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BDBohnzie 09-11-2008 11:02 AM

Re: If the election was held today
 
Surprised no one has pulled this out yet...
[img]http://dubyad40.com/images/blogimages/brewster.jpg[/img]

I'm undecided at this point, leaning towards Obama. Even with the banter strewn across the Parking Lot, I really haven't done much research. But it's hard to, being a Registered Republican in a state that is dominated by 2 counties and a independent city. I'll get around to it and make an educated choice. But until then, it'll be swell watching the smear ads, and hearing one call the other a snake in the grass, or whatever banter they throw around.

saden1 09-11-2008 11:04 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;475004]Covey is good stuff. You ever read anything from Ken Blanchard? I'm a big fan of both.[/quote]

No, never read anything by him. Any particular book recommendation?

MTK 09-11-2008 11:07 AM

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[quote=saden1;475013]No, never read anything by him. Any particular book recommendation?[/quote]

I would start with

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/One-Minute-Manager-Kenneth-Blanchard/dp/0688014291/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221145512&sr=1-1"]Amazon.com: The One Minute Manager: Kenneth H. Blanchard, Spencer Johnson: Books[/ame]


I recently read this one:

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Leadership-One-Minute-Manager-Effectiveness/dp/0688039693/ref=pd_sim_b_2"]Amazon.com: Leadership and the One Minute Manager: Increasing Effectiveness Through Situational Leadership: Ken Blanchard, Patricia Zigarmi, Drea Zigarmi: Books[/ame]

SmootSmack 09-11-2008 11:10 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;474980]I guess it's too much to ask the candidates to stick to the issues when the people clearly cannot.

Everyone hates the propaganda machine but it obviously works when you see people buying in to the stupidest shit.[/quote]

Look at us here. We've got saden posting a bunch of YT clips and equating the Republicans with dirty tampons, Buster implying the whole left is a bunch of flag-burners, jsarno clinging to one minor little clip of Obama during the Pledge of Allegiance and saying who knows what about the antichrist, and so on.

And for the most part we're talking about people here who (even if I don't agree with their political beliefs/opinions) have shown they have pretty good knowledge of the actual issues. (Others here, of course, have shown they should just stick to football). Yet it's like no one even cares anymore about anything but belittling the other side. Hopefully, whoever it is that is elected, the country can rally around the new President and put Country First (couldn't resist :) )

GhettoDogAllStars 09-11-2008 11:33 AM

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[quote=70Chip;475010]It never seems to occurr to people that foreigners don't really want America to succeed. It's like asking me who the Cowboys should hire as their HC. I'd say, "Les Steckel!" or "Gerry Faust!" The difference is, of course, that not even Cowboy fans are stupid enough to make the opinion of an oppossing or disinterested party an argument in favor of anyone.

Let's everyone finish these two sentences:

"If Europeans are so good at judging political leaders, then how come..."

and

"The reason that Hamas wants Baraq Obama to be President is..."[/quote]

I have to disagree. People are people no matter the country, and I happen to think most are honest.

If you were following Britain's election for Prime Minister, and you participated in a similar poll, would you vote for who you think is worst?

saden1 09-11-2008 12:01 PM

Re: If the election was held today
 
[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;475033]I have to disagree. [B]People are people no matter the country, and I happen to think most are honest.[/B]

If you were following Britain's election for Prime Minister, and you participated in a similar poll, would you vote for who you think is worst?[/quote]


Oh really? Here I was thinking the only people that have America's best interest at heart are Republicans and the Republican party.

firstdown 09-11-2008 12:07 PM

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;475033]I have to disagree. People are people no matter the country, and I happen to think most are honest.

If you were following Britain's election for Prime Minister, and you participated in a similar poll, would you vote for who you think is worst?[/quote]
Britian is a bad choice because they are on our side and they want us to be as successful as they and the only real devide was the war but that was the same here. Now lets use another one like Iran. Would you want them to have a strong leader which is hard for us to deal with or a weak leader who is a push over?

saden1 09-11-2008 12:09 PM

Re: If the election was held today
 
Let's do France then. BTW the British PM sorta endorsed Obama.

GhettoDogAllStars 09-11-2008 12:34 PM

Re: If the election was held today
 
[quote=firstdown;475042]Britian is a bad choice because they are on our side and they want us to be as successful as they and the only real devide was the war but that was the same here. Now lets use another one like Iran. Would you want them to have a strong leader which is hard for us to deal with or a weak leader who is a push over?[/quote]

I know what you're saying, it just doesn't discredit the poll and/or Obama. Most of the countries polled are our allies, so it's not like our enemies are skewing the poll. In fact, Russia and China were included in the poll (not Iran), and they both prefer Obama over McCain (although the majority voted "No Difference" in Russia).

So basically, all of our allies (the people who have a vested interest in our country) want Obama.

Bottom line, no country polled favored McCain over Obama. Here's the list of countries polled:

Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, Egypt, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Italy, Kenya, Lebanon, Mexico, Nigeria, Panama, the Philippines, Poland, Russia, Singapore, Turkey, the UAE and the UK.

[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/10_09_08_ws_us_poll.pdf]Detailed poll results...[/url]

MTK 09-11-2008 02:43 PM

Re: If the election was held today
 
I hope Bill is right:

[url=http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jHMeKqFP_LzUVeindmXH3n3SkHewD934LQA80]The Associated Press: Bill Clinton predicts Obama will win 'handily'[/url]

12thMan 09-11-2008 03:28 PM

Re: If the election was held today
 
Barack H. Obama

BleedBurgundy 09-11-2008 03:35 PM

Re: If the election was held today
 
I think the real question is whether or not all of the Obama supporters actually turn up to vote. I have this idea of all of these college kids being all psyched for Obama and none of them actually putting down the joint long enough to hit the polls. Obama's supporters seem to be a louder, more fervent sort but I'm not sure that is going to translate into a victory. It will definitely be interesting...




EDIT- no insult to Obama supporters, just dealing in stereotypes to make a point. I think if any politician is counting on a "youth movement" to get them elected, they're grasping at straws in this country.

SmootSmack 09-11-2008 03:42 PM

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[quote=12thMan;475104]Barack H. Obama[/quote]

Hey so if he wins

A) Will you be joining his administration full time
B) Can you get him to do a chat with us
C) Should we start addressing you as Secretary of 12thMan

firstdown 09-11-2008 03:46 PM

Re: If the election was held today
 
I believe the polling booth is rigged by Matty because everytime I clicked McCain it switched my vote to Obama.

saden1 09-11-2008 03:52 PM

Re: If the election was held today
 
[quote=firstdown;475112]I believe the polling booth is rigged by Matty because everytime I clicked McCain it switched my vote to Obama.[/quote]

It's unnatural that McCain even gets that many votes.


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