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takethecake 02-19-2010 01:48 PM

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I see your concerns, but I just think that not using the #4 pick on an OT won't condemn us to having a "patched up OL." I think there are some legitimate options in FA (not many, but there are some), and that there is better later round OT talent in this particular draft than there usually is. I'm not banking on this being the ultimate solution, but between this year's draft and next year's draft, I think this gives us the most bang for our buck (well for our draft picks), and will certainly give us a better line next year than we had.

Ruhskins 02-19-2010 01:53 PM

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[quote=takethecake;664919]I see your concerns, but I just think that not using the #4 pick on an OT won't condemn us to having a "patched up OL." I think there are some legitimate options in FA (not many, but there are some), and that there is better later round OT talent in this particular draft than there usually is. I'm not banking on this being the ultimate solution, but between this year's draft and next year's draft, I think this gives us the most bang for our buck (well for our draft picks), and will certainly give us a better line next year than we had.[/quote]

Agreed. I know that picking up a LT at #4 doesn't automatically solve our problems with the line. I just see an LT at #4 as more of a sure thing than a QB like Bradford.

skinzfan88 02-19-2010 03:01 PM

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Would anyone be interested in trading C. Rodgers for SD's A. Cromartie? Cromartie might have had an off year, but could be a pro bowl caliber CB with the coaching staff we have in place.. Just an idea..

tryfuhl 02-19-2010 03:15 PM

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[quote=skinzfan88;664936]Would anyone be interested in trading C. Rodgers for SD's A. Cromartie? Cromartie might have had an off year, but could be a pro bowl caliber CB with the coaching staff we have in place.. Just an idea..[/quote]that's being discussed in another thread, but no, it's not going to happen

skinzfan88 02-19-2010 03:54 PM

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Sorry.. I realized that after I wrote it.. As u can see I'm a rookie..

SBXVII 02-19-2010 06:30 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;664847]Since this thread is about Free Agency, I have some questions and some comments about what you wrote from the perspective of Free Agency.

[B]OL[/B] - I couldn't agree with you more about the OL. We need to leave no stone unturned to improve the OL. In the short term, at least, that's going to require signing some more FA's.

[B]QB [/B]- I also agree with you about JC. From my observations, there just isn't an OL worthy of the #4 pick, whereas I think that either Clausen or Bradford, or even both, could possibly be that elusive Franchise QB. So, I'd like to see the Skins take one of them with the #4 pick. But that leaves the matter of what to do with JC. If the Skins tender him at a 1st and a 3rd level, will they trade him or pay him to start one more season? I'd hate to miss out on the opportunity to get something for him.

[B]RB[/B] - I think we can go with Portis or Betts on 1st and 2nd downs. I see Rock as a "glue" guy and a valuable ST player. But we stiil need a 3rd down back and I think we should take a long look at Leon Washington, who is also a good return guy.

[B]WR[/B] - Like you, I'm not sold on the young WR's. But, T.O.? If you're going to bring in a head case, then trade for Brandon Marshall and extend his contract. He's a true #1 WR now and he's a good fit. As for the FA's, I have no problem with bringing one (or more) in to compete. I feel very confident about the WR decisions going forward because Shanny always had productive WR's and because I have all the respect in the world for Keenan McCardell as our WR's Coach.

[B]CB[/B] - I think Carlos will be better in a different scheme where he doesn't play so far off the ball. I'm not very worried about this position.

[B]FS[/B] - I agree with you.

[B]SS[/B] - I'd try to trade Landry.

BTW, it seems to you're thinking 4-3/3-4 hybrid on defense. I'm not thinking that way going forward - I'm thinking strictly 3-4 in terms of any player acqusitions. So, I feel that we need to look at FA's at ILB, OLB, NT, and DE.

I don't think Big Al is going to like the lack of a spotlight on him as a NT. He'll probably need to be a DE. So we'll need a NT. We should look to trade Carter who should have good value as a 4-3 DE but is not likely to fit well in a 3-4 defense as an OLB (based on his experience at the position in SF).[/quote]

In regards to trading JC, I don't think we would get the return we all would like. Tenduring him is ok cause I honestly don't think we will get what we will want for him but if we do excellent. If not then in my opinion we have our Vet. Cut Collins and look at whether Colt brings anything to the table. But drafting a Frachise QB in the top 5 is a must for our team future.

