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celts32 09-22-2011 02:07 PM

Re: 2011 Season & 2012 Draft
 
[quote=Lotus;838771]Shanahan is terrible at "Suck for Luck." We need to start losing! /sarc[/quote]

yep...our only shot at Luck is for Carolina to suck. The way Newton is playing that is probably the only scenario where the #1 pick would be open for buisness. That's how I am looking at it. The skins were never going to finish last in the league...the key is someone who doesn't need Luck finishing last.

redsk1 09-22-2011 02:16 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;838783]If I were to draft for us right now, I'd get that Hosley kid from VT. The kid looks just like Revis at Pitt.

In the second round I'd get Kellen Moore. Look at Kurt Warner, and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Both were smart with weak arms. Warner was really accurate and smart, knowing where to throw and into the blitz. Kellen is the same way. The only difference between Kellen and Kurt is height, and passing arm (left for kellen, right for kurt). Kellen IMO is just another great player that's 'too small' or 'does have the big arm' that will get to the pros and dominate.

third round I'd get an ILB like Donta Hightower or a backup DE incase Jarvis takes a while to recover.[/quote]

Hosley might be the best CB in VT History and they've had some really good ones. He's a player.

Skins will be looking QB though. Mark it down.

Lotus 09-22-2011 02:20 PM

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[quote=skinster;838801]I was pretty young when Kurt was a ram, but from what I remember, and what I was told, he used to have a cannon. I know he changed his game when he was a cardinal, but that came after years of experience.

Not a believer in fitzpatrick yet.[/quote]

Yeah, Warner of the late '90's had fine arm strength.

Slingin Sammy 33 09-22-2011 02:39 PM

Re: 2011 Season & 2012 Draft
 
[quote=celts32;838820]yep...our only shot at Luck is for Carolina to suck. The way Newton is playing that is probably the only scenario where the #1 pick would be open for buisness. That's how I am looking at it. The skins were never going to finish last in the league...the key is someone who doesn't need Luck finishing last.[/quote]Carolina won't be the worst in the league. The Luck sweepstakes will be decided in the Luck Bowl, Week 5, KC vs. Indy @ Indy. Other than this game, I only see 1 other game for either team to even have a 50/50 chance to win.

Lotus 09-22-2011 02:55 PM

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Rumor is that KC has already sewn a Luck jersey and sent him a playbook. :cheeky-sm

Big C 09-23-2011 09:21 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;838783]If I were to draft for us right now, I'd get that Hosley kid from VT. The kid looks just like Revis at Pitt.

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hosely is more like a deangelo hall than a revis imo. hosely makes a lot of big plays but i dont think he will be a shut down guy in the nfl. more of a risk taker/playmaker

CultBrennan59 09-24-2011 02:44 AM

Re: 2011 Season & 2012 Draft
 
This draft this upcoming year has a lot of talent in our area of needs.

QB (luck, Kellen Moore, barkley*, Cousins, Foles, Landry Jones)
WR ( Alshon Jefferey, Blackmon, Floyd, TY Hilton)
T (Kalil, the Iowa state guy, Nate Potter of Boise st)
G (theres some good depth guys) Glenn UGA, DeCastro standford
C (^)Brewster OSU, Jones UGA

DL (Jared Crick, Billy Winn Boise st.)
LB (Burfict, Kuechly*, Te'o*, Hightower, Upshaw)
CB (Alfronzo Dennard nebraska, Hosley VT, Claiborne LSU, Cliff Harris * oregon, Janoris Jenkins, Dre Kirkpatrick)
S (Mark Barron, Kenny Tate, Ray Ray Armstrong)


[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4yWAOqviFY&feature=related]Sport Science: Jayron Hosley - YouTube[/url]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_97kBZqj270&NR=1]Sport Science: Justin Blackmon - YouTube[/url]

budw38 09-25-2011 07:36 AM

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[quote=FRPLG;838802]Plus there is some intriguing depth at the position. Guys like Tannehill and Cousins are making cases.[/quote]
Tannehill had a nice run for a td ....65 yards ![url=http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=312670245]Oklahoma State Cowboys vs. Texas A&M Aggies - Box Score - September 24, 2011 - ESPN[/url]

HughHog 09-26-2011 07:11 PM

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After this weekend of teams just looking terrible, we're somehow pretty secure in being in the top half of the 32. At this point it seems the best that we are going to be able to pick is Te'o (not that that is a bad thing in anyway). [url=http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2012_1.php]WalterFootball.com: 2012 NFL Mock Draft: First Round Continued[/url] No Suck for Luck for us.

dallas is going down tonight!

