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MTK 05-04-2009 10:32 AM

re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)
 
Kelly wasn't supposed to participate in this mini camp anyway. Nothing has changed in that regard and bringing in camp bodies is not a signal that they are worried about Kelly. I know it's been a while since we've had any real news but man, people need to chill.

SBXVII 05-04-2009 10:55 AM

re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)
 
^I'll stay worried until someone can explain his issue better. Have there been any WR's that have the same issue he does; ie, degenreative knee disease, that have gone on to have successfull careers? and if I may ask....whome. I'm not trying to be an idiot just wondering how bad his issue is and can he play. Will he have soreness all the time or swelling? Will he end up sitting out games due to swelling and are we prepared to fill that spot if he's out?

If all these questions are a moot point then fine. Heal up Kelly and bring it so we can have another weapon. If these questions are serious concerns then this preseason is going to be his make or break it season I would guess. If he has to sit out too much I can see the team cutting their losses. Which may be why they are bringing in other WR's not only to try out but in case Kelly can't get his knees healthy enough to be a starter. Either way I'm glad they got some other warm bodies until he heals completely cause they need people to throw to.

Having said all that I guess I was looking for a new Rook to rally behind and it was either going to be Marco Mitchell or Keith Elio or both if they could make the team....now we picked up Washington and Hacket. I guess I would rather have someone who could step in immediatly and be a threat though.

53Fan 05-04-2009 11:08 AM

re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)
 
Would it be better to play Kelly and Thomas and take the chance of turning minor injuries into major ones? In May?

MTK 05-04-2009 11:11 AM

re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)
 
Kellen Winslow had microfracture surgery prior to the 2007 season and went on to post 82/1106/5.

Reggie Bush underwent microfracture surgery back in January.

Kelly's procedure wasn't as extensive as they thought it would need to be.

[quote]Wide receiver Malcolm Kelly said he plans to be fully cleared to participate in June's organized team activities and was relieved that his latest knee surgery was not as extensive as first thought. Kelly, who had a history of knee issues in college and as a rookie last year, underwent microfracture surgery in February, with doctors having to do less repair work than they'd anticipated.

"They thought they were going to have to microfracture the whole thing," Kelly said. "But when they went in they found it had healed up a lot more than they thought, so they just had to microfracture a little part. And I actually had a little bone that they shaved down a little bit, and that really helped out a lot of the stuff. When they went and did that and finally fixed it instead of just trying to clean it up, like the first time, it helped out a whole lot."

A procedure that would have involved his entire knee would have put him months behind where he is now. "When you have to do the whole knee there's a bigger risk," Kelly said.

Kelly is doing drills on a side field during minicamp, but said he is optimistic that his knee problems are behind him. Kelly's knee routinely swelled up throughout last season and he was unable to practice for more than a few weeks at a time. Kelly said his flexibility is better than ever.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-la-canfora/malcolm-kelly-had-microfractur.html]Redskins Insider - Kelly Recovering from Microfracture Surgery[/url][/quote]

CRedskinsRule 05-04-2009 11:18 AM

re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)
 
[quote=Mattyk72;554603]Kellen Winslow had microfracture surgery prior to the 2007 season and went on to post 82/1106/5.

Reggie Bush underwent microfracture surgery back in January.

Kelly's procedure wasn't as extensive as they thought it would need to be.[/quote]

Can anyone answer this? What level of medical talent do top college prospects get. I mean when professional teams look into the medical records are they making an assumption that more can be done for pros than at the college level? Is that a true assumption? I would think so, money wise, and I know Kelly has said several times that he learned a LOT about the muscle and knee structure once he got to Redskins Park.
Just curious about it. Thanks all

2BIG2BSKINNY 05-04-2009 11:34 AM

re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)
 
[quote=GMScud;554388]I actually think Hackett has the better shot to be a contributor in 2009. Not sure how he is on special teams, but the combination of his size and experience with Zorn/WCO sets up a nice hedge in case the struggles continue for Kelly and Thomas. He could turn into a solid possession receiver for us potentially.

Last year around this time I was all for signing Hackett, as were a bunch of folks here.[/quote]

Good point... but with a past With Zorn and this offense could help the younger receivers as well. I remember a year or so ago all on this web site were hot and bothered about trying to get Hackett in free agency... It would of been expensive!