To me Rock is expendable. He's taking a whole position and is not an effective RB. I'd use Hall or Thomas here or if we can train Alridge and cut Rock. Bring in youth by drafting someone. Plus I'd only keep one of the older players either Portis or Betts which ever is healthier.

I'm neither here nor there on T.O. but Shanahan did try to aquire him while in Denver which means he likes T.O. which is why I bring up T.O. I get the feeling Shanahan tries again to make a play for him since there is no strings attached other then to sign him. But I think Walter and Bryant are in the same boat so maybe signing one of them would be better.

CRedskinsRule 02-19-2010 06:33 PM

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[quote=skinzfan88;664955]Sorry.. I realized that after I wrote it.. As u can see I'm a rookie..[/quote]

It's all good, Welcome to the Warpath!!!!

Skins4L 02-19-2010 10:17 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;664286]Lets just trade Carlos Rogers and JC for second round picks and AH and Cooley for a pair of first round picks. Then we won't have to worry about free agents. lol[/quote]

Haynesworth and Cooley?

you lost your mind brotha?

Yea yea... lets just trade one the better DTs in the league, and one of the best TEs in the league for unproven draft picks.

Skins4L 02-19-2010 10:27 PM

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as far as Free Safety... LaRon Landry is fine.

We need a SS... if anything.

53Fan 02-19-2010 10:45 PM

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[quote=Skins4L;665018]as far as Free Safety... LaRon Landry is fine.

We need a SS... if anything.[/quote]

Patiently waiting for Goats reply..........:)

Dirtbag59 02-19-2010 10:48 PM

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[quote=Skins4L;665017]Haynesworth and Cooley?

you lost your mind brotha?

Yea yea... lets just trade one the better DTs in the league, and one of the best TEs in the league for unproven draft picks.[/quote]

You're right. I didn't ask for enough picks. 5 first rounders for Haynesworth and Cooley. That way we won't even need to so much as look at free agency.

The Goat 02-19-2010 11:42 PM

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[quote=53Fan;665024]Patiently waiting for Goats reply..........:)[/quote]

LOL no reply on the horizon...I'm DONE w/ that particular player.

I'm surprised this thread hasn't gone more in the direction of defense. I mean in all likelihood we have an offense oriented draft because of our desperate needs there and the fact we have an offense minded coach. But if Haslett really forces this change into a 3-4 you're facing pretty serious personnel changes required on defense as well, and FA would be the logical route since we're so limited on draft picks.

Looking at the DL it's very hard to see anyone but Albert having immediate success in a 3-4. Jarmon is actually talking about losing weight and transitioning to LB. Monty just hasn't shown anything to prove he can be a dominant NT, and like said elsewhere Albert could be sort of wasted at that position. Plus if Albert doesn't play RDE in the 3-4 who can you see on the roster playing that position? Who do you see at LDE? Daniels certainly has the strength/bulk but do you want to rely on an aging, injury prone player. Can Zoe hold LDE down in the 3-4?

Honestly, going primarily to a 3-4 probably requires two new additions to the starting cast on the DL...either NT and an end or two new ends. That's why Dansby seems unlikely.

CRedskinsRule 02-20-2010 12:03 AM

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I am just curious, this being an uncapped year, and all the stuff with that; not including the draft how many total quality Free Agents does everyone think we will bring in, regardless of position. More than most of the league, on par with most of the league, or fewer than the rest of the league.

The Goat 02-20-2010 12:23 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;665034]I am just curious, this being an uncapped year, and all the stuff with that; not including the draft how many total quality Free Agents does everyone think we will bring in, regardless of position. More than most of the league, on par with most of the league, or fewer than the rest of the league.[/quote]

A great question, that I can't answer w/ any confidence. What's interesting to consider is how many FAs we'll [I]need[/I] depending on our defensive scheme and draft decisions. Assuming we 1) draft two bookend tackles in the draft and 2) switch primarily to a 3-4 defense...then I count at least 4 quality FAs we'll need to sign in order to round things out.

Center
2 Defensive Linemen (combination of NT, End or two ends)
Free Safety

Historically speaking that would appear to be a very active and successful off-season in FA. Devil's advocate...if we stuck to a 4-3 defense I don't think the addition of 2 d-lineman is necessary. Two quality FA signings, Center and FS, is much more reasonable.

CultBrennan59 02-20-2010 12:37 AM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/19/2010-free-agent-quarterback-class-has-a-surprise-entry/]2010 free agent quarterback class has a surprise entry | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

chances he comes out of retirement and to DC are slim but just thought I'd throw this out there.


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