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DIE-NASTY 01-21-2010 10:40 PM

Re: Karlos Dansby anyone???? Interesting find...
 
[quote=Ruhskins;657390]Not that I'm strongly advocating for Dansby but here's how you fill these gaps

OL: Draft Okung with the #4, and pick up a solid free agent at Guard (Kuper if he's unrestricted from Denver.

RB: Draft one in the 4th round (a la Tashard Choice), find two serviceable RBs from either our roster or free agency, run a three-headed RB monster.

QB: Keep Campbell, draft a 2nd rounder QB.

LB: That's a tough one, we may need to wait until the following year (if there's football). Dansby for the right price would help (keep in mind that we're in the post-Vinny era).

DB: You got me on that one, but then again we're not going to fill all of our areas of need just one year of draft and free agency.[/quote]

I like your ideas.

As far as FA goes, I think we should be conservative meaning we shouldn't throw record contracts to every Tom, Dick and Harry. Agents foam at the mouth around this time of year because they know Danny will pony up top dollar without hesitation to sign a marquee talent. We've done this year after year and the formula hasn't worked.

I guess we're going to see what happens with the uncapped year, how Bruce handles the cap and the boss and see what Shannahan wants to do personnel-wise.

over the mountain 01-22-2010 11:07 AM

Re: Karlos Dansby anyone???? Interesting find...
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;657391]Keep in mind that Vinny wanted to draft Jerod Mayo with our 21st pick, but the pats picked him so we traded for 2 second rounders getting fred davis, and devin thomas[/quote]

the first time i heard vinny say he was targeting mayo was a year after the draft after mayo had won defensive rookie of the year. for whatver thats worth . . .

in the same interview i heard he said he didnt have any olineman rated as a 1st rounder and thats why he traded back from the 21st spot.

and he had thomas rated as a 1st round talent ala jacobs.

MTK 01-22-2010 11:13 AM

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Mayo was definitely on the radar, though even if the Pats didn't take him at 11 it seemed doubtful he would have stuck around until 21.

T.O.Killa 01-22-2010 11:23 AM

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As Redskins fans, we get so excited over the top free agents in the offseason. We all start ranting and raving, we should go after the big name, and normaly we get him. Then when he does not perform as billed, we start calling for Snyders head. With that said, I was thinking, if we signed Dansby to a long term deal and payed him some stupid amount of money to play up front and a reasonable amount after that, would that be salary cap safe? Such as pay him 40 million up front and four or five million a year after that. That would seem to me to work for future salry caps. Of course then we have another over payed player to rich to care about football.

MTK 01-22-2010 11:28 AM

Re: Karlos Dansby anyone???? Interesting find...
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;657498]As Redskins fans, we get so excited over the top free agents in the offseason. We all start ranting and raving, we should go after the big name, and normaly we get him. Then when he does not perform as billed, we start calling for Snyders head. With that said, I was thinking, if we signed Dansby to a long term deal and payed him some stupid amount of money to play up front and a reasonable amount after that, would that be salary cap safe? Such as pay him 40 million up front and four or five million a year after that. That would seem to me to work for future salry caps. Of course then we have another over payed player to rich to care about football.[/quote]

I don't think teams will be allowed to front load deals like that

over the mountain 01-22-2010 11:32 AM

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the 30% rule. in the uncapped 2010 year, you can only sign a guy for 30% more than he was making last year.

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/10847836]Collective Bargaining Agreement - Q & A - NFL - CBSSports.com Football[/url]

CultBrennan59 02-14-2010 01:06 PM

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Well, if we here on this thread my not really want Dasby, he apparently wants to be a redskin....

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/14/dansby-has-a-four-team-wish-list/]Dansby has a four-team wish list | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

skinsfan_nn 02-14-2010 01:34 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;663122][B]We if we here on this thread my not really want Dasby[/B], he apparently wants to be a redskin....

