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Lotus 02-03-2010 03:43 PM

Re: Portis expected to be back
 
^ I will leap for joy if we get Jahvid Best. Quick and agile, he could thrive in Shanny's one-cut system. And with his speed, he could give us a real home run threat.

SolidSnake84 02-03-2010 03:45 PM

Re: Portis expected to be back
 
[quote=Beneil (diehard since 87);660133]
Oh, and is it normal for an administrator on a Redskins site to use a different team icon? Just curious...[/quote]

We are able to use anybody's team icon that we want here. If you scroll through all the available ones, there are many different teams available...

over the mountain 02-03-2010 04:20 PM

Re: Portis expected to be back
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;660135] As far as I know Portis was already paid all his signing bonus money and has nothing else guaranteed.

If I'm missing something, I'm sure one of our cap folks will let us know.[/quote]

after your post a did a good bit of reading.

CP is guaranteed roughly 9.8 mil in 2010. guaranteed approx. 2.3ish mil in 2011 and 2012.

if we cut CP now, he will be owed approx. 15 mil (9.8ish + 2.3ish + 2.3ish + a 2010 roster bous of approx 500k). but he is off the books for 2011 and 2012.

also the skins cleverly did an "off set" clause in CPs renegotiated contract which means that if CP is cut, the money owed to him from the skins is reduced ( a percent, not dollar for dollar) if he signs with another team.

the skins were also smart to take that 9.8 mil signing bonus on in 2010, which they correctly predicted was going to be an uncapped year.

if CP is cut in 2011 or 2012; we go back to the normal equation of (salary - guar = cap space saved). so 8 mil - 2.3 mil = cap savings of 5.7mil.

in conclusion, cutting CP now will save us approx 2.3 mil per year in cap space for 2011 and 2012 vs just keeping the man for 1 more year and dan snyder gets something in return for his money in 2010.

with that off set clause, it might just be worth it to keep him next year, run him hard and see if he can turn things around.

if he sucks or doesnt change his approach, cut him after 2010 and all we lost out on is 2.3 mil extra in cap savings which would be off set by any other team signing him.

Mechanix544 02-03-2010 07:25 PM

Re: Portis expected to be back
 
Clinton Portis does have one thing going for him.

He is tough, and like him or not, when he is on the field, he plays his heart out and never backs down from a LB blitzing from the corner. I love that about him. Now, the past 2 1/2 years, EVERYONE on the roster has been way too relaxed. Not enough fire in them, and they are not practicing hard, packing on the lbs., yada yada yada, and I do agree with those comments. But, that being said, overall, CP is a damn good redskin, and I think he deserves a shot at getting himself back into elite form with his former coach and former system that treated him so well back at Mile High. He deserves this season. Lets all get behind him, but for damn sure, you dont want to get in front of him, he will run right into your back, lol.!!!!!!

tryfuhl 02-03-2010 07:44 PM

Re: Portis expected to be back
 
[quote=53Fan;660142]If this is true, and I suspect it is, Portis has his work cut out for him. WalterFootball has Javid Best dropping to us in the second round. That would be worth considering if he does.[/quote]
that would be awesome

GTripp0012 02-03-2010 08:16 PM

Re: Portis expected to be back
 
Big Jahvid Best fan, but the severe concussion that effectively ended his college career shouldn't be undervalued. Now, when you are talking about a second round RB, and particularly a Shanahan back, we're not talking about a guy who needs to have a long career to justify his draft status. Two or three strong years at the beginning of his career would be fine.

But Best is a guy who could be done after just one more severe concussion. And there's not a whole lot we can do to control when that happens except not drafting him. I think that's just the reality of a serious situation.

tryfuhl 02-03-2010 08:37 PM

Re: Portis expected to be back
 
[quote=GTripp0012;660203]Big Jahvid Best fan, but the severe concussion that effectively ended his college career shouldn't be undervalued. Now, when you are talking about a second round RB, and particularly a Shanahan back, we're not talking about a guy who needs to have a long career to justify his draft status. Two or three strong years at the beginning of his career would be fine.

But Best is a guy who could be done after just one more severe concussion. And there's not a whole lot we can do to control when that happens except not drafting him. I think that's just the reality of a serious situation.[/quote]
Yeah, I was watching that and seeing him posturing after it I thought that he had suffered major brain and/or nerve damage. It's definitely a concern.


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