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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;529061]Do you want Haynesworth enough that you'd also not sign DeAngelo Hall, cut Springs, cut Griffin, not find a suitable replacement for Marcus Washington, and go into the season with Carlos Rogers (if hes not traded) and Fred Smoot as our starting cornerbacks?... because thats what it would mean. The contract Haynesworth will sign will be the equivalent of the contract for atleast 4 other QUALITY starters for our defense.

Unless the market for Haynesworth completely dematerializes and he wants to sign for us for the "vet minimum" because he loves the redskins so much, he's not worth it.[/quote]

I believe they can figure out a way to get it done, They always do. Besides would replacing Griffin with haynesworth and letting Springs and Washington go be all that bad. I think they can backload his contract and pray he'll restructure in the future.

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I think haynesworth would be a fantastic addition to our defense, but I can't see us signing him with our current cap situation. I would much rather have springs and hall than haynesworth, and although I wouldn't really mind if taylor came back next season, it looks like he's going to, which really doesn't leave us with any cap room.

If he took a big pay cut or agreed to receive most of his salary as a bonus then MAYBE, but I don't think we can objectively look at obtaining haynesworth unless he's shopped around and sees his price go down.

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[quote=horse;529098]I believe they can figure out a way to get it done, They always do. Besides would replacing Griffin with haynesworth and letting Springs and Washington go be all that bad. I think they can backload his contract and pray he'll restructure in the future.[/quote]

backload and restructure? [I]THATS[/I] your plan? That philosophy is why the skins have one of the oldest, least talented rosters in the league - while at the same time having no cap room to add young, talented, rising stars. And if you argue that our roster is really talented, then you should take off your burgundy colored glasses and start watching other teams play regularly for a change - Ths skins have several outstanding players, but overall, they arent that good.

Doing what you suggest would result in an uncuttable 32 year old Haynesworth who hasnt performed in years carrying a 25 Million cap figure in 4 years. No thanks.

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[quote=takethecake;529102]I think haynesworth would be a fantastic addition to our defense, but I can't see us signing him with our current cap situation. I would much rather have springs and hall than haynesworth, and although I wouldn't really mind if taylor came back next season, it looks like he's going to, which really doesn't leave us with any cap room.

If he took a big pay cut or agreed to receive most of his salary as a bonus then MAYBE, but I don't think we can objectively look at obtaining haynesworth unless he's shopped around and sees his price go down.[/quote]

exactly. He certainly doesnt deserve to be the highest paid defensive player in history. I wouldnt even give him top DT money. If snyder does push for haynesworth, all it will prove is that he doesnt care about this team and only wants to sell jerseys.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;529106]exactly. He certainly doesnt deserve to be the highest paid defensive player in history. I wouldnt even give him top DT money. If snyder does push for haynesworth, all it will prove is that he doesnt care about this team and only wants to sell jerseys.[/quote]

I really doubt it, I hope that Snyder has grown up that much with Gibbs to not go after the sexy free agents at the expense of the team's salary cap.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;529103]backload and restructure? [I]THATS[/I] your plan? That philosophy is why the skins have one of the oldest, least talented rosters in the league - while at the same time having no cap room to add young, talented, rising stars. And if you argue that our roster is really talented, then you should take off your burgundy colored glasses and start watching other teams play regularly for a change - Ths skins have several outstanding players, but overall, they arent that good.

Doing what you suggest would result in an uncuttable 32 year old Haynesworth who hasnt performed in years carrying a 25 Million cap figure in 4 years. No thanks.[/quote]
you and i don't agree on much, but in my opinion, your dead on with this post. i smell trouble, once he gets his money

Re: King predicts Haynesworth to Redskins
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;529103]backload and restructure? [I]THATS[/I] your plan? That philosophy is why the skins have one of the oldest, least talented rosters in the league - while at the same time having no cap room to add young, talented, rising stars. And if you argue that our roster is really talented, then you should take off your burgundy colored glasses and start watching other teams play regularly for a change - Ths skins have several outstanding players, but overall, they arent that good.

Doing what you suggest would result in an uncuttable 32 year old Haynesworth who hasnt performed in years carrying a 25 Million cap figure in 4 years. No thanks.[/quote]

Nice post BigHair. Tell it!

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[quote=horse;529098]I believe they can figure out a way to get it done, They always do. Besides would replacing Griffin with haynesworth and letting Springs and Washington go be all that bad. I think they can backload his contract and pray he'll restructure in the future.[/quote]

Unless the market is non-existent, I don't know why Haynesworth would agree to a contract where the money is on the back end. He's going to want serious dollars up front and guaranteed (a la Asamougha).

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;529128]Unless the market is non-existent, I don't know why Haynesworth would agree to a contract where the money is on the back end. [B]He's going to want serious dollars up front and guaranteed (a la Asamougha)[/B].[/quote]

Agreed. And from what I understand Tampa Bay is going to push hard for him. They're way under the cap, so they can meet his up front needs.

Re: King predicts Haynesworth to Redskins
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;529103]backload and restructure? [I]THATS[/I] your plan? That philosophy is why the skins have one of the oldest, least talented rosters in the league - while at the same time having no cap room to add young, talented, rising stars. And if you argue that our roster is really talented, then you should take off your burgundy colored glasses and start watching other teams play regularly for a change - Ths skins have several outstanding players, but overall, they arent that good.

Doing what you suggest would result in an uncuttable 32 year old Haynesworth who hasnt performed in years carrying a 25 Million cap figure in 4 years. No thanks.[/quote]

OK, why are you still operating under the assumption there will be a salary cap? Certainly nobody can say for sure, but all signs point to there not being one. This will provide further background information.

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/salary-cap-central/27715-current-redskins-salary-cap-status-2009-a-11.html#post526728[/URL]

Further, Upshaw was completely serious and truthful when saying that the players would never go back to a salary cap if it expires. The NFL Owners can easily put together a revenue sharing package contingent upon setting a salary floor for the 32 teams. If you don't pay your players at least X, you don't get revenue sharing dollars.

The salary cap limit has gotten so high in recent years that most NFL teams maintain payrolls well below the cap in the interests of turning a profit, and for some, just trying to break even. Not many franchises are currently constrained by the cap. Doing away with it would result in a few teams dropping below the salary floor, but it would also result in the Cowboys and Redskins shooting well above the cap ceiling. There would be no financial incentive for the players to ever agree to going back to a cap, especially if the owners put a salary floor in place with respect to revenue sharing.

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schneed, if this is the case, whats stopping teams like the redskins from signing players at a modest 2009 salary, and then paying out top dollar afterwards?

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Let's just understand that if there is an uncapped year in 2010 there will be a lot more differences than simply no cap. This should help

[url=http://www.cincyjungle.com/2009/1/16/725767/q-and-a-about-the-nfl-s-up]Q and A about the NFL's upcoming uncapped season - Cincy Jungle[/url]

Re: King predicts Haynesworth to Redskins
 

DS got so much money it really will not matter. The question is; this Guy Haynesworth, will he fit in? You throw a bunch of cash at these guys and you never know... It's a crap shoot; something we all should be used to.. The danny just wants to fill the seats, and I'm sure, win. When we do win our next superbowl, other owners will be skeptical on his methods because they have become unsound.

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lordy, i dont want this guy. period. sure he is a monster on the line, but lets not forget he only been like that for what the last two years? plus lets not forget that time when he steped on gurode with his cleat. I think he brings to much baggage, sooo no thank you move on.

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Great link SS!