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/14/dansby-has-a-four-team-wish-list/"]Dansby has a four-team wish list | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL][/quote]

We if we ...huh. Try again.

Not so sure about Dansby, we have much greater needs. I'm sure he would like to come to play for the Redskins, he's thinking about a pay check.

T.O.Killa 02-14-2010 02:32 PM

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Karlos would be exactly what we need to move to a 3-4 defense. He would be our strong side OLB and Orakpo and Fletcher would be ILB, and McIntosh would be weakside OLB. We could then trade for Carter for a third or forth round draft choice. We could then have a some comibation of Golston, Daniels, Montgomery, Alexander, and Jarmon at the DE and Haynesworth at NT. On passing downs you put Orakpo on the line and we have a monster front seven in my mind. This would make Haynesworth happy, i think, because he could rush the passer and Orakpo could rush the passer from all over. By the way, we can probably get rid of on or both of Daniels and Griffin.

Ruhskins 02-14-2010 03:28 PM

Re: Karlos Dansby anyone???? Interesting find...
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;663129]Karlos would be exactly what we need to move to a 3-4 defense. He would be our strong side OLB and Orakpo and Fletcher would be ILB, and McIntosh would be weakside OLB. We could then trade for Carter for a third or forth round draft choice. We could then have a some comibation of Golston, Daniels, Montgomery, Alexander, and Jarmon at the DE and Haynesworth at NT. On passing downs you put Orakpo on the line and we have a monster front seven in my mind. This would make Haynesworth happy, i think, because he could rush the passer and Orakpo could rush the passer from all over. By the way, we can probably get rid of on or both of Daniels and Griffin.[/quote]

I thought Orakpo would be best suited as a 3-4 OLB where he can rush the QB a la DeMarcus Ware/Terrell Suggs. And didn't Dansby played ILB for the Cardinals 3-4 defense?

skinsfaninok 02-14-2010 03:37 PM

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[url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/14/dansby-has-a-four-team-wish-list/[/url]

Looks like Dansby would like to join the Skins.. I wonder if we will look at him? I think we should, our LB's are AVG at best besides Fletcher.

Dirtbag59 02-14-2010 04:09 PM

Re: Karlos Dansby anyone???? Interesting find...
 
[quote=over the mountain;657490]the first time i heard vinny say he was targeting mayo was a year after the draft after mayo had won defensive rookie of the year. for whatver thats worth . . .

in the same interview i heard he said he didnt have any olineman rated as a 1st rounder and thats why he traded back from the 21st spot.

and he had thomas rated as a 1st round talent ala jacobs.[/quote]

I think it was through Redskin Insider but I knew on draft day that the Redskins were targeting Mayo and was subsequently bummed when the Patriots picked him. Good thing we got three pass catchers though.

tryfuhl 02-14-2010 04:15 PM

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I could see the Giants looking hard at Dansby now with Pierce gone.

T.O.Killa 02-14-2010 05:41 PM

Re: Karlos Dansby anyone???? Interesting find...
 
[quote=Ruhskins;663132]I thought Orakpo would be best suited as a 3-4 OLB where he can rush the QB a la DeMarcus Ware/Terrell Suggs. And didn't Dansby played ILB for the Cardinals 3-4 defense?[/quote]
I gues your right, I thought that he was an OLB. I feel like the Redskins need a good strongside LB to solidify the front seven.

CultBrennan59 02-14-2010 06:02 PM

Re: Karlos Dansby anyone???? Interesting find...
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;663156]I gues your right, I thought that he was an OLB. I feel like the Redskins need a good strongside LB to solidify the front seven.[/quote]

Dansby would come in here and be a perfect fit for either defense, SLB in a 4-3. Or ILB for a 3-4. He's not that old too. If we stuck to a 4-3 than our LB's would be Dansby Fletcher McIntosh, with Orakpo at DE. If we got a 3-4 than our LB's would be Orakpo, Fletcher, Dansby, ????(draft pick, chris wilson, FA, or Rocky??)


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