Re: Who is "weakest" team with winning record?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;374352]People probably gave you negative reputation points because they were tired of posts like these. Why is it that every time someone wants to enjoy a win and speak positively, it's drinking the Kool Aid? Why is that every time someone complains (even after wins) they refer to themselves and their ilk as "true hardcore fans" Just because I don't want to jump off a bridge and then put a shotgun to my head after the first drop of the game, doesn't mean I'm not a true fan.[/quote]


True. But just because people are saying the Skins look like shit despite the win, doesn't mean they aren't fans either. I find it very very interesting that those of us who criticize this team are "on the bench" with reputation points, while most if not all of the Kool Aid gang are "players on the rise." Maybe cause those who have the points to give take care of their own? By the way, if someone is gonna give you negative rep points you should know who those individuals are. The whole rep points thing is pointless.

Re: Who is "weakest" team with winning record?
 

[QUOTE=paulskinsfan;374356]True. But just because people are saying the Skins look like shit despite the win, doesn't mean they aren't fans either. I find it very very interesting that those of us who criticize this team are "on the bench" with reputation points, while most if not all of the Kool Aid gang are "players on the rise." Maybe cause those who have the points to give take care of their own? By the way, if someone is gonna give you negative rep points you should know who those individuals are. The whole rep points thing is pointless.[/QUOTE]

Pointless when you don't get the points you want ;)

Seriously though, I can't speak for others but personally I've given positive points to some Cowboys fans here as well as some that said we don't have a shot at the playoffs. So this "take care of their own" nonsense is just that. Good posts are rewarded, whether I agree with them or not.

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the reason we lump it on the skins is because their the team we care about. We want the skins to win and kick ass and were tired of them struggling against crappy teams. Yes a bad win is better than a lost. But big picture this team not going anywhere until this offense pulls their weight. Where is the improvement on this team after 8 games? D starting to show some wholes, ST gave up a KO return sunday and god this offense is sad. Keeping JC underwraps makes no sense. Let the man play and let him make his mistakes and learn. 3 yard passed when its third and 5 is getting old. 8 yard passes on third and 10 etc. The skins can do better that what we all want, and yes we won which is great but let be real and say this team has to improve or we are going nowhere fast. We have a chance in this crappy NFC to make the playoffs. If we play like we have the last two weeks we wont.

Re: Who is "weakest" team with winning record?
 

[QUOTE=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;374359]the reason we lump it on the skins is because their the team we care about. We want the skins to win and kick ass and were tired of them struggling against crappy teams. Yes a bad win is better than a lost. But big picture this team not going anywhere until this offense pulls their weight. Where is the improvement on this team after 8 games? D starting to show some wholes, ST gave up a KO return sunday and god this offense is sad. Keeping JC underwraps makes no sense. Let the man play and let him make his mistakes and learn. 3 yard passed when its third and 5 is getting old. 8 yard passes on third and 10 etc. The skins can do better that what we all want, and yes we won which is great but let be real and say this team has to improve or we are going nowhere fast. We have a chance in this crappy NFC to make the playoffs. If we play like we have the last two weeks we wont.[/QUOTE]

Sure, I hear all that. I think, though, that too often we tend to put so many other teams on a higher level and ignore/refuse to acknowledge that all around the league there are teams struggling on offense, defense, special teams, front office moves, etc.

It doesn't hurt to think positive sometimes, but maybe others don't feel that way

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i can give a rat ass about the other teams. I'm just holding my team up to a higher standard of play if they want to succeed. We want to be postive but just not blinded by it, we have to look threw the forest to see the trees.

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I don't understand why we are talking about teams that don't deserve their records, think about it, the skins could'a had it a lot worse, and we have a winnable game on sunday.

Re: Who is "weakest" team with winning record?
 

[QUOTE=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;374364]i can give a rat ass about the other teams. I'm just holding my team up to a higher standard of play if they want to succeed. We want to be postive but just not blinded by it, we have to look threw the forest to see the trees.[/QUOTE]

Well then you can't really answer the question in this thread since you don't even seem to pay attention to any other teams.

Re: Who is "weakest" team with winning record?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;374368]Well then you can't really answer the question in this thread since you don't even seem to pay attention to any other teams.[/quote]


that's a good point.

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Personally, I believe I've moved on from being unimpressed to acceptance that this is the team we've got. Take away the Patriots and the Colts, and to a lesser degree the Cowchips and the Packers, and the 28 remaining teams are completely up in the air. Apart from the clubs at the very top, any of the other teams are as vulnerable or as dominant as they feel like being from week to week.

My beef isn't necessarily with the players we have now, because they are what they are, and due to ass-kicking we've been taking in the injury department, there's only so far this team is going to go. And for the most part, the players are giving us the best they're capable of -- the obvious exceptions are Santana Moss, and up until yesterday, Clinton Portis. Those are guys who need to step the hell up.

Now, a separate argument is what this front office has done to prepare for injuries, and the track record they've had over four years to right this ship. Is it legitimate to complain that we aren't in that top tier of the league? I think so. That's where my hate is directed.

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Well, sadly, we have the lowest total points scored (152) of any winning team (I'm not including the Ravens because they play tonight). We have also been outscored by our opponents this year (160), even though a third of that came in one game. So aside from the Patriots aberration we're outscoring opponents 145-108 (average game score of 20-15). Not bad. Plus our three losses are to teams that are a combined 22-3. We haven't exactly had the toughest road in our wins though, with our victories over teams that are a combined 13-28!!! That's a glaring number right there. And only 1 of our 5 wins is against a winning team (Detroit). Could we be the "weakest" team with a winning record??? I think we might be.:(

Other contenders IMO: Detroit, Tampa, Jacksonville

Re: Who is "weakest" team with winning record?
 

[QUOTE=GMScud;374373]Well, sadly, we have the lowest total points scored (152) of any winning team (I'm not including the Ravens because they play tonight). We have also been outscored by our opponents this year (160), even though a third of that came in one game. So aside from the Patriots aberration we're outscoring opponents 145-108 (average game score of 20-15). Not bad. Plus our three losses are to teams that are a combined 22-3. We haven't exactly had the toughest road in our wins though, with our victories over teams that are a combined 13-28!!! That's a glaring number right there. And only 1 of our 5 wins is against a winning team (Detroit). Could we be the "weakest" team with a winning record??? I think we might be.:(

Other contenders IMO: Detroit, Tampa, Jacksonville[/QUOTE]

Good post. Finally someone put some thought into their response here.

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[quote=SmootSmack;374374]Good post. Finally someone put some thought into their response here.[/quote]

I like to think. Thinking is my favorite.

Re: Who is "weakest" team with winning record?
 

Baltimore stinks, while they have a rock solid defense but their offense is just middle of the road at best. Like my teacher said tonight "If the Steelers get up 14-0 on the Ravens that game is over".

I think at this point in the season, the Redskins could beat the Ravens.

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;374381]Baltimore stinks, while they have a rock solid defense but their offense is just middle of the road at best. Like my teacher said tonight "If the Steelers get up 14-0 on the Ravens that game is over".

I think at this point in the season, the Redskins could beat the Ravens.[/QUOTE]

Smart teacher

Re: Who is "weakest" team with winning record?
 

Baltimore Ravens by far.