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NC_Skins 08-03-2011 10:19 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
[quote=Ruhskins;819179] Yet, I think that if he was better at holding on to picks, he could probably have gotten the money that he wanted from the Redskins or any other team.[/quote]

People are right to get on him about the dropped INTs. It's his job to make those interceptions and there are absolutely no excuses to why he's dropped the ones he's had. Absolute game changers (or game enders in cases) had he just held onto the ball. His interviews how he describes himself being up there with the elite CBs, except for the interceptions. Well duh Carlos, that's because the elite guys make those plays. Hell, even the scrub guys make those plays.

The pay he just got reflects his value on the open market. I imagine he's humbled as hell right now and should be working on hand/eye coordination right now instead of worrying about what's going on in the local clubs and what your teammate is being paid.

freddyg12 08-03-2011 10:52 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
For those that are saying Rogers was a bust, I seriously disagree. He started since his rookie year. He was not a top cb but was in the next tier IMO. He had some bad times w/double moves & we all know about the drops.

Drafts are all relative. Don't compare him to Champ Bailey, who is one of the all time greats. Instead, compare him to the others in his class. Two CBs were picked ahead of him; Pacman Jones & Antrell Rolle. He was a better cb than both. Rolle has become a decent safety but wasn't much of a cb for a top 10 pick.

Monkeydad 08-03-2011 11:01 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
Carlos takes a slap back into reality. :D

He'll be a step down from Clements to the Niners.

Week 9 at Fed-Ex, Carlos is getting torched by Hankerson.

SmootSmack 08-03-2011 11:09 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
Rogers is absolutely not a bust. But he's certainly not one of the game's elites either. Never has been, probably never will be.

He's already start semi-bashing the team, talking about how they don't keep their own...yet he has no issue going to a team that just let Aubrayo Franklin and Nate Clements walk.

I wish him well, but his time here was long past its expiration date

Paintrain 08-03-2011 11:11 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;819165]IMO he was A bust for where he was picked[/quote]

Exactly, especially when Demarcus Ware was picked a few choices afterwards and Aaron Rodgers was still on the board.. Ah Joe 2.0, how you set the franchise back..

Anyways, good riddance to Rogers, one of my least favorite Redskins of recent time.. His ego far out paced his talent and production. I never got why he had so many supporters. He was beaten, benched, quit (IMO in 2009) and never took any responsibility. Kick rocks Carlos, enjoy the Bay.

MTK 08-03-2011 11:13 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
[quote=SmootSmack;819256]Rogers is absolutely not a bust. But he's certainly not one of the game's elites either. Never has been, probably never will be.

He's already start semi-bashing the team, talking about how they don't keep their own...yet he has no issue going to a team that just let Aubrayo Franklin and Nate Clements walk.

I wish him well, but his time here was long past its expiration date[/quote]

I guess he missed the fact we kept Moss, Blades, Grossman, Buchanon, and Westbrook.

GTripp0012 08-03-2011 11:15 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
[quote=Paintrain;819257]Exactly, especially when Demarcus Ware was picked a few choices afterwards and Aaron Rodgers was still on the board.. Ah Joe 2.0, how you set the franchise back..

Anyways, good riddance to Rogers, one of my least favorite Redskins of recent time.. His ego far out paced his talent and production. I never got why he had so many supporters. He was beaten, benched, quit (IMO in 2009) and never took any responsibility. Kick rocks Carlos, enjoy the Bay.[/quote]Well, Paintrain, you win this round. In the sense at least that some of my least favorite Redskins of all time are still on the team.

At least we'll go five and eleven this year with a team of "good guys", completely free of those divas that contribute to teams winning games.

firstdown 08-03-2011 11:16 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;819213]Rogers was picked 9th
C.Bailey was picked 7th

Los wasn't even close to the player CB is/was.. I'd consider him a bust[/quote]

Well hell you could find 100's of picks around number 7 that would show he was not a bust. As far as his ego I always fell WR and CB need that for some reason. I also think that our D's problems last year hurt him as much as anything.

Monkeydad 08-03-2011 11:16 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
[quote=SmootSmack;819256]

I wish him well...[/quote]


I don't. I want our WRs to absolutely embarrass him when we play mid-season and don't mind if other teams light him up either.

