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T.O.Killa 09-20-2009 10:36 PM

Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality?
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;592375]blache is way to conservative. He doesn't want to blame his players or himself for his mistakes, but really it's all him why the D is sucking, it's him who should be saying
"hey corners its 3rd and 5 don't play 10 yards off the line of scrimmage." If you don't think phillip daniels should be at DE then and Orakpo should then make that change, if you don't think Orakpo should be an OLB then make that change, if you don't think DeAngelo hall should be an outside corner and should play the slot then do so.[/quote]
The D has given up 22 points in two games. It is ranked 12th now in yardage and 7th in points allowed

CultBrennan59 09-20-2009 10:43 PM

Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality?
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;592378]The D has given up 22 points in two games. It is ranked 12th now in yardage and 7th in points allowed[/quote]

That's good, but stats don't mean everything.

T.O.Killa 09-20-2009 10:45 PM

Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality?
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;592386]That's good, but stats don't mean everything.[/quote]
Your right, those stats say nothing of the offense being ranked 29th in the league in scoring.

Longtimefan 09-20-2009 10:49 PM

Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality?
 
[quote=53Fan;591308]Our offense needs to get on track and start making plays. There is no doubt about that. Pittsburgh won the SB last year with the #1 defense. That didn't stop them from taking a DT, Ziggy Hood, with their first round pick. Whether the offense is good or bad, you still want the other parts of your team to play as well as they can don't you? Or is the defense suppose to just stand pat and say, "We'll get better after the offense gets better?" The fact that we need to get more sacks and turnovers, and get off the field quicker has [B]nothing to do with the offense[/B]. [B]That's what good defenses do[/B]. Blache can't do anything about the offense but he CAN make the defense better and I'm not satisfied with them being "pretty good" regardless of how the offense is playing. I'm not sure how wanting the defense to play better is taken as an endorsement of the offense. I love defense and would like to see them kick ass. Regardless of how the offense plays, at least I could get some pleasure from that.[/quote]


Indeed there is a correlation between what the two units do, as well as how they play on the field. That correlation was a topic of conversation which Blache was very much a part of when he was the defensive line coach, Greg Williams was DC, and Gibbs was the HC. Blaches' coaching philosophy is simular in many ways to that of Williams minus the creative blitzing. He does not beleive sack totals/or lack thereof should be a barometer for guaging the effectivness of a defense.

Between Gibbs, Williams, Blache and the secondary coaches the subject of how Gibbs wanted the defense to play based on his struggling offense was discussed. They arived at the conclusion that many of Williams' exotic blitz packages would be curtailed, mainly because Gibbs felt if the defense was repeatedly burned by the blitz (in an effort to make big plays/cause turnovers) they could dig a hole deeper than his offense could produce out of. Whatever ambivalence if any there may have been, did not prevent the defense from being effective. He was of the beleif that a vastly improved offense would reduce any sizeable onus on the defense, hence the hiring of Al Saunders.

Blache's defensive philosophy is sound and effective. He may not have all the parts he'd like to have to run some of the sets he would like, but sound nonetheless. There are times when he would like to be more aggressive, play more man and press coverages but his personnel dictate otherwise.

GTripp0012 09-20-2009 10:51 PM

Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality?
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;592390]Your right, those stats say nothing of the offense being ranked 29th in the league in scoring.[/quote]Through 2 games, the Redskins offense ranks 14th in yards per play.

Through 2 games, the Redskins defense ranks 14th in yards per play.

The operative question is not who is to blame, it's how can the offense score more points going forward, and how can defense prevent more points going forward.

CultBrennan59 09-20-2009 10:59 PM

Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality?
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;592390]Your right, those stats say nothing of the offense being ranked 29th in the league in scoring.[/quote]

ok...and the Colts right now are ranked number 1 in total defense, and they played jacksonville last week, so your saying they're the best defensive team in the league?

44Deezel 09-20-2009 11:03 PM

Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality?
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;592375]blache is way to conservative. He doesn't want to blame his players or himself for his mistakes, but really it's all him why the D is sucking, it's him who should be saying
"hey corners its 3rd and 5 don't play 10 yards off the line of scrimmage." If you don't think phillip daniels should be at DE then and Orakpo should then make that change, if you don't think Orakpo should be an OLB then make that change, if you don't think DeAngelo hall should be an outside corner and should play the slot then do so.[/quote]

I wouldn't call 2 Offensive TDs in 2 weeks exactly sucking. The Offense does nothing to help the D. Defenses that play with a lead have a big advantage. It would be nice if they were a ferocious Defense that got lots of sacks, turnovers and generally blew people up, but the D is the least of our worries.

T.O.Killa 09-20-2009 11:04 PM

Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality?
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;592414]ok...and the Colts right now are ranked number 1 in total defense, and they played jacksonville last week, so your saying they're the best defensive team in the league?[/quote]
Again, your right, because by the end of the year we will be ranked much higher. Look all kidding aside, the defense has played well enough for us to have won both games.

CultBrennan59 09-20-2009 11:06 PM

Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality?
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;592423]Again, your right, because by the end of the year we will be ranked much higher. Look all kidding aside, the defense has played well enough for us to have won both games.[/quote]

I guess I'll agree with that even though we still haven't gotten to the QB that much at all, we're still the same at getting to the QB as we were last year. But I will agree though that it's our offense that needs help a lot more than our defense.

T.O.Killa 09-20-2009 11:12 PM

Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality?
 
I will tell all of you this, the Giants are lighting up the Cowboys secondary much worse than they did to ours.

wilsowilso 09-20-2009 11:13 PM

Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality?
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;592437]I will tell all of you this, the Giants are lighting up the Cowboys secondary much worse than they did to ours.[/quote]

It's amazing how different each NFC East team is and how varied the games play out.

Lotus 09-20-2009 11:14 PM

Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality?
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;592437]I will tell all of you this, the Giants are lighting up the Cowboys secondary much worse than they did to ours.[/quote]

That's because the Cowboys secondary is worse than ours. And if Newman gets seriously hurt, look out.

44Deezel 09-20-2009 11:14 PM

Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality?
 
And no D is perfect. Everyone was talking about how we went up against such a "Great" Defense last week, but the Cowboys have 24 points with almost an entire quarter to go. The Titans gave up a bunch of points today. The Ravens were touched up for the second time in 2 weeks. Bears scored 17 on the Steelers and won.

I did take exception with Carlos Rogers giving Steven Jackson a 10 yard cushion when he was split out wide.

Monkeydad 09-21-2009 11:41 AM

Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality?
 
I am happy with the D. Getting TOs, only allowed 1 offensive TD in each of our games...if they keep this up all year, they could save us until our offense figures itself out, which I believe will happen.

Our defense is the least of our worries.

hail_2_da_skins 09-21-2009 12:14 PM

Re: Is Blache losing touch with reality?
 
I thought the defense was much better yesterday. The tackling was better. The rotation of the defensive line kept players fresh and even though the line only registered one sack, they applied constant pressure on Bulger. The defense made stops when they needed to and created turnovers when needed. This game should have been a blowout, the Redskins have to close the deal. They must convert their drives into touchdowns.


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