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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;438977]That is the dumbest shit I have ever read[/QUOTE]

LOL! I would have to agree. Sounds like he needs a hug...."im a football man"..meeehhhhhh...:Flush:

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SHOCKEY SPEAKS
Posted by Mike Florio on June 8, 2008, 9:52 a.m.

The “I want to be traded” playbook has developed a new wrinkle. If a players asks to be traded and isn’t traded, then he acts like he never made the request.

The latest example? Giants tight end Jeremy Shockey, who clearly wanted (wants) out of New York and who wasn’t traded because the Giants and the Saints couldn’t agree on terms.

“Everybody said that I agreed to get traded and that I would welcome a trade or that I’m unhappy,” Shockey said, according to the New York Post. “But you can’t find one article that had my direct quote, except from an anonymous source or from this person or from that person, OK?”

So the absence of a direct quote from Shockey means it wasn’t true?

If anything, Shockey’s comments about the Giants strongly imply that there’s a problem between the two parties, and that the Giants were yapping about it to the media even though Shockey chose not to do so.

“Unlike the Giants, I’m gonna be quiet,” he said. “They’ve released multiple things about myself and if you look back into the media, there’s always a source. Well I’d like to know who the source is, and we’ll go over here and we’ll deal it out ourselves because I haven’t said one negative thing towards the Giants.”

He wouldn’t talk about whether he’d welcome a trade. “I’m not saying that — no comment,” Shockey said. “Whatever’s happened between the Giants and myself is gonna stick between the Giants and myself.”

Shockey also said that he’ll attend the team’s mandatory minicamp and, presumably, training camp.

“I plan on fulfilling my contractual obligation but the No. 1 thing that I’m going there for is to be with my teammates [who] I miss so much,” Shockey said.

As to the scene of Shockey double-fisting alcoholic beverages from a luxury suite while his team played in the Super Bowl, Shockey claimed that the Giants wouldn’t allow him to be on the sidelines, and that the decision upset him.

The real question is whether both sides can find a middle ground. The Giants presumably opted not to accept New Orleans’ best offer because the Giants realize that they’d have no depth behind Kevin Boss if Shockey were traded. And Shockey’s salary is very reasonable in 2008.

So the challenge will be to keep Shockey from becoming a problem in the locker room. Or, to be more accurate, to keep him from becoming more of a problem than he’s been in the past.

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Possibly the end of the road in NY for Shockey...?

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IMHO............I think it is the end of Shockey and the Giants.People are tired of his me,me,me attitude.I won't do this or that...yeah I still believe he is the best overall TE in the game but he can't stay healthy and Eli seems to do better without him in his face.I say Send him to Cinncy for a draft pick,keep him out of the NFC and but him somewhere cold!:cheeky-sm

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i don't know how anyone could says he's the best with gates, winslow, and gonzo around.

hell, in the nfc east, i'd taken cooley or witten over him any day. his attitude is part of his game, and it doesn't make him a better player.

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[quote=That Guy;452870]i don't know how anyone could says he's the best with gates, winslow, and gonzo around.

hell, in the nfc east, i'd taken cooley or witten over him any day. his attitude is part of his game, and it doesn't make him a better player.[/quote]

I think if you're going to argue that Shockey is the best Tight End is the league your best chance of winning is arguing that when healthy Shockey is the most athletically gifted Tight End in the league, the Giants just don't use him properly but yeah, call me a Larry Michael I mean homer, but I'd take Cooley over Shockey any day.

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If you read what I said ,I said "Over All",the others are good at one thing or the other.Right now I too would take Cooley...Shockey is a head case.

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It would be great if they let him go! At the very least it would be great if he holds out of training camp for a little bit and the Giants bench him for week 1! This guy is a real good tight end...........With him out of the game all you have to do is double up Plax, stack the box and see if Eli can beat you! We all know he can't!

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[quote=Miller101;452943]It would be great if they let him go! At the very least it would be great if he holds out of training camp for a little bit and the Giants bench him for week 1! This guy is a real good tight end...........With him out of the game all you have to do is double up Plax, stack the box and [B]see if Eli can beat you! We all know he can't[/B]![/quote]

I'm not sure how well that take holds up anymore considering he won a Super Bowl.

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4 full pages, and no one wants him here? ( at vet minimum, of course)

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;452945]I'm not sure how well that take holds up anymore considering he won a Super Bowl.[/QUOTE]

It holds up very well. Eli got lucky! I mean, that dude catching the ball on his head! Come on, that was complete luck. :)

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[quote=Miller101;452964]It holds up very well. Eli got lucky! I mean, that dude catching the ball on his head! Come on, that was complete luck. :)[/quote]
The two second half drives against us in week 3 that led to TDs weren't luck. All thos eroad wins last season weren't luck. Don't let your hate for the Giants cloud your judgement. Eli is a very good QB. I admit I was totally wrong about him. He has all the tools to be a HOFer.

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[quote=Miller101;452964]It holds up very well. Eli got lucky! I mean, that dude catching the ball on his head! Come on, that was complete luck. :)[/quote]

Not really.

Consider how well he played throughout the playoffs and don't boil things down to one play. Even then I wouldn't call it luck, he did a great job at escaping the rush and keeping the play alive to just get the throw off.

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Shockey for Chad Johnson trade? :D

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^It would solve problems for both teams (and create new ones). :)