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Hog1 06-02-2006 10:40 AM

Re: Redskins most balanced team in NFC East?
 
I sound like such an uptight prick

Noooo, not at all.......................Jeez, what an uptight prick

skindogger47 06-02-2006 12:16 PM

Re: Redskins most balanced team in NFC East?
 
Ohter than Eli and Hasselback, our QB situation is just as stable if not moreso than most teams in the NFC.

Coaching and personnel changes--the Cowboys lost their OC without replacing him, the Giants are starting practically a whole new secondary and Lavar (who just might take some time to fit), and the Eagles lost their premier receiving threat. Greg Lewis and Reggie Brown just aren't going to be able to take the load off Westbrook.

That said, I think the Skins have a great chance this year of vaulting themselves into the league's elite.

Beemnseven 06-02-2006 03:30 PM

Re: Redskins most balanced team in NFC East?
 
[QUOTE=hooskins]It really isnt a debate, of course you need good offense and special teams, but its more of a saying. But you guys cant sit here and say defense is not the most important. You cant just keep on slinging on the offensive side and hope to outscore your opponent, look at KC. Basically you can win a championship with a great defense, good special teams, and a weak offense, but [B]you [I]CAN'T[/I] win a championship with a great offense, good special teams, and a weak defense. [/B] If you have a defense that can create pressure and turnovers, it can put a bad offensive unit in an easier position to score. There are always extremes in this "debate", but on the whole you have to accept defense is a very important element of the team, if not the MOST important element. The saying is cliche, and I do not take it just at facevalue, but it does carry an element of truth. You def need special teams and the offensive to show up, and a good defense will complement them.[/QUOTE]

I don't mean to draw this out but ... screw it. It's the offseason.

The statement, "you CAN'T win a championship with a great offense, good special teams, and a weak defense" is false. Sure you can. Maybe your percentages of winning that way are lower, but it's certainly not impossible. An opposing team's offense might be out of sync or having an off day -- making your weak defense inconsequential to a win, assuming of course your great offense and good special teams are up to the task.

Bottom line, you need some of all three phases of the game, and a little help from your opponent won't hurt either.

GTripp0012 06-02-2006 03:39 PM

Re: Redskins most balanced team in NFC East?
 
[quote=Beemnseven]I don't mean to draw this out but ... screw it. It's the offseason.

The statement, "you CAN'T win a championship with a great offense, good special teams, and a weak defense" is false. Sure you can. Maybe your percentages of winning that way are lower, but it's certainly not impossible. An opposing team's offense might be out of sync or having an off day -- making your weak defense inconsequential to a win, assuming of course your great offense and good special teams are up to the task.

Bottom line, you need some of all three phases of the game, and a little help from your opponent won't hurt either.[/quote]That, and your defense can be terrible, but still generate turnovers, giving the ball to the offense to win. Watch for KC to win a bunch of games this year in that fashion.

RiggoRules 06-02-2006 04:18 PM

Re: Redskins most balanced team in NFC East?
 
The Skins have balance everywhere except QB.

Giantone 06-02-2006 04:24 PM

Re: Redskins most balanced team in NFC East?
 
[quote=#56fanatic]UH, has Coughlin won 3 bowls? Dont even put him in the same catagory. Our D coach has coached in a super bowl. Our O-Coordinator has won a super bowl. So, I believe we have the best coaching staff in the NFL. I may be a little crazy, but there are a lot of big silver footballs walking around Redskin park and a lot of big diamond rings! So get out of here with the over paid crap.

Go buy a #55 jersey and a #58 jersey.[/quote]

Oh sorry I thought we were talking about reality here ,coaching now not in 1990.

That Guy 06-02-2006 04:33 PM

Re: Redskins most balanced team in NFC East?
 
[quote=Beemnseven]I don't mean to draw this out but ... screw it. It's the offseason.

The statement, "you CAN'T win a championship with a great offense, good special teams, and a weak defense" is false. Sure you can. Maybe your percentages of winning that way are lower, but it's certainly not impossible. [/quote]

the rams did it. it is pretty rare though.

That Guy 06-02-2006 04:37 PM

Re: Redskins most balanced team in NFC East?
 
[quote=Giantone]Oh sorry I thought we were talking about reality here ,coaching now not in 1990.[/quote]

sorry, i thought we weren't living under a rock for the last ten years. if you think al saunders and OC and gregg williams at DC are somehow worse than what NY has, well... good luck trying to argue that.

the number of DCs, and HCs in washington is insane.

