Re: Update: Panthers Keep Gross; Improve O-Line Through Free Agency or Draft?
 

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Re: Update: Panthers Keep Gross; Improve O-Line Through Free Agency or Draft?
 

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Very insightful, padding your posting stats? LOL.

Re: Update: Panthers Keep Gross; Improve O-Line Through Free Agency or Draft?
 

Ya so right now max starks just got franchised and with gross signed, that leaves Carey and stacy Andrews as the only free agent olineman so right now it looks like we pretty much have to build our oline through the draft, the problem is that we need a DE probably more than an OL IMO, so right now it looks like we draft orakpo or oher with our first pick and with our 3rd rounder we get a G or C

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[quote=Nflnick11;528143]Ya so right now max starks just got franchised and with gross signed, that leaves Carey and stacy Andrews as the only free agent olineman so right now it looks like we pretty much have to build our oline through the draft, the problem is that we need a DE probably more than an OL IMO, so right now it looks like we draft orakpo or oher with our first pick and with our 3rd rounder we get a G or C[/quote]

Very good points. I would say that if the team wants to go the cheap route, they could get Andrews, but it is a risk given that he got injured. I would prefer that they get Carey and put him at RT. Of course, this scenario would require that the 3rd rounder does better than Rineheart.

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[quote=Ruhskins;528151]Very good points. I would say that if the team wants to go the cheap route, they could get Andrews, but it is a risk given that he got injured. I would prefer that they get Carey and put him at RT. Of course, this scenario would require that the 3rd rounder does better than Rineheart.[/quote]

A few thoughts though:
Supposedly Andrews said he's doing well and rehab right now is a success, and he can play both guard and tackle... But he maybe saying that he's doing well just because he's going to be a free agent soon

I really haven't seen Carey play, is he the real deal or just a short term resolution, and what is he age wise??

About your third comment, we can always trade down and get someones 2nd rounder, I beleive that the pats giants and dolphins(ours sadly) have 2 2nd rounders ... Plus I was thinking we could get brandon williams of Texas tech who led the big 12 in sacks with 13 is someone we could get here, or maybe a phil loadholt of Oklahoma or Tyrone Green of auburn are other options here(OT and OG) or maybe Ramses Barden WR , of Cal poly who's 6'6 and has spectacular hands he's also from zorns alma matter... Gerald Mcrath OLB of southern miss is another option here ... Part of the reason why I think rhinehart didn't play/wasn't ready as a 3rd rounder is because he went to a small school like northern iowa and not a school that doesn't face NFL level talent like a auburn, tech, etc

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Khalif Barnes and Jon Stinchcomb are possibilities as well.

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Would Carey command Gross type money? If yes, then we need to look at Stacy Jones and try to find a trade partner in the latter first and get an extra pick. Getting Alex Mack and say Connor Barwin/Ron Brace etc... would be better overall than getting Oher or Orakpo @ 13.

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[quote=Hamoskinz;528156]Would Carey command Gross type money? If yes, then we need to look at Stacy Jones and try to find a trade partner in the latter first and get an extra pick. [B]Getting Alex Mack and say Connor Barwin/Ron Brace etc... would be better overall than getting Oher or Orakpo @ 13[/B].[/quote]

I agree 100%! I like your thinking Hamoskinz!

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I don't get why people hate oher, he's a real good OT who would be moved to RT if he gets here...Orakpo is the best DE in the draft FYI, maybin is too skinny and is a one year player who hates stoping the run

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[quote=SmootSmack;528155]Khalif Barnes and Jon Stinchcomb are possibilities as well.[/quote]

I thought they are both in like their 8 years, cause if they are I'm gonna pass

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[quote=Nflnick11;528168]I don't get why people hate oher, he's a real good OT who would be moved to RT if he gets here...Orakpo is the best DE in the draft FYI, maybin is too skinny and is a one year player who hates stoping the run[/quote]

I don't think anyone hates Oher. Mack is a very good player who could start at center or guard and Brace or Barwin would help our defense. We need all the help we can get.

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[quote=53Fan;528170]I don't think anyone hates Oher. Mack is a very good player who could start at center or guard and Brace or Barwin would help our defense. We need all the help we can get.[/quote]

ya macks a great player, but not at 13 unless we trade down, Brace though is only good because he played next to Raji (imo) and Barwin isn't as good as Brandon williams Texas Tech DE who led the Big 12 in sacks with 13

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I also don't hate Oher or Orakpo, but I think with slim pickings in FA, I would try to fill our needs as much as possible in the draft but still be able to pick top talent. If nothing else, I am happy with Michael Oher or Brian Orakpo but if given the chance for a trade to a later pick in the 1st round plus extra pick(s) (2nd or 3rd etc...), I would take that option first.

Also, Nflnick stated some interesting prospects who we can look if we can trade down onto late first - late second.

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[quote=Nflnick11;528171]ya macks a great player, but not at 13 unless we trade down, Brace though is only good because he played next to Raji (imo) and Barwin isn't as good as Brandon williams Texas Tech DE who led the Big 12 in sacks with 13[/quote]

I agree with Hamoskinz completely. Trade down and pick up Mack and another pick. Brace was overshadowed by Raji as most players would be, that doesn't mean he isn't any good. I would take Barwin over Williams any day.

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[quote=Nflnick11;528169]I thought they are both in like their 8 years, cause if they are I'm gonna pass[/quote]

Barnes is only 26 years old. I think Stinchcomb is 30