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redskinsfanatic 09-20-2007 11:00 AM

Re: Disgusted
 
giants have been on the turd rollercoaster ever since their two owners died!!!
where's the team discipline ? when a guy can skip all of training camp and play the 1st game,what kind of message does that send to the rest of the team?despite that,they always play tough against the redskins.

The Zimmermans 09-20-2007 11:06 AM

Re: Disgusted
 
giants still have arguably as much talent as the skins....just no coach..a horrible attitude..and a city that hates them.....=skins victory

Monkeydad 09-20-2007 11:42 AM

Re: Disgusted
 
[quote=The Zimmermans;354546]giants still have arguably as much talent as the skins....just no coach..a horrible attitude..and a city that hates them.....=skins victory[/quote]

Argurably? HA...VERY argurably.



RB is not even close. They have no one.

Their secondary is one of the worst in the league, ours is FAR better.

I'd say our LBs are better. O-Line when healthy.

Cooley over Shockey.

We have the best FB in the league.

I could even say that Campbell is better than Eli at this point.

They MIGHT have better WRs but not by much with the way Randel El has been playing this year.

The Zimmermans 09-20-2007 11:50 AM

Re: Disgusted
 
hey...I don't like the Giants, but they have talent....they always have talent...but who the hell cares. It's a team game. We have the least talented D-line in the league...But it's about discipline..playcalling...intelligence

BrudLee 09-20-2007 12:00 PM

Re: Disgusted
 
[QUOTE=Buster;354569]Argurably? HA...VERY argurably.



RB is not even close. They have no one.

Their secondary is one of the worst in the league, ours is FAR better.

I'd say our LBs are better. O-Line when healthy.

Cooley over Shockey.

We have the best FB in the league.

I could even say that Campbell is better than Eli at this point.

They MIGHT have better WRs but not by much with the way Randel El has been playing this year.[/QUOTE]

RB - agreed.
Secondary - agreed.
LBs - agreed.
TE - I love Cooley, but slow down. Shockey is a headcase, and I wouldn't trade Cooley for Shockey, but he is very talented.
FB isn't especially relevant, but since the Giants FB is a rookie, I'd say we get the edge.
QB - I'm no Eli fan, but I'd grade Campbell a promising "incomplete".
WR - Moss vs. Burress is like apples vs. oranges. And as we all know, apples always win, so us.
D-line - they get the edge right now. I wish it weren't the case, and it might not be later in the year, but it is now.
O-line - Before our injuries, us by a mile. Now Us by a hair.

skinsfan69 09-20-2007 01:04 PM

Re: Disgusted
 
[quote=Buster;354569]Argurably? HA...VERY argurably.



RB is not even close. They have no one.

Their secondary is one of the worst in the league, ours is FAR better.

I'd say our LBs are better. O-Line when healthy.

Cooley over Shockey.

We have the best FB in the league.

I could even say that Campbell is better than Eli at this point.

They MIGHT have better WRs but not by much with the way Randel El has been playing this year.[/quote]

Stop being a homer! :-)

Sorry but Eli is playing better than JC right now. It may not be the case in the future but right now Eli is better.

Shockey and Cooley are probably even. No way you can say Cooley is better. I hate Shockey but you can't deny his talent.

I would say Plaxico B. is playing as good as any WR in the NFL. I'm not saying he is better than Santana but he is going to be hard to deal with on Sun.

firstdown 09-20-2007 01:12 PM

Re: Disgusted
 
[quote=skinsfan69;354606]Stop being a homer! :-)

Sorry but Eli is playing better than JC right now. It may not be the case in the future but right now Eli is better.

Shockey and Cooley are probably even. No way you can say Cooley is better. I hate Shockey but you can't deny his talent.

I would say Plaxico B. is playing as good as any WR in the NFL. I'm not saying he is better than Santana but he is going to be hard to deal with on Sun.[/quote]
The arguement JC over Eli is that JC has found a way to win our games. I agreee with your other post.

skinsfan69 09-20-2007 01:22 PM

Re: Disgusted
 
[quote=firstdown;354609]The arguement JC over Eli is that JC has found a way to win our games. I agreee with your other post.[/quote]

That is true. But the defense had a lot to do with those wins too. Giants dropped 35 on a good Dallas defense and lost. That concerns me.

XtremeSkin1 09-20-2007 02:28 PM

Re: Disgusted
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;354616]That is true. But the defense had a lot to do with those wins too. Giants dropped 35 on a good Dallas defense and lost. That concerns me.[/QUOTE]


Skins D #1 against 3rd down conversions

Pressure Eli = Win on Sunday !

The Zimmermans 09-20-2007 02:32 PM

Re: Disgusted
 
The skins know what they need to do to win on sunday......THEY JUST NEED TO GO OUT AND DO IT!

Monkeydad 09-20-2007 03:39 PM

Re: Disgusted
 
[quote=skinsfan69;354606]Stop being a homer! :-)
[/quote]

Oh, I'm not at all. Eli has had several years to progress and like Patrick Ramsey, he's not. He still makes the same mistakes. Campbell has shown great progress from his "rookie" season last year. He's smarter on the field, is more mobile, has a better arm and seems to learn from his mistakes and actually makes himself better. Eli is mediocre and doesn't seem to be changing from that.

Besides, Manning might not even play Sunday and if he does, it's very possible he won't finish the game. Campbell will be better this week and will be better when we compare them at the ends of the careers.

Crat92 09-21-2007 01:29 AM

Re: Disgusted
 
I know Strahan's gotta be thinking "I came back for this shit?!"

djnemo65 09-21-2007 01:37 AM

Re: Disgusted
 
[QUOTE=Crat92;354870]I know Strahan's gotta be thinking "I came back for this shit?!"[/QUOTE]

And Tiki's gotta be thinking thank god I didn't

coggs 09-22-2007 05:57 PM

Re: Disgusted
 
[QUOTE=Crat92;354870]I know Strahan's gotta be thinking "I came back for this shit?!"[/QUOTE]

Strahan is the biggest problem of them all. Yesterday, I was heard an interview he gave where he blamed practices. Said they are not going full-speed in practice so not getting used to the timing and when they get to the game it becomes a lot of guessing or some non-sense like that. I wanted to puke. I thought, "well maybe if your lazy a$$ was at practice when you are SUPPOSED to go full speed, it wouldn't be a problem." I want to kick him in the mouth, but I am afraid my foot will get stuck in the gap in his teeth.

coggs 09-23-2007 07:53 PM

Re: Disgusted
 
Happy they pulled it out, but I still hate them.


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