The 49ers have really had one of the worst offseasons of any team. They needed a QB, so they re-signed Alex Smith for a 5th chance. Maybe Harbaugh can finally get him to succeed, but there were better options out there. They lost a solid NT and CB...and really have not added anyone of real impact, Rogers included. They subtracted a lot more than they added, but they did it without being in cap trouble like Dallas...it's like they're trying to make Jim Harbaugh's job tougher. :D

Also, Crabtree is out 4-6 weeks with a foot injury and Gore wants paid and WAS holding out. If not for the new holdout fines, he'd be neutering that team.

I expect to see Kaepernick under center by the time we play them in Week 9.

firstdown 08-03-2011 11:23 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
[quote=Monkeydad;819265]I don't. I want our WRs to absolutely embarrass him when we play mid-season and don't mind if other teams light him up either.

The 49ers have really had one of the worst offseasons of any team. They needed a QB, so they re-signed Alex Smith for a 5th chance. Maybe Harbaugh can finally get him to succeed, but there were better options out there. They lost a solid NT and CB...and really have not added anyone of real impact, Rogers included. They subtracted a lot more than they added, but they did it without being in cap trouble like Dallas...it's like they're trying to make Jim Harbaugh's job tougher. :D

Also, Crabtree is out 4-6 weeks with a foot injury and Gore wants paid and WAS holding out. If not for the new holdout fines, he'd be neutering that team.

I expect to see Kaepernick under center by the time we play them in Week 9.[/quote]


So they need a QB and lost a CB and NT. Who does that sound like?

Ruhskins 08-03-2011 11:23 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
[quote=firstdown;819272]So they need a QB and lost a CB and NT. Who does that sound like?[/quote]

We didn't lose a NT.

Monkeydad 08-03-2011 11:34 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
[quote=firstdown;819272]So they need a QB and lost a CB and NT. Who does that sound like?[/quote]
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CultBrennan59 08-03-2011 11:34 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
[quote=saden1;819155]Sad to lose him this way. [B]Josh Wilson is not a capable replacement.[/B] It's going to be amusing to see teams go to work on him.[/quote]

You obviously don't know anything about Josh Wilson, or you're being very sarcastic.

Josh Wilson allowed 46% of the passes thrown his way this past year.
Carlos Rogers allowed 67% of the passes thrown his way, according to profootballfocus.com

Lotus 08-03-2011 11:35 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
[quote=Monkeydad;819265]I don't. I want our WRs to absolutely embarrass him when we play mid-season and don't mind if other teams light him up either.

The 49ers have really had one of the worst offseasons of any team. They needed a QB, so they re-signed Alex Smith for a 5th chance. Maybe Harbaugh can finally get him to succeed, but there were better options out there. They lost a solid NT and CB...and really have not added anyone of real impact, Rogers included. They subtracted a lot more than they added, but they did it without being in cap trouble like Dallas...it's like they're trying to make Jim Harbaugh's job tougher. :D

Also, Crabtree is out 4-6 weeks with a foot injury and Gore wants paid and WAS holding out. If not for the new holdout fines, he'd be neutering that team.

I expect to see Kaepernick under center by the time we play them in Week 9.[/quote]

I agree that they are taking backwards steps for this year.

But looked at charitably, these might be the first steps in the long process of roster overhaul by the new regime. It is hard to judge a successful long-term turnover by just the first steps.

I'm not saying that they will be successful, just trying to view the 9ers charitably.

Longtimefan 08-03-2011 11:39 AM

Re: Carlos Rogers Drops His Heart in San Francisco
 
Carlos....still talking smack quote: “I didn’t have any plans of going back to Washington,” Rogers told Grant Paulsen of 106.7 The Fan in a phone interview. “I wanted to go elsewhere. I thought it was time for me to move on.”


Rogers was philosophical about his time in Washington and moving on. “You know how Washington is. They’re always big in free agency and not signing their guys back and getting other players.”

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/post/report-carlos-rogers-signs-one-year-deal-with-san-francisco-49ers/2011/08/03/gIQAqcfcrI_blog.html]Report: Carlos Rogers signs one-year deal with San Francisco 49ers - The Early Lead - The Washington Post[/url]


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