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[quote=BigSKINBauer;341955]There was an article discussing if he would ever play again. Not many teams would ever like the publicity that a convicted felony dog fighter would bring. There would literally be protests in the city that would take him by PETA. Now I do think he will be back someday. Until then, f... people with mike vick on madden.[/quote]

Even aside from PETA and Humane Society protests (for ONCE, I'm actually agreeing with the whackos at PETA, now leave my KFC alone), there will be a lot of normal, everyday people who are just fans that would boycott games if their team signed Vick and not buy tickets. A team would be taking a lot of risks.

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[QUOTE=Paintrain;341950]Which is why I said 'from a sports perspective'.. Morality and sports don't really mix in my opnion. Athletes are entertainment, nothing more, nothing less. I don't look to anyone to be a better or worse person because they are athletically gifted. [B]I don't see why there is always a moral compass that athletes are held to that is more or less than a construction worker[/B].[/QUOTE]

Anyone ever pay thousands of dollars to watch construction workers eight times a year from a hundred yards away?

If so, I've got construction tickets available.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;341917]Honestly, I think the only way he could begin the healing is to donate a couple years of his salary directly to some form of animal charity.[/QUOTE]

THATS A GOOD FUCKING IDEA......... like donate half for the next 3 years, and then, and volunteer, for the next 5 years a animal abuse centers...... plus jail time, (cause he deserves it) I live in the south and I've seen many dog fights, and its not pretty, I was young, so now, I'm all against that kind of stupid stuff........ oh yeah, back to the sentence.... 12 months in Fed, 8 in halfway house,..... he gets out, suspended, 10 games next year, and signs with whoever.......... that might be exceptable to most

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[quote=Buster;341956]Even aside from PETA and Humane Society protests (for ONCE, I'm actually agreeing with the whackos at PETA, now leave my KFC alone), there will be a lot of normal, everyday people who are just fans that would boycott games if their team signed Vick and not buy tickets. A team would be taking a lot of risks.[/quote]
Good point. The only reason that the fans that are sticking with him in atlanta are doing so, is because they feel vick can't do wrong. Most people there are outraged and obviously it will be that much worse if he goes to a new city.

PETA already has reacted a bit to the news:
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txvickreaction&prov=st&type=lgns]PETA reacts to Vick plea, wants further action - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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I know, but it's my opinion. HE SHOULD BE BANNED FOR LIFE FROM THE NFL. Basically what he done is MURDER. if it were one of us we would be in jail already no bond or anything.

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[quote=Buster;341926]You're actually saying that fixing a basketball game is worse than forcing dogs to fight and then torturing them and killing them? Wow.[/quote]

Earlier on this site there was a discussion to which was "worse". I think most of us agreed that morally dog fighting is far and beyond worse. But for the sport the NBA scandal is. This is a player and something that is more important than football. The NBA scandal is league officials ruining the integrity of the game. The NBA scandal will be talked about 10-15 years down the road and counter measures will be put into place and the game will have a knock on its sholder. Vicks situation has nothing to do with the integrity of footaball. Maybe the integrity of its players but that can happen to anyone in any sport and in many professions.

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[quote=BrudLee;341964]Anyone ever pay thousands of dollars to watch construction workers eight times a year from a hundred yards away?

If so, I've got construction tickets available.[/quote]

Nice! got to get me some of them.
I'm sure they've all passed their drug tests & adhered to the very strict code of conduct standards of their industry as well. WE all know that construction workers never get DUIs, beat their wives (they just wear wife beaters), or steal anything. :)

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It saddens me to see how Vick threw away a promising career over this illegal activity. I do think he'll be back to play in the NFL, talent trumps everything. This is America, home of the second chance. Even Vick deserves one.

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[QUOTE=Cowell;341954]Because thousands of kids look up to them. They are all over the place, endorsements and what not. They are held to a higher standard morally because they are famous not because it's right.[/QUOTE]

If kids look up to athletes for anything else than their athletic ability then that is the parents fault.. Because they get paid millions, are seen by thousands and are admired by kids of all ages doesn't make them any more morally responsible than a teacher, pastor, salesman or construction worker. It's a parents job to teach that and not just when something like this goes horribly wrong.

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[QUOTE=BrudLee;341964]Anyone ever pay thousands of dollars to watch construction workers eight times a year from a hundred yards away?

If so, I've got construction tickets available.[/QUOTE]


I would Like a front row seat!

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Personally I don't see why the NFL wouldn't take this opportunity to ban him for life and avoid the public relations nightmare of ever having him wear an NFL uniform again. You've got a guy who has been engaged in illegal dogfighting activities since 2001 (the year he first came into the NFL). You've got a guy who has been illegally gambling during that entire time. You've got a guy that a significant amount of the population (i.e. NFL fans) are going to absolutely hate forever (whether that's right or wrong is no concern to the NFL.......the simple fact is MANY fans will never forgive him for this). So what does the NFL gain by ever allowing Vick back in? I see a lot of downside (protests, image problems, etc.), but not a lot of upside. On the other hand, you suspend him indefinitely/for life and you are instantly a higher category/class of organized sport than any other.

Regardless of what my or anyone else's opinion is of what the punishment SHOULD be, from the NFL's perspective, I'm not so sure this issue ever calms down to the point that the NFL feels it's better to allow Vick to play in the NFL over keeping the ban going.

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Sounds like he could get an indefinite suspension from the NFL, so it just could turn out to be for life.

I didn't realize this, but say he's out of the league until 2010 at earliest. He would be coming back at age 31... not sure how high his stock would even be at that point along with all the baggage he'll be carrying.

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[quote=Mattyk72;342069]Sounds like he could get an indefinite suspension from the NFL, so it just could turn out to be for life.

I didn't realize this, but say he's out of the league until 2010 at earliest. He would be coming back at age 31... not sure how high his stock would even be at that point along with all the baggage he'll be carrying.[/quote]

His STOCK, would amount to BLACK Friday! Vick's good ole days are gone.

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[quote=mooby;341924]But cats have no say in this discussion. At least not until someone finds a Cat to English translator. [/quote]


My wife has a pussy and I have no idea what that thing wants!

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[quote=jgalecpa;342084]My wife has a pussy and I have no idea what that thing wants![/quote]

It probably wants Michael Vick!

Anyhoo, I was wrong on this one. I didn't expect the Feds to dropkick him over a few orders of orange beef but oh well.

After Atlanta cuts him, should we pick him up? HA HA HAHA

Don't forget the soap and the toothbrush, Mike.