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Re: Grade the Redskins Draft!
[quote=GMScud;551502][B]Robinson's performance in the Natn'l Championship against a fast SEC defense was downright pathetic.[/B] He got blown by multiple times, drew 3 or 4 penalties, and even got benched for a few series. It hurt him significantly I think.
But this thread isn't asking you to grade the off-season.[/quote] That was one game. Robinson was four starter and started as a true freshman at LT. All of this in the SEC. So what did Cody Glenn do that made him a better prospect than Robinson? Gleen started one year at a not so good Nebraska team? Don't get it. No logic there. |
Re: Grade the Redskins Draft!
[quote=GMScud;551501]Well, if you get two quality starters out of a draft, it was probably pretty successful, especially without a 2nd rounder.[/quote]
That is a pretty low expectation level. When the Giants won it they nailed something like 7 picks. |
Re: Grade the Redskins Draft!
[quote=Defensewins;551511]That was one game. Robinson was four starter and started as a true freshman at LT. All of this in the SEC. So what did Cody Glenn do that made him a better prospect than Robinson?[/quote]
1st of all, Duke Robinson played for Oklahoma. Last time I checked that's in the Big 12. 2nd, I never said Cody Glenn was a better prospect. In fact, I would have been much happier with Duke than Glenn. I'm just pointing out something that probably hurt his stock. If you don't think one game can make a guy plummet in the draft, see our very own Colt Brennan. After what Georgia did to Hawaii in that BCS game, Brennan fell far and fast. Granted it was mostly the O-line's fault, just saying. |
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[quote=GMScud;551513]1st of all, Duke Robinson played for Oklahoma. Last time I checked that's in the Big 12.
2nd, I never said Cody Glenn was a better prospect. In fact, I would have been much happier with Duke than Glenn. I'm just pointing out something that probably hurt his stock. If you don't think one game can make a guy plummet in the draft, see our very own Colt Brennan. After what Georgia did to Hawaii in that BCS game, Brennan fell far and fast. Granted it was mostly the O-line's fault, just saying.[/quote] Duke Robinson in the 5th would've been a steal. |
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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;551512]That is a pretty low expectation level. When the Giants won it they nailed something like 7 picks.[/quote]
I said quality starters. That Giants team got contributions from 7 or 8 guys, not 7 starters. Also, that was a serious exception (which was why it was talked about so much), not the norm for a "good" draft. |
Re: Grade the Redskins Draft!
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;551512]That is a pretty low expectation level. When the Giants won it they nailed something like 7 picks.[/quote]
GMScud is right. The Giants got 7 contributors, not 7 starters, out of that draft. They also had 10 or 11 picks that draft and we had about half of that this year. No one starts 7 rookies unless they are the Lions. If every team got 7 starters out of every draft, there'd be even more turnover in the NFL every year. Two starters is a reasonable expectation and we may have gotten two. |
Re: Grade the Redskins Draft!
[quote=Trample the Elderly;551515]Duke Robinson in the 5th would've been a steal.[/quote]
Maybe. Duke is wrapped in red flags. He does us no good if he's on suspension, as he was in college more than once. |
Re: Grade the Redskins Draft!
[quote=Soup's Uncle;551420]I'm thinking we're going to make a trade for a bomb right tackle...I can feel it.[/quote]
Shouldn't have to trade for a bomb OT w/ all the studs getting taken in the draft...some talented vets are bound to be cut. But I get your drift SU...if the FO is serious about giving JC and the offense consistency we need to add a very talented OT to our roster. |
Re: Grade the Redskins Draft!
I was kinda shocked. I could not get on this web site all day. busy, busy, busy. Oh well. lol.
Now I graded it a C. I love the 1st round pick I guess. This a long with AH should make us a beast on defense. Then I kinda expected some OL. Only cause offense was our weakness last yr. Defense was ranked 4th. Go figure. All in all I figured since they went mostly offense last yr they probubly felt they should go mostly defense this yr. I'm excited to see what CB Kevin Barnes brings. He seemed like a real hitter but the mags said he injured his colar bone and had a pin put in. Wonder how well it will hold up. I know nothing about the two LB's we picked. I thought they had ideas of moving Chris Wilson to LB. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I never saw that they picked a TE/FB. I don't know why. They have Davis and Cooley. Unless they are trying to see if this guy is better then Sellers or Yoder. I'm excited about the WR. Even though he's a late pick and most likely camp fodder, I like the fact their bringing someone else in, in case Kelly has a set back. |
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I hope the cornerback, Barnes, can put some weight on but keep his speed. If so, he could be a great.
I give the draft a B by the way, it will produce 2 starters with the few picks we had and I think we passed on the O-line talent in the 5th for a reason (we have a plan), but only time will tell. |
Re: Grade the Redskins Draft!
[quote=GMScud;551502]Robinson's performance in the Natn'l Championship against a fast SEC defense was downright pathetic. He got blown by multiple times, drew 3 or 4 penalties, and even got benched for a few series. It hurt him significantly I think.
But this thread isn't asking you to grade the off-season.[/quote] I know, not grading the off-season here. Just giving the draft a C. I give Orakpo and Barnes both A's. Glenn a B-, Henson and Mitchell Ds, and Mitchell a C+. I give more weight to the early picks because they are higher picks so they (the team) should hit on those. So somehow that averages out to a C, :) |
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[quote=The Goat;551523]Shouldn't have to trade for a bomb OT w/ all the studs getting taken in the draft...some talented vets are bound to be cut. But I get your drift SU...if the FO is serious about giving JC and the offense consistency [B]we need to add a very talented OT to our roster.[/B][/quote]
Bingo. The problem is that there weren't any of these after the second round. Overall it was one of the weakest OL classes in years. We could have drafted Oher instead of Orakpo. We could have not traded for Jason Taylor and used that pick to get Beatty or Loadholt (it's a bit late to rescind that trade, though). We could have traded back from #13 but apparently we tried but did not get good offers to do so. That leaves us with doing our offensive line shopping elsewhere. I think that is now the plan. IMO it is not a bad one. |
Re: Grade the Redskins Draft!
I gave us a C, might should have given us a B...not for what we got, but that we did not trade any of the 2010 picks away. Other quick comment...getting a top 3 pick to too expensive for unproven talent
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Who could realize at it at the time...but Daniels knee injury equalled a second round pick.
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Re: Grade the Redskins Draft!
[quote=Boston Brave;551540]I gave us a C, might should have given us a B...not for what we got, [B]but that we did not trade any of the 2010 picks away[/B]. Other quick comment...getting a top 3 pick to too expensive for unproven talent[/quote]
You are right! Next year's draft is intact (for now) and should be richer in talent. That's COOL. |
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