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GTripp0012 11-11-2006 12:06 AM

Re: Gibbs: Duckett Will Carry on Short Yardage
 
[quote=61cad;242787]The Skins are going to have to resign Betts or Duckett. Which one?[/quote]If it was up to me, I would use a 2nd day pick on a back. Rutgers' Brian Leonard is a college fullback who would probably be drafted as an NFL power tailback. He might have gone first day if he came out last year, but this year he has been overshadowed by a Heisman caliber performance from Ray Rice. Also, NIU's Garrett Wolfe is a small guy with great speed and elusiveness, and could return kicks for us. These guys could both fall 3rd round or later, so theres no need to resign either Betts or Duckett. However its a buyers market for backs right now, so I expect them to let Betts and Duckett test the water, and sign back relatively cheaply.

That Guy 11-11-2006 01:48 AM

Re: Gibbs: Duckett Will Carry on Short Yardage
 
about time. i agree that the steelers will probably look at TJ at the end of the year... seems to make sense.

That Guy 11-11-2006 01:56 AM

Re: Gibbs: Duckett Will Carry on Short Yardage
 
[quote=GTripp0012;242977]If it was up to me, I would use a 2nd day pick on a back. Rutgers' Brian Leonard is a college fullback who would probably be drafted as an NFL power tailback. He might have gone first day if he came out last year, but this year he has been overshadowed by a Heisman caliber performance from Ray Rice. Also, NIU's Garrett Wolfe is a small guy with great speed and elusiveness, and could return kicks for us. These guys could both fall 3rd round or later, so theres no need to resign either Betts or Duckett. However its a buyers market for backs right now, so I expect them to let Betts and Duckett test the water, and sign back relatively cheaply.[/quote]

nah, BL is going to be drafted as a V back, to block, run and catch... kinda like griffith in atlanta or alstott in tampa... he'll probably still go towards the end of the first day.

and we won't have a 3rd round pick to use on an RB. we can FA sign a CB and draft a DE with our 1, then it's just roster fill, so resigning betts would be a good idea unless someone blows him away, which i doubt.

vaoutlaws2006 11-11-2006 10:30 AM

Re: Gibbs: Duckett Will Carry on Short Yardage
 
wow. i sure hope they play duckett some against the eagles. I wont believe it until i see it.

Defensewins 11-11-2006 03:37 PM

Re: Gibbs: Duckett Will Carry on Short Yardage
 
Gibbs should NOT announce these kind of coaching moves in the media.

1) Why publicly humiliate Portis and ruffle his feathers? The message you are putting out in the media is you are not doing it we will try someone else.
2) It gives our next opponent an advance on what we are doing. Why?
3) If Duckett fails Gibbs looks stupid. Just make the move don't telegraph it.

4mrusmc 11-11-2006 06:46 PM

Re: Gibbs: Duckett Will Carry on Short Yardage
 
I say get rid of Rock, Betts is a better kick returner. And have Sellers lead the way during heavy-jumbo.

RobH4413 11-11-2006 07:07 PM

Re: Gibbs: Duckett Will Carry on Short Yardage
 
[quote=Defensewins;243053]Gibbs should NOT announce these kind of coaching moves in the media.

1) Why publicly humiliate Portis and ruffle his feathers? The message you are putting out in the media is you are not doing it we will try someone else.
2) It gives our next opponent an advance on what we are doing. Why?
3) If Duckett fails Gibbs looks stupid. Just make the move don't telegraph it.[/quote]

Is it humiliation or motivation?

dall-assblows 11-11-2006 08:42 PM

Re: Gibbs: Duckett Will Carry on Short Yardage
 
no one can stop duckett+sellers. n o o n e e v e r i n t h e h i s t o r y o f t h e w o r l d................ e x c e p t m e o f c o u r s e !

saskin 11-11-2006 09:36 PM

Re: Gibbs: Duckett Will Carry on Short Yardage
 
[quote=Defensewins;243053]Gibbs should NOT announce these kind of coaching moves in the media.

1) Why publicly humiliate Portis and ruffle his feathers? The message you are putting out in the media is you are not doing it we will try someone else.
2) It gives our next opponent an advance on what we are doing. Why?
3) If Duckett fails Gibbs looks stupid. Just make the move don't telegraph it.[/quote]

If we can execute, it won't matter if they know what's comming. Portis should welcome this cause he won't be getting his brains beat out. He'll just (hopefully) make the highlights.