NC_Skins 12-16-2011 08:22 AM

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[url=http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/story/_/id/7358275/usc-trojans-matt-kalil-enter-2012-nfl-draft]USC Trojans' Matt Kalil to enter 2012 NFL draft - ESPN Los Angeles[/url]


Guess that means Barkley is coming out as well because he's been parroting they were a package deal. (which I do not believe)

Chico23231 12-16-2011 08:40 AM

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[quote=Big C;839113]hosely is more like a deangelo hall than a revis imo. hosely makes a lot of big plays but i dont think he will be a shut down guy in the nfl. more of a risk taker/playmaker[/quote]

Agree Hosely is more playmaker than shutdown.

I think CB is the toughest positions to project at the next level, followed by QB and WR.

SkinzWin 12-16-2011 10:15 AM

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[quote=Big C;838312]robert griffin III from baylor would be a good fit imo if he leaves early.[/quote]

"Griffin, who enrolled at Baylor in January of 2008 and redshirted in 2009 after a knee injury, will earn his master’s degree this spring in corporate communications. He will petition the NCAA to allow him to go to law school while he plays his senior season and trains to get onto the 2012 Olympics team to compete in the 400-meter hurdles.

The NFL—where he’ll likely be a top 10 pick—can wait.

“You gotta have a plan, but realize that plans don’t always work out. Plan B is the NFL,” Griffin says. “Whenever you ask me what are my plans, the first thing that comes out of my mouth is not to be an NFL player. I want to go to law school, I want to be a lawyer, maybe a sports agent. That’s the plan. All of that other stuff doesn’t matter until I’m done here at Baylor.”

And for every underdog put in every situation that was seemingly too immense."

He's not coming out to play. He want's to be a lawyer. NFL money is Plan B for this kid. Got to give him credit. That takes a man right there to say that.



Read more: [url=http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-12-14/robert-griffin-iii-named-sporting-news-player-of-the-year#ixzz1gi6AiioH]Robert Griffin III named Sporting News' player of the year - NCAA Football - Sporting News[/url]

Landry44 12-17-2011 12:10 AM

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[quote=SkinzWin;868269]"Griffin, who enrolled at Baylor in January of 2008 and redshirted in 2009 after a knee injury, will earn his master’s degree this spring in corporate communications. He will petition the NCAA to allow him to go to law school while he plays his senior season and trains to get onto the 2012 Olympics team to compete in the 400-meter hurdles.

The NFL—where he’ll likely be a top 10 pick—can wait.

“You gotta have a plan, but realize that plans don’t always work out. Plan B is the NFL,” Griffin says. “Whenever you ask me what are my plans, the first thing that comes out of my mouth is not to be an NFL player. I want to go to law school, I want to be a lawyer, maybe a sports agent. That’s the plan. All of that other stuff doesn’t matter until I’m done here at Baylor.”

And for every underdog put in every situation that was seemingly too immense."

He's not coming out to play. He want's to be a lawyer. NFL money is Plan B for this kid. Got to give him credit. That takes a man right there to say that.



Read more: [url=http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-12-14/robert-griffin-iii-named-sporting-news-player-of-the-year#ixzz1gi6AiioH]Robert Griffin III named Sporting News' player of the year - NCAA Football - Sporting News[/url][/quote] The question is when did he make that statement? Since he won the Heisman he hasn't said weather he's going to stay or enter the draft. More than likely he made that statement months ago. I think it's 90% chance he's going to come out.

That Guy 12-17-2011 12:26 AM

Re: 2011 Season & 2012 Draft
 
why not take 20 mill play 3 years and then do whatever you want?

Landry44 12-17-2011 12:35 AM

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[quote=That Guy;868383]why not take 20 mill play 3 years and then do whatever you want?[/quote]

RG3 parents are already interviewing agents for him. I think he's more than likely going to come out.


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