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[quote=RedskinRat;590177]He has zero ability to turn lead into gold using only his mind or even teleport small muffins across the table at meetings.

Documented FACT![/quote]


I guess that just about sums it up in a nutshell. I'd still like to hear how Trample The Elderly describes it.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;590169]On the pick, both he and the corner were trying to toe tap the line as the ball was actually caught outside the plane of the playing field. The corner had the inside edge on a ball thrown slightly behind Moss as Moss was fighting the momentum carrying him out of bounds. On top of that, the QB was well past the yard marker.

Hard to accuse Moss of giving up on a route that had carried all but his toes out of bounds, thrown slightly behind him, and on which the QB had already gone beyond the line of scrimmage (how can you give up on a pass route when the play can no longer legally be considered a pass??). The pick was all Jason.

Sometimes you guys hate just to hate. I mean jeeez.[/quote]

That was a pretty picture you painted partner but I saw it differently. I saw that Moss was possibly supposed to run an out route. He ran up and started out. He slowed down to almost a walk. When seeing JC scrambling he continued his route at a slow jog and ran toward the side line. At the point JC was scrambling He was only 5yrds off the side line. He had to stop to keep his toes in bounds no doubt. The defender ran into him (which I still think should have been a foul) knocking him out of bounds prior to the interception.

All JC...no. Sorry. When he saw his QB was in trouble he should have came back to the ball, changed his out route to an in route/slant, faked the defender with a stop and go...anything but he didn't. He continued his route to the sideline with little room left to continue. That's atleast half his fault also.

JC on the other hand should have thrown the ball away.

Between the defense trying so hard to punish the Giants with outstanding hits that they missed tackles and the offense trying to hard to make a play we lost.

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[quote=RedskinRat;590177]He has zero ability to turn lead into gold using only his mind or even teleport small muffins across the table at meetings.

Documented FACT![/quote]

:laughing2 Well hell, he's just worthless then ain't he? LMAO.

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Man, is it Sunday yet??

:doh:

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[quote=Longtimefan;590180]I guess that just about sums it up in a nutshell. I'd still like to hear how Trample The Elderly describes it.[/quote]

Grabing a CB's facemask and shoving the back of his head into his shoulders is what I'd call a lack of mental toughness. Punching a guy in the helmet is too. He's also given up on plays. I'm not talking about last Sunday, that was suspect.

Running a route and catching a ball isn't magic. It's not like he's being asked to eat soup with chop sticks.

I'm done. Let's see how he fairs against the Rams.

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It's going to get worse next week.

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[quote=Longtimefan;590202]It's going to get worse next week.[/quote]

It had better not.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;590200]Punching a guy in the helmet is too. [/quote]

A poor choice of strike.

Hit the solar plexus, it's closer and less protected.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;590200]Grabing a CB's facemask and shoving the back of his head into his shoulders is what I'd call a lack of mental toughness. Punching a guy in the helmet is too. He's also given up on plays. I'm not talking about last Sunday, that was suspect.

Running a route and catching a ball isn't magic. It's not like he's being asked to eat soup with chop sticks.

I'm done. Let's see how he fairs against the Rams.[/quote]

You forgot he shinned his shoes last year.

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Done

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[quote=Coff;590014]I read Portis's comment differently; he was just saying that the fumble was the difference in the game, not that it was Campbell's fault.

Cooley seems to be suggesting that other players are not doing what they should be. Is this okay? Well, it depends. Sometimes a comment like that can fire up other players, sometimes it can piss them off. It really comes down to how respected the individual is who said it, and in this case we know this shouldn't be a problem as Cooley is a respected player on the team. Nevertheless, I'd rather he make the comment behind closed doors, which he very well may have.[/quote]


Campbell should have stepped up in the pocket. Mistake well one of his many in the game.

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[quote=NYCSkin;590157]Moss is the only receiver on this team that commands double teams...you bench him then Campbell would surely face more pressure as teams can just single cover the other WRs. The Giants double teamed him all day. Does he give up on routes--possibly. The bigger issue is that other than ARE and Cooley a bit...[B]Kelly[/B] and Thomas [B]could not get open on the Giants #3/#4/#5 corners (Ross and Dockery were hurt). [/B]So until these other receivers can beat single coverage let's not even get silly and talk about benching our only starting caliber receiver...[/quote]

That's simply not true. Kelly was open a number of times but Campbell either overthrew him, didn't see him, or was locked on to Cooley or ARE. Now, ARE got us quite a few yards, so i'm not criticizing that, but Kelly was doing his job and getting open. Maybe not on every play, but no one gets open on every play. Kelly did his job. ARE did his job. Cooley did his job. Our offensive line did their job. I can't definitively say that about any other offensive player.

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Sorry for being a downer. I just hate the effing Giants and that Cross-Eyed Mary QB. It's not fair. He can look strait ahead and see the whole damn field; It's like that she-he runner from Africa.

Eff the Giants and eff the Rams too. I hope we kill those miserable bastards!

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[quote=Longtimefan;590202]It's going to get worse next week.[/quote]

If we don't beat the Rams by atleast 14 points, then this team isn't going to win more than 5 games. If we lose to the Rams, Zorn's on notice. If we start out 0-4, Zorn should be fired.

That said, I think we should [U]expect[/U] the skins to be 3-1 in the first quarter of the season. Anything less is simply unacceptable.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;590229]That's simply not true. Kelly was open a number of times but Campbell either overthrew him, didn't see him, or was locked on to Cooley or ARE. Now, ARE got us quite a few yards, so i'm not criticizing that, but Kelly was doing his job and getting open. Maybe not on every play, but no one gets open on every play. Kelly did his job. ARE did his job. Cooley did his job. Our offensive line did their job. I can't definitively say that about any other offensive player.[/quote]I just got through the tape and can safely tell you that you've jumped to a lot of unfounded conclusions based around a single unfounded premise (i.e. Campbell had a terrible game, and subsequent ad homenim attacks).