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ethat001 03-24-2010 05:54 PM

Re: Rumor: Eagles and Rams Finalizing Trade Involving McNabb
 
Wish we knew about this before. Perhaps we could have planned to more aggressively pursue the FA left tackles, to prepare for drafting Bradford.

This could be interesting. We may have Campbell, Grossman, and Bradford. Who knows how that will shake out by the end of the season.

NM Redskin 03-24-2010 05:57 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;678125]Yeah the Browns are definitely the team to watch out for[/quote]

That would be a bit of nightmare situation if Okung and Bragford are gone by four. Could we actually take the DT that falls?

Ruhskins 03-24-2010 05:57 PM

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[quote=McD5;678126]You can have the best left tackle in the game, and still not do anything. Like us for the last decade.

If you have the best QB in the game, you are going places.

Both are important, but a QB is absolutely critical. Much more important than a left tackle.

And, don't believe that if we draft Bradford, we are giving up on a LT. We can get both.

We still have plenty of other options to get one. Including packaging up players like one of our TEs, Landry, or even JC together to get one.[/quote]

Dude, you're making an argument that's been beaten to death here, so don't be surprise if someone bites your head off for it.

That being said, I think at this point the smart thing would be to draft down, if the Browns don't jump us and trades down with Tampa Bay. I believe that our FO now could be in a position to get multiple picks out of our #4.

SmootSmack 03-24-2010 05:58 PM

Re: Rumor: Eagles and Rams Finalizing Trade Involving McNabb
 
[quote=12thMan;678094]If true this means that the Rams aren't 1000% sold on Bradford's shoulder and they are definitely trying to make a playoff run sooner rather than later.

And the possibility of Bradford falling to us just increased, but it still doesn't mean we'll draft him.[/quote]

I think the Rams not having the owner firmly in place has as much to do with not wanting to invest in a QB at 1st overall as concerns about his shoulder

Ruhskins 03-24-2010 05:59 PM

Re: Rumor: Eagles and Rams Finalizing Trade Involving McNabb
 
[quote=SmootSmack;678131]I think the Rams not having the owner firmly in place has as much to do with not wanting to invest in a QB at 1st overall as concerns about his shoulder[/quote]

Financially, is there much of a difference between drafting a QB over a DT? Just wondering.

McD5 03-24-2010 05:59 PM

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;678124]they had great defenses...and you cant pass with the QB on his rearend.. you want to use the number 4 for David Carr part II ?[/quote]

Drafting Bradford in no way means that we can't still address our terrible O-line.

It doesn't have to be one or the other. It can be both.

If we don't get our franchise QB now, when are we going to get one? Next season, when we are likely drafting lower than now?

Do you want to use one first on a QB this season, or risk having to spend two first round draft picks to get one next year?

DBUCHANON101 03-24-2010 06:01 PM

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Yeah lets take a QB with a bad shoulder that we cant protect....hhhmmm am i the only one who smells a potential problem with this?

NM Redskin 03-24-2010 06:01 PM

Re: Rumor: Eagles and Rams Finalizing Trade Involving McNabb
 
[quote=SmootSmack;678131]I think the Rams not having the owner firmly in place has as much to do with not wanting to invest in a QB at 1st overall as concerns about his shoulder[/quote]

Maybe Spago figures that he better start to win now and prove to new ownership he's the guy for the Rams future. Would have a better chance with a vet QB.

Ruhskins 03-24-2010 06:04 PM

Re: Rumor: Eagles and Rams Finalizing Trade Involving McNabb
 
[quote=McD5;678133]Drafting Bradford in no way means that we can't still address our terrible O-line.

It doesn't have to be one or the other. It can be both.

If we don't get our franchise QB now, when are we going to get one? Next season, when we are likely drafting lower than now?

Do you want to use one first on a QB this season, or risk having to spend two first round draft picks to get one next year?[/quote]

I'm not willing to bet the farm on a single player, when there's the possibility of trading down to get multiple picks.

SmootSmack 03-24-2010 06:08 PM

Re: Rumor: Eagles and Rams Finalizing Trade Involving McNabb
 
[quote=Ruhskins;678132]Financially, is there much of a difference between drafting a QB over a DT? Just wondering.[/quote]

I would say so

All indications by the way, just addressing the general public, are that Bradford's shoulder is fine. His shoulder isn't bad (not as bad as Drew Brees') it's more so that he came back too soon from his injury. People act like he had his arm amputated or something

McD5 03-24-2010 06:10 PM

Re: Rumor: Eagles and Rams Finalizing Trade Involving McNabb
 
[quote=Ruhskins;678137]I'm not willing to bet the farm on a single player, when there's the possibility of trading down to get multiple picks.[/quote]

Multiple picks would be great. I personally believe we are still going to unload a few players to get some more picks in this draft. The first round is absolutely loaded this year.

But that still doesn't fix the QB situation. If we want to see our team in the playoffs almost every season, we need a franchise QB.

And interesting stat: 2nd round QBs almost always bust. In the last decade, only one has been great--Drew Brees.

Ten years of busts besides that one exception.

The next best 2nd rounders of the last decade? Chad Henne, Tavaris Jackson and Kevin Kolb. That isn't pretty.

81forHOF 03-24-2010 06:17 PM

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I like this move for all the eagle fan's who bitched and complained about McNabb all these years. I live in PA and there are a bunch of em. I tell them that he is one of the best QB's their franchise has ever seen and coming from a fan of a team who has been looking for a QB for over a decade they should just be happy.

Here's hoping that Kolb Sucks eggs!!!

ethat001 03-24-2010 06:18 PM

Re: Rumor: Eagles and Rams Finalizing Trade Involving McNabb
 
[quote=McD5;678139]
And interesting stat: 2nd round QBs almost always bust. In the last decade, only one has been great--Drew Brees.

Ten years of busts besides that one exception.

The next best 2nd rounders of the last decade? Chad Henne, Tavaris Jackson and Kevin Kolb. That isn't pretty.[/quote]

Yeah, here's a good article about exactly that - 2nd/3rd round QB's. matt Shaub is another good one (rd 3).
[url=http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/23qb/23qbs.php]Draft Countdown - 2nd & 3rd Round Quarterbacks[/url]

McD5 03-24-2010 06:24 PM

Re: Rumor: Eagles and Rams Finalizing Trade Involving McNabb
 
[quote=ethat001;678142]Yeah, here's a good article about exactly that ][/quote]

Great article, thanks for sharing it.

Take a look at those second round QB busts. You either have to go in the first, or pray to God for a Tom Brady miracle in the sixth.

We are in the first, with the fourth pick. This is our shot.

diehardskin2982 03-24-2010 06:27 PM

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It would be interesting if Bradford becomes a skin after all. I would imagine after he is picked up campbell is immediately shipped to Buffalo.


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