Now we get a useful WR in an offense he knows at a good price. Good move as of right now. He has not lit up the league like some thought but could be productive in this system and help the [B]young wonder twins (kelly, Thomas)[/B]
You know like " [I][B]I [U]wonder[/U] when these two guys will start producing...[/B][/I]"

SBXVII 05-04-2009 02:02 PM

re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)
 
Who we have a WR so far:

Moss @ 5ft-10in
ARE @ 5ft-10in
Thrash @ 6ft-0in
Kelly @ 6ft-4in
Thomas @ 6ft-2in
Hacket @ 6ft-2in
Shelton @ 6ft-0in
Washington @ 6ft-3in
Hagans @ 5ft-10in
Halman @ 6ft-3in
Mitchell @ 6ft-3in
J.Williams @ 6ft-5in
Elio @ 6ft-1in
Breaux @ 6ft-6in
R.Williams @ 6ft-0in

vallin21 05-04-2009 02:07 PM

re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)
 
[quote=SBXVII;554654]Who we have a WR so far:

Moss @ 5ft-10in
ARE @ 5ft-10in
Thrash @ 6ft-0in
Kelly @ 6ft-4in
Thomas @ 6ft-2in
Hacket @ 6ft-2in
Shelton @ 6ft-0in
[B]Washington @ ?[/B]Hagans @ 5ft-10in
Halman @ 6ft-3in
Mitchell @ 6ft-3in
Williams @ 6ft-5in
[B]Elio @ ?[/B]
[B]Breaux @ ? supposedly the tallest[/B].[/quote]

Washington is 6'3, Breaux is 6'6, and Elio is 6'1

SBXVII 05-04-2009 03:07 PM

re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)
 
^ Thanks bro. I fixed it. Not only do we have Jaison Williams as I listed him above we just signed Roydell Williams along with Shelton. Roydell Williams played with the Titans previously:

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redskins_Add_Williams__Shelton_to_Wide_Receivers_35114.jsp]News & Notes: Redskins Sign Williams, Shelton[/url]


I guess they are definitly making an effort to upgrade the WR position.

ChickenMonkey 05-04-2009 03:18 PM

re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)
 
[quote=SBXVII;554667]^ Thanks bro. I fixed it. Not only do we have Jaison Williams as I listed him above we just signed Roydell Williams along with Shelton. Roydell Williams played with the Titans previously:

[URL="http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redskins_Add_Williams__Shelton_to_Wide_Receivers_35114.jsp"]News & Notes: Redskins Sign Williams, Shelton[/URL]


I guess they are definitly making an effort to upgrade the WR position.[/quote]

3 Cheers for the FO, its about time they started being pro active and not reactive. No need to wait for the two 2nd rounder to stink up another season. We painted ourselves into a corner last yr, they have learned from that mistake

Hamoskinz 05-04-2009 03:22 PM

re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)
 
Wow. I hope Roydell Williams or DJ Hackett can make the squad. They are not the flashiest option but they can be solid #2 or #3 wrs. I like the effort to upgrade our passing game.

Pocket$ $traight 05-04-2009 03:37 PM

re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)
 
[quote=Hamoskinz;554671]Wow. I hope Roydell Williams or DJ Hackett can make the squad. They are not the flashiest option but they can be solid #2 or #3 wrs. I like the effort to upgrade our passing game.[/quote]

I agree. It is very smart to not count on the draft picks and Thrash as starters/depth. None of them should be looked at as a contributor at this time.

I am wondering how close they are to giving up on Kelly. Does he even deserve a roster spot if this thing lingers into August and September?

Skinny Tee 05-04-2009 04:24 PM

re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)
 
[quote=SBXVII;554654]Who we have a WR so far:

Moss @ 5ft-10in
ARE @ 5ft-10in
Thrash @ 6ft-0in
Kelly @ 6ft-4in
Thomas @ 6ft-2in
Hacket @ 6ft-2in
Shelton @ 6ft-0in
Washington @ 6ft-3in
Hagans @ 5ft-10in
Halman @ 6ft-3in
Mitchell @ 6ft-3in
J.Williams @ 6ft-5in
Elio @ 6ft-1in
Breaux @ 6ft-6in
R.Williams @ 6ft-0in[/quote]

Do we have Hackett?

I thought he was still waiting for a better contract from someone. I heard we offered a contract but it hadn't been signed yet.

dmek25 05-04-2009 04:29 PM

re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)
 
please don't tell me we are back to the skins receivers aren't tall enough argument?

skinsfan_nn 05-04-2009 04:30 PM

re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)
 
[quote=Skinny Tee;554678][B]Do we have Hackett?[/B]

I thought he was still waiting for a better contract from someone. I heard we offered a contract but it hadn't been signed yet.[/quote]

Not at this time. I do hope these moves today shore up the WR needs, Hackett had some family issues? Washington is looking into all his options, for now.

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/may/04/washingtonhackett-update/]Washington/Hackett update - Redskins 360 - Washington Times[/url]


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