Re: Are We Critiquing the Wrong Coaches?
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;257178]Ummmm, nooooo. Perhaps he is suggesting that different successful coaches have different coaching styles. History is replete with coaches who have been successful with both a less demonstrative manner (Landry?) and those who are more demonstrative (cowher).

Your original complaint was that Gibbs is too stoic. I would suggest to you, that his demeanor on the sidelines is similar (maybe even exactly the same) as it was during his superbowl seasons.

If your going to argue a point, it would really help if you remembered what it was.[/quote]

Sorry Joe... It would help if you can fellow what everyone has posted.

I have stuck with my Gibbs comment until others posted that "Coughlin's" team has been out of control". So, the Coughlin comment and comparison to coaches like Coughlin is stupid as I pointed out.

Re: Are We Critiquing the Wrong Coaches?
 

Nooo. I did follow what everyone posted.
1) You post that Gibbs is too stoic which, being an assinine comment, was pretty much shot down by everyone (and in the interim post and juxtapose completely incongrous photos of Gibbs);

2) as an example of the error of your original comment Matty says that if hysterics were everything Coughlin - who is not doing particularly well this year even he has in the past - would not have a four game losing streak; and

3) You misconstrue Matty's comment as an assertion that showing emotion is never successful and argue that emotional coaches can succeed.

Okay, so end our lesson in Logical Thinking 101, think you can keep up?

Re: Are We Critiquing the Wrong Coaches?
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;257185]Nooo. I did follow what everyone posted.
1) You post that Gibbs is too stoic which, being an assinine comment, was pretty much shot down by everyone (and in the interim post juxtapose completely incongrous photos of Gibbs);

2) as an example of the error of your original comment Matty says that if hysterics were everything Coughlin - who is not doing particularly well this year even he has in the past - would not have a four game losing streak; and

3) You misconstrue Matty's comment as an assertion that showing emotion is never successful and argue that emotional coaches can succeed.

Okay, so end our lesson in Logical Thinking 101, think you can keep up?[/quote]

I rest my case.

Thanks Joe! LOL

Re: Are We Critiquing the Wrong Coaches?
 

[quote=celts32;256787]Gibbs looks the same on the sidelines as he did when he was collecting Super Bowl trophies. If head coach sideline hysterics had anything to do with winning football games then the Giants would never lose...[/quote]

Joe... Here is Celts post. Matty jumped in. I posted the link of a picture of Gibbs Collecting his SB trophy and this year sideline as Celts suggested.

As for Coughlin as stated by me "they won the NFC East last year"

As for hysterics... Coughlin and Cowher... pretty much hysterical coaches have proven to be winners.

Revisit Gibbs 1. The man was more animated because he was calling plays, talking to players and coaches.

Who do you think the better coach is right now....Gibbs or Cowher?

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In my humble opinion, you misinterpreted what Celts32 was saying.

Re: Are We Critiquing the Wrong Coaches?
 

[QUOTE=61cad;257361]Joe... Here is Celts post. Matty jumped in. I posted the link of a picture of Gibbs Collecting his SB trophy and this year sideline as Celts suggested.[/QUOTE]

In line with TAFKAS' comment, and to give you the benefit of the doubt. I would suggest that you have misinterpreted Celts comment.

[QUOTE=61cad;257361]As for Coughlin as stated by me "they won the NFC East last year"

As for hysterics... Coughlin and Cowher... pretty much hysterical coaches have proven to be winners.[/QUOTE]

First - I wouldn't say either coach is "hysterical" perhaps "animated" is a better term. Further, as far as I can tell, no one has contended that demonstratively emotional coaches are doomed to failure. Rather, the point has been consistently made by others that it is the overall coaching ability of an individual rather than their particular style that is the most important factor.

[QUOTE=61cad;257361]Revisit Gibbs 1. The man was more animated because he was calling plays, talking to players and coaches. [/QUOTE]

I am sorry, but my personal recollections of Gibbs sideline demeanor during that time are that he was just as stoic and stone faced as his now. First time I saw him during Gibbs II, I remember thinking that, except for a few more wrinkles, he looks just the same as he used to. Even has the same damn hat.

[QUOTE=61cad;257361]Who do you think the better coach is right now....Gibbs or Cowher?[/QUOTE]

Personally, I think both (but particularly Joe) are great coaches who have their ups and downs and whose sideline personas differ significantly.

As for who is the better coach "right now". Since Cowher is returning from an away game, he is probably drinking coffee or doing some other non-football related event, whereas Gibss is probably in meetings reviewing this weeks game plan. So, my vote would go to Gibbs at this particular moment.