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[QUOTE=9erman]The vanilla defense Nolan ran in DC had a lot to do with the lack of talent and many injuries on your defense. He is a good motivator and will not be calling the plays[/QUOTE]

I've also seen him run the same defense in NY (giants) and Baltimore when both teams had talent. While he is the most talked about DC he is far from the best. His love affair with prevent defenses is sickening and lack of agressiveness has cost his teams many a game.

Furthermore, on the subject of Norv, I couldn't agree more. He is a horrible HC. Can't motivate, is too soft on the players, and can't seem to garner their respect because he's too busy trying to be everyone's best friend. As an OC, he is an incredible offensive mind. Give him a top flite running back, tight end, and QB and he'll put together a solid offense for you.

We'll see what happens with Lloyd. There's lots of nay-sayers out there, no doubt, but then again everyone said that trading Moss for Coles would be a bust. Well it was for the Jets at least. We got a pro-bowl receiver out of the deal and the Jets got a Toe-bowl receiver. We're giving up a 3rd RD and 4th RD (don't listen to what the Post says, 90% of the time they make up stories on the laptop as they go along and call it news) so I feel it's pretty even in terms of value. We'll see if he's got the stuff to be the #2. I think there's going to be some heated competition for that position in SC and he'll be one of the contenders.

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[QUOTE=LongTimeSkinsFan]I've also seen him run the same defense in NY (giants) and Baltimore when both teams had talent. While he is the most talked about DC he is far from the best. His love affair with prevent defenses is sickening and lack of agressiveness has cost his teams many a game.

Furthermore, on the subject of Norv, I couldn't agree more. He is a horrible HC. Can't motivate, is too soft on the players, and can't seem to garner their respect because he's too busy trying to be everyone's best friend. As an OC, he is an incredible offensive mind. Give him a top flite running back, tight end, and QB and he'll put together a solid offense for you.

We'll see what happens with Lloyd. There's lots of nay-sayers out there, no doubt, but then again everyone said that trading Moss for Coles would be a bust. Well it was for the Jets at least. We got a pro-bowl receiver out of the deal and the Jets got a Toe-bowl receiver. We're giving up a 3rd RD and 4th RD (don't listen to what the Post says, 90% of the time they make up stories on the laptop as they go along and call it news) so I feel it's pretty even in terms of value. We'll see if he's got the stuff to be the #2. I think there's going to be some heated competition for that position in SC and he'll be one of the contenders.[/QUOTE]

Good post....I think that we come out great here by picking up draft picks and replacing Lloyd through FA. I wish y'all the best of luck with both Lloyd and Carter and I hope they do well for you.
BEAT THE COWBOYS!!!!!!

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They not only have Norv, they also have Vanilla Ice Cream Man. Remember all the stuff he spewed last year about our team when he was hired. Guess the butt whipping didn't teach him a lesson. I would say good luck to the 9er fan but really I hope they go 0-16. For criss sake it is Norv and Nolan.

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[QUOTE=CRT3]They not only have Norv, they also have Vanilla Ice Cream Man. Remember all the stuff he spewed last year about our team when he was hired. Guess the butt whipping didn't teach him a lesson. I would say good luck to the 9er fan but really I hope they go 0-16. For criss sake it is Norv and Nolan.[/QUOTE]

Wow.....I thought Dallas fans were classless.

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[QUOTE=9erman]Good post....I think that we come out great here by picking up draft picks and replacing Lloyd through FA. I wish y'all the best of luck with both Lloyd and Carter and I hope they do well for you.
BEAT THE COWBOYS!!!!!![/QUOTE]

You know, 9erman, you have been spending quite a bit of time over here lately. Isn't this really a cry for help? Aren't you really saying that you have experienced too much pain rooting for the 49ers as of late and are looking for a soft place to land? We understand. We'll welcome you over to the Burgandy and Gold with open arms.

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[QUOTE=RiggoRules]You know, 9erman, you have been spending quite a bit of time over here lately. Isn't this really a cry for help? Aren't you really saying that you have experienced too much pain rooting for the 49ers as of late and are looking for a soft place to land? We understand. We'll welcome you over to the Burgandy and Gold with open arms.[/QUOTE]
There is a poster on our sites called DesperateJetsFan. He does the same as me.....just needs another source of conversation.
P.S. I will die a 9er fan :)

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I really don't know how you can say that lloyd isn't a down field reciever because it looks to me that he can be. Anyway, lloyd will be a third reciever, second at best so I don't think that we need him to have the weight of the recieving core on his shoulders like he did in san fran.

David Patten will be back from injuries and he can catch balls anywhere on the field. Lloyd's speed and quickness will give us options in the passing game that teams have to respect and that will open up the field for everyone else.

For a third and fourth round pick that is a bargain. Considering that our last reciever pick was Taylor Jacobs in the second round I am more than happy picking up a free agent than an unknown third round rookie.

Good luck with the picks niner but I think we got the best of this deal.

"I know we don't have any Dallas people here -- they are the ugliest people in the world."
- Joe Gibbs

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[QUOTE=9erman]Wow.....I thought Dallas fans were classless.[/QUOTE]

It's nothing against the 49ers. Hell, if Nove and Nolan were coaching any other team people here would still be cheering against them. They conger up bad memories in the same manner remembering that time when you woke up next to [insert phrase] after being drunk the night before would.

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Coach Gibbs and crew will straighten his attitude out and he knows how to get that pigskin.

We'll be fine, thanks for your concern 9erman.

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I'm not sold on Lloyd, I hope I'm wrong.

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[QUOTE=81forHOF]I'm not sold on Lloyd, I hope I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]

Don't worry you probably are

;)

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I have to wonder what it will be like to be moved to another team, on another coast, to back up a receiver like Moss? I think that I can understand how Lloyd might not be focused when the team is losing all the time. Guys like that tend to do better (mentally) when they are around veteren players than they do around a young group like the 49ers have now. Let's see what people say about his work ethic come off season workouts...

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[QUOTE=hooskins]Lloyd is definately worth the risk. It sure beats drafting a rookie, who could be a total coin flip.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Especially with the lack of picks we have now.

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[QUOTE=LongTimeSkinsFan]
We'll see what happens with Lloyd. There's lots of nay-sayers out there, no doubt, but then again everyone said that trading Moss for Coles would be a bust. Well it was for the Jets at least. We got a pro-bowl receiver out of the deal and the Jets got a Toe-bowl receiver. We're giving up a 3rd RD and 4th RD (don't listen to what the Post says, 90% of the time they make up stories on the laptop as they go along and call it news) so I feel it's pretty even in terms of value. We'll see if he's got the stuff to be the #2. I think there's going to be some heated competition for that position in SC and he'll be one of the contenders.[/QUOTE]


none of the nay sayers said anything bad about moss's attitude (quite the oppossite), just that they thought cole was better (the jets fans didn't know we gave him back with only 8 fingers and 9 toes), and santana went out of bounds too often (which he didn't here, but we never threw between the numbers either) and that he had yearly hamstring issues (which we avoided).

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[QUOTE=9erman]Wow.....I thought Dallas fans were classless.[/QUOTE]

you telling us about problems your team had with our new player, we're telling you about problems our team had with BOTH of your coaches.

Norv was here a long time and he's well known for winning with a dallas team with crazy amounts of talent. As a head coach he's ALWAYS had a habit of figuring out how to blow leads and lose games though. He has NO leadership skills and that's why he's a terrible head coach. as far as running an offense, he seems to be alright.

Nolan didn't ddo much as a DC here, but snyder was probably still too involved
in football decisions and too reactionary at that point of his ownership.