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redskin29633 01-27-2012 11:35 AM

Re: Around the NFL: Super Bowl Thread
 
[quote=SmootSmack;879461][url=http://www.101espn.com/category/rventuri-blogs/20120127/Super-Bowl-Coaches-from-the-Parcells-School/]101Sports.com: Rick Venturi - Super Bowl Coaches from the Parcells School[/url][/quote]

Good story. It makes me wonder if a coach can be successful in today's NFL without the SOB mantra. It seems that in pushing players and staff, a coach has to be overbearing in order to be successful. These three guys are certainly devoted to that style/approach.

I would like to think there is still room for the Joe Gibbs philosophy, but I'm not sure about that. Probably never see his style replicated anyway, because in my mind, Joe Gibbs was one of a kind!

MTK 01-27-2012 11:36 AM

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[quote=redskin29633;879502]Good story. It makes me wonder if a coach can be successful in today's NFL without the SOB mantra. It seems that in pushing players and staff, a coach has to be overbearing in order to be successful. These three guys are certainly devoted to that style/approach.

I would like to think there is still room for the Joe Gibbs philosophy, but I'm not sure about that. Probably never see his style replicated anyway, because in my mind, Joe Gibbs was one of a kind![/quote]

How about Dungy

NC_Skins 01-27-2012 11:39 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;879503]How about Dungy[/quote]

Well, truthfully he should have won more than he did. Gruden took his team and won the super bowl and he only managed 1 SB with that loaded team in Indy.

It does seem that the Parcells, Bellicheat, Shanahan, Jimmy Johnson, Nick Saban type of coaches are more successful. I attribute that to they hold their players accountable unlike a Wade Phillips or a Norv Turner.

MTK 01-27-2012 11:43 AM

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[quote=NC_Skins;879504]Well, truthfully he should have won more than he did. Gruden took his team and won the super bowl and he only managed 1 SB with that loaded team in Indy.

It does seem that the Parcells, Bellicheat, Shanahan, Jimmy Johnson, Nick Saban type of coaches are more successful. I attribute that to they hold their players accountable unlike a Wade Phillips or a Norv Turner.[/quote]

Regardless, the guy won a lot of games in this league including a SB.

NC_Skins 01-27-2012 11:46 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;879508]Regardless, the guy won a lot of games in this league including a SB.[/quote]

That he did, and you can't really take that away from him. I like the guy and I'd rather play for a Dungy than any of those other coaches I listed. Mostly because I would respond better to how he talked to me as compared to some of those other coaches.

redskin29633 01-27-2012 11:51 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;879503]How about Dungy[/quote]

Good example, but he probably does not win without Peyton Manning. But he did win one, so he deserves some credit for that.

redskin29633 01-27-2012 11:54 AM

Re: Around the NFL: Super Bowl Thread
 
Saw this poll in the Washington Post.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-user-polls/post/when-will-the-redskins-win-another-super-bowl/2012/01/25/gIQA97cNRQ_blog.html]When will the Redskins win another Super Bowl? - Post User Polls - The Washington Post[/url]

Interesting to see the low percentage of Redskin fans who actually believe that we will win a Super Bowl within the next five years.

Giantone 01-27-2012 07:05 PM

Re: Around the NFL: Super Bowl Thread
 
[quote=redskin29633;879514]Good example, but he probably does not win without Peyton Manning. But he did win one, so he deserves some credit for that.[/quote]


Same for Shannahan and Elway.

redskin29633 01-27-2012 10:05 PM

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[quote=Giantone;879589]Same for Shannahan and Elway.[/quote]

Absolutely!

NC_Skins 01-28-2012 10:29 AM

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[quote=Giantone;879589]Same for Shannahan and Elway.[/quote]


Same for Belichek and Brady.
Same for Walsh and Montana.
Same for Noll and Bradshaw.



..and so on.

MTK 01-28-2012 06:02 PM

Re: Around the NFL: Super Bowl Thread
 
[quote=redskin29633;879514]Good example, but he probably does not win without Peyton Manning. But he did win one, so he deserves some credit for that.[/quote]

Nobody wins on their own.

redskin29633 01-28-2012 08:34 PM

Re: Around the NFL: Super Bowl Thread
 
[quote=NC_Skins;879667]Same for Belichek and Brady.
Same for Walsh and Montana.
Same for Noll and Bradshaw.



..and so on.[/quote]

Exception to the rule, Joe Gibbs.

NC_Skins 01-28-2012 08:59 PM

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[quote=redskin29633;879771]Exception to the rule, Joe Gibbs.[/quote]

One can say, he didn't win without the Hoggs. :oink:


...but yeah, to win the Super Bowl with 3 different QBs is pretty damn amazing.

Giantone 01-29-2012 07:51 AM

Re: Around the NFL: Super Bowl Thread
 
[quote=redskin29633;879771]Exception to the rule, Joe Gibbs.[/quote]


...and Parcells,...Simms ...and Hosteler(sp)

irish 01-29-2012 09:21 AM

Re: Around the NFL: Super Bowl Thread
 
[quote=NC_Skins;879779]One can say, he didn't win without the Hoggs. :oink:


...but yeah, to win the Super Bowl with 3 different QBs is pretty damn amazing.[/quote]

That is amazing but back in the day the league wasnt as QB/pass driven as it is today. Teams were much more run first than they are today and Gibbs had a huge O-lins and a great RB in Riggo and very good RBs in Riggs & Byner.


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