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[quote=WestCoastSkinsFan;537878]Ladell Betts. I don't know what it is, but I hate him as a player. I cringe and curse every time I see him on the field for the past 2 years or so.[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I agree to a point with you. I don't really hate him as a player but it seems to me every time he get the ball in a tough situation he fumbles.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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Id get rid of Ladell even if we didnt have to cut a player

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i disagree betts is a good back he just needs carries.....hows this for a swing of things PORTIS!!!!!!!! not to cut but trade hes older and not many backs make it past 30 trade him before the downside of his career happens just a suggestion

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[quote=steven4est;538629]i disagree betts is a good back he just needs carries.....hows this for a swing of things PORTIS!!!!!!!! not to cut but trade hes older and not many backs make it past 30 trade him before the downside of his career happens just a suggestion[/quote]

Only if we could do the Herschel Walker trade all over again and get a ton of picks for him. LOL.

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Under current circumstances I'd cut (and I know i'll take shit for this) Rock. We need more explosiveness in KR/PR and he's a terrible option at RB. I'm looking for the FO to draft a RB in the 5th or 6th round anyway... so we save about $800k in cap space and have Devin as our KR and a young change-of-pace back behind Portis/Betts.

2nd choice: James Thrash
3rd choice: Rabach but only if we draft Mack/Unger or get a quality guy in FA.

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[quote=The Goat;538642]Under current circumstances I'd cut (and I know i'll take shit for this) Rock. We need more explosiveness in KR/PR and he's a terrible option at RB. I'm looking for the FO to draft a RB in the 5th or 6th round anyway... so we save about $800k in cap space and have Devin as our KR and a [B]young change-of-pace back behind Portis/Betts.
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2nd choice: James Thrash
3rd choice: Rabach but only if we draft Mack/Unger or get a quality guy in FA.[/quote]

Why wouldn't you just cut Betts and get a change of pace back behind Portis?

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[quote=jamf;537895]Rabach.

I'm still bitter about his penalty against the chargers a few years ago.[/quote]

how could you forget his bone head play that cost us the Rams game last year

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[quote=bigdaddy2348;538645]how could you forget his bone head play that cost us the Rams game last year[/quote]

Are you talking about the Kendall fumble returned for TD to end the half.

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What about letting backup QB Collins go. Anybody know how much we could possibly save getting rid of him?

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We could let Cartwright go since we have the special KR we signed in free-agency. We also have the backup Broncos RB that is suppose to be decent. We could consider letting Betts go also.

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[quote=steven4est;538629]i disagree betts is a good back he just needs carries.....hows this for a swing of things PORTIS!!!!!!!! not to cut but trade hes older and not many backs make it past 30 trade him before the downside of his career happens just a suggestion[/quote]

Betts has been here for 7 years and only had one good season. He has had chances but has either been hurt or just didnt get it done. He is nothing more than a backup and we should have traded him when we had the chance.

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[quote=RedskinMike;538664]Betts has been here for 7 years and only had one good season. He has had chances but has either been hurt or just didnt get it done. He is nothing more than a backup and we should have traded him when we had the chance.[/quote]

Thank you. I don't really know where this man crush on Ladell comes from.

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Reed Doughty.

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[quote=WaldSkins;538666]Thank you. I don't really know where this man crush on Ladell comes from.[/quote]

It doesnt have anything to do with a man crush. A couple of years ago when Portis was hurt, Betts did great. He hasn't had that many carries since. I don't where the idea of him having so many chances comes from. Put Portis in for 4 or 5 carries a game and see how he does. We could have Sproles behind Portis and he still isn't going to do much if you don't give him the ball. Betts got about 4.67 carries a game in 13 games last year. What kind of numbers are you looking for?

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[quote=53Fan;538669]It doesnt have anything to do with a man crush. A couple of years ago when Portis was hurt, Betts did great. He hasn't had that many carries since. I don't where the idea of him having so many chances comes from. Put Portis in for 4 or 5 carries a game and see how he does. We could have Sproles behind Portis and he still isn't going to do much if you don't give him the ball. Betts got about 4.67 carries a game in 13 games last year. What kind of numbers are you looking for?[/quote]

Took the words...

I mean sure Betts has disappointed from time to time, especially w/ the fumbles. But in all his time in the NFL the one opportunity he got to carry a team he racked up yards like, wait for it, L. Tomlinson. Betts started every game the 2nd half of the '06 season and the only RB to compile more yards in that span was LT. True shit check it out everybody. I think it's on Zorn to utilize Betts and change our rushing scheme. Basically, I think Ladell should be our work-horse in the 1st half of every game, getting lots of carries in a row cuz when in rhythm he's solid. This way Portis can 1) have a shot at defenses a bit worn down so he gets more breakaway opportunities 2) stay healthier longer in the season. Personally, i don't believe we'll be a contender for anything as long as CP is wore out by week 10.

... obviously Betts has to fix the fumbles to make this plan work. Coaching has to be a part of the problem/solution and I sort of think back to how NY worked intensively w/ Tiki to fix this issue.