you are in a fist fight and the other person doesnt have a deadly weapon, you can not shoot them. that is murder.

kinda hard to claim self defense when there was only 1 gun and you were the one holding it and discharging it into an unarmed person.

RACIAL PROFILING HAS TO STOP.

edit - its funny. in the video re-enactment zimmerman did he says "then i put my hand on his mouth and said .. .. no he put his hand on my mouth and said shut the eff up.... "

he also said that martin confronted him and sd "do you have a problem". zimmerman then sd that he sd "no i dont have a problem" ... zimmerman seemed very confrontational on the phone call to 911 dispatch and his actions of repeatedly following martin yet he claims when he had a chance to confront martin, zimmerman wants us to think he was non-confrontational and just like "no i dont have a problem" ......

plus the 911 calls from neighbors, the repeated screams of help sure sound like a young male imo.

[URL="http://http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/27/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2"]http://http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/27/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2[/URL]

^^ video of zimmerman's account. even under his version, he wasnt justified in using deadly force since martin was unarmed.