GTripp0012 06-02-2006 05:17 PM

Re: Redskins most balanced team in NFC East?
 
[quote=RiggoRules]The Skins have balance everywhere except QB.[/quote]They have balance there too. Brunell can attack you in multiple ways. Short, deep, with his legs, conservatively letting the D do the work. He's got accuracy problems, but they pay the WR's to help him out. He does a great job putting them in ideal situations. I can understand the opinions of those who think that Brunell is a liability at QB, but I would ask someone of that mindset to tell me how good of a QB they would need to have behind C for us to feel secure at the position. C'mon guys, give me a name!

Our weakness is either our kicking game or our age at key positions like TE (Fauria comes in as a FA at age 35) and DE (Can Daniels play at a high level for another year?). We have some depth problems, but so does every team in the league. It's why the NFL is such a crapshoot.

Lemar needs to stay healthy because no one else can play the middle. Sean Taylor needs to stay healthy because he's a once in a lifetime talent. The DTs need to be healthy because of a lack of depth. Brunell, Portis, and Thomas are absolutely vital on offense. Cooley would be difficult to replace, but back to the point of this thread, we have the offensive balance to cover for his absence. Goalline and 3rd and short would get real interesting personelwise.

So as long as all of those guys stay relatively healthy, we'll see you in Miami.

That Guy 06-03-2006 05:33 AM

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[quote=GTripp0012]I can understand the opinions of those who think that Brunell is a liability at QB, but I would ask someone of that mindset to tell me how good of a QB they would need to have behind C for us to feel secure at the position. C'mon guys, give me a name!


Lemar needs to stay healthy because no one else can play the middle. The DTs need to be healthy because of a lack of depth. [/quote]

Tom brady, peyton manning, carson palmer, ben roth, mcnabb, etc

marcus washington can play the middle well. In 1 LB situations he's the guy that should always be on the field.

wynn and daniels (when evan subs at DE) are depth at DT, so we're okay there, though griffin, taylor, and washington are the 3 Defensive players we need to stay healthy because the talent level is so high.

Giantone 06-03-2006 06:30 AM

Re: Redskins most balanced team in NFC East?
 
[quote=That Guy]sorry, i thought we weren't living under a rock for the last ten years. if you think al saunders and OC and gregg williams at DC are somehow worse than what NY has, well... good luck trying to argue that.

the number of DCs, and HCs in washington is insane.[/quote]

In the last 10 years how many super bowls has Al or Gregg gone to?I never said or implied that they were worse or better than NY ,what have the Skins done in the last 10 years ?You bring up the past I was responding to the question of present.:spank:

Giantone 06-03-2006 06:33 AM

Re: Redskins most balanced team in NFC East?
 
[quote=Grim21Reaper]If getting humiliated in the playoffs on your home field are the results you are looking for, give me the higher paid.

Honestly, if the G-men hadn't had 9 home games the division banner would be flying over Fed-Ex.[/quote]


LOL,honestly ...no.:benched:

That Guy 06-03-2006 06:34 AM

Re: Redskins most balanced team in NFC East?
 
[quote=Giantone]In the last 10 years how many super bowls has Al or Gregg gone to?I never said or implied that they were worse or better than NY ,what have the Skins done in the last 10 years ?You bring up the past I was responding to the question of present.:spank:[/quote]

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I'm very much talking about the present... apparently you're having issues with that though.

Giantone 06-03-2006 06:40 AM

Re: Redskins most balanced team in NFC East?
 
[quote=Darrell_Green_28]I don't understand #3.. normally Both = 2, correct? but then lists Punting AND Kickoffs AND Returns I count 3 things there.[/quote]

1) Field goals ..pretty good
2)Kickoffs........not bad ,need more downed in the end zone
3)Kickoff returns ....better starting average
4)Punter ..better hang time and placement = better coverage and less return yards.
5)Punt returns need more return yards from your guys and better pressure on the other teams punter .

Giantone 06-03-2006 06:42 AM

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I'm very much talking about the present... apparently you're having issues with that though.[/quote]

not me all I did was answer a question .:smashfrea

You brought up the last 10 years ....

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Originally Posted by Giantone
Oh sorry I thought we were talking about reality here ,coaching now not in 1990.


sorry, i thought we weren't living under a rock for the last ten years. if you think al saunders and OC and gregg williams at DC are somehow worse than what NY has, well... good luck trying to argue that.

the number of DCs, and HCs in washington is insane


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