Defensewins 11-12-2006 08:56 AM

Re: Gibbs: Duckett Will Carry on Short Yardage
 
[QUOTE=saskin;243081]If we can execute, it won't matter if they know what's comming. Portis should welcome this cause he won't be getting his brains beat out. He'll just (hopefully) make the highlights.[/QUOTE]

It's not execution, it's lack of balance on offense.
The proof is in the recent superbowl winning teams, they have been balanced (pass/run) which makes them unpredictable. This causes the opposing defenses to be on their heels guessing.
One dimensional teams like Colts and Eagles (strong with the pass but average run) have come up short in the playoffs every year. The Patriots and Steelers won by running and passing and not being predictable.
Skins are good running the ball but inconsistant passing. So good teams stack the line and key on Portis. It is not Portis' fault or lack of execution, the defense has 8 to 9 guys playing the run against 6 blockers. We will lost that battle almost every time.
Our QB needs to make the defensive back 7 think about moving backwards.

Beemnseven 11-12-2006 10:13 AM

Re: Gibbs: Duckett Will Carry on Short Yardage
 
[QUOTE=GTripp0012;242977]If it was up to me, I would use a 2nd day pick on a back. Rutgers' Brian Leonard is a college fullback who would probably be drafted as an NFL power tailback. He might have gone first day if he came out last year, but this year he has been overshadowed by a Heisman caliber performance from Ray Rice. Also, NIU's Garrett Wolfe is a small guy with great speed and elusiveness, and could return kicks for us. These guys could both fall 3rd round or later, so theres no need to resign either Betts or Duckett. However its a buyers market for backs right now, so I expect them to let Betts and Duckett test the water, and sign back relatively cheaply.[/QUOTE]

Good God, man -- we have to draft defense next year, don't we?

Betts is as good as gone, and no way will the Skins let go of Duckett after what they gave up to get him. Cartwright will spend one more season in Washington, then he'll be elsewhere.

But the focus HAS to be on the defense -- 2 defensive linemen, 2 linebackers, 2 corners, a safety ... a complete overhaul is needed.

That Guy 11-14-2006 03:58 AM

Re: Gibbs: Duckett Will Carry on Short Yardage
 
[quote=Beemnseven;243123]Good God, man -- we have to draft defense next year, don't we?

Betts is as good as gone, and no way will the Skins let go of Duckett after what they gave up to get him. Cartwright will spend one more season in Washington, then he'll be elsewhere.

But the focus HAS to be on the defense -- 2 defensive linemen, 2 linebackers, 2 corners, a safety ... a complete overhaul is needed.[/quote]

we've got 4 picks, and you can't count on a 5, 6, or 7 to be starters either.

#1 DE
#5 DB
#6 ??
#7 ??
UD P

of course we could trade down, and some FAs will be available (like clements) which helps, but having more draft picks would be even better.

Daseal 11-14-2006 08:14 AM

Re: Gibbs: Duckett Will Carry on Short Yardage
 
[quote]The proof is in the recent superbowl winning teams, they have been balanced (pass/run) which makes them unpredictable. This causes the opposing defenses to be on their heels guessing.
One dimensional teams like Colts and Eagles (strong with the pass but average run) have come up short in the playoffs every year. The Patriots and Steelers won by running and passing and not being predictable.[/quote]

I don't buy that the Steelers are balanced. The Colts run much more often than the Steelers pass!

MTK 11-14-2006 08:25 AM

Re: Gibbs: Duckett Will Carry on Short Yardage
 
I really hope we don't use a draft pick on a RB, we have two very capable backups as it is, why not just resign one of them??

TheMalcolmConnection 11-14-2006 09:24 AM

Re: Gibbs: Duckett Will Carry on Short Yardage
 
[quote=That Guy;245485]we've got 4 picks, and you can't count on a 5, 6, or 7 to be starters either.

#1 DE
#5 DB
#6 ??
#7 ??
UD P

of course we could trade down, and some FAs will be available (like clements) which helps, but having more draft picks would be even better.[/quote]

I have this feeling we're going to waste two more late round picks are OL that we're just going to cut. Honestly, I feel like Bugel, if anyone, has had the game pass him by.


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