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I don't know how people b*tch about Hall's attitude and want to bring batsh*t crazy characters like Pacman Jones, Talib, or McClain. I know they have talent, but these guys are a sneeze away from long term suspensions and have probably done worst things than any of our current players have (except TW and FD maybe).

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Well I don't think Williams and Davis are in same category with whom you mentioned. Smoking weed isn't exactly bad as being charged with some kind of criminal charges like others did

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[quote=firstdown;996436]I have a hard time worrying about the cap because we have one of these threads each year and each year it seems we find the cap money we need.[/quote]

This years different because they are over the cap AND they have several free agents that they want to re-sign. Last season - even with the same cap penalty, they didn't mind losing the players that they cut or didn't re-sign last offseason.

This year there is at least a handful of productive players that they would want to re-sign. And another small difference is - the free agents that were signed last offseason now are counting against the cap - the biggest are Garçon and Morgan.

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[quote=GridIron26;996489]Well I don't think Williams and Davis are in same category with whom you mentioned. Smoking weed isn't exactly bad as being charged with some kind of criminal charges like others did[/quote]

To me, its not the smoking weed that bothers me. It's the multiple warnings they got and continued to do it. They tested positive and basically were told don't do this again, and they still did it. I know a lot was said about the timing of the tests, ect.

That said, they both seemed to clean up fine. Williams from all accounts is motivated as hell, and he played fantastic last year. Davis did all the right things afterwards, and I really hope he comes back. The injury to me is 100x more of a concern to me than any "character" issues.

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... Not saying that they can't sign any new impact free agents but they might have to lose a key productive player (comtributing to a 10-6 playoff team) that will need to be replaced. Namely Hall and Moss.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;996445]Morgan was our best WR last yr damn near[/quote]

I agree. Garcon was easily the only "difference maker" but Morgan I thought was extremley solid. In addition, I really want Hank to step up, and I thought last year was gonna be the year he did, but I didn't think he really played as well as I would have liked in his spot. I wouldn't get rid of Morgan. That said, I'd have no problems rolling with the same group of WR's as we did last year (maybe replacing Brizcoe/Banks).

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On a side note.

We talked about whether Lictensteiger was worth keeping or not as a starter.

nfldraftscout rated the top 70 guards in pro football for last year.

Lichtensteiger comes in at 52. Chris Chester comes in at 12. I say let Kory test the market and if he has no takers resign him to a backup deal and let LeRibeus and him battle it out (w/ LeRibeus being the more likely winner)

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Contrary to what some feel- I think that Lichtensteiger should and will be re-signed because he is very good in Shanahans system, he's Shanahans guy, and he would be reasonably cheap to re-sign because no other team would value him as much (except maybe Houston or another zbs). And also Carriker will not be cut because he is and will be valuable to team and dline in the same way that Lichtensteiger is valuable to the oline. He's also a player that Haslett/shanahan traded for. Their contribution to the team is really not appreciated by fans but valued by coaches and teammates because they are doing their grunt work on the line.

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WHEN the redskins cut hall and moss, they will need to replace them with a starting cb and an above average wideout that produces with critical plays and tds. Or re-sign them to a reduced salary.

I think the later option is what they think is safer and what they will ultimately do.

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I think Shanahan tried to replace Moss with the younger Eddie Royal last offseason, but obviously that didn't work out. I don't think theres a wideout that can equal his production in fa this year.

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If Hankerson steps up, the loss of Moss is not so critical.

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[quote=Lotus;996509]If Hankerson steps up, the loss of Moss is not so critical.[/quote]

I agree but how will you know whether he steps up BEFORE losing Moss.

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Morgan didn't impress me. He's decent but we can get better at WR c'mon now.

Hankersons been my guy to start stepping up yet to see it. Moss/DeAngelo.. Guys with a chip.. They win games. U need attitude were a gritty team bottom line. I can see one more season each.

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[quote=warriorzpath;996512]I agree but how will you know whether he steps up BEFORE losing Moss.[/quote]

You gotta believe!!

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[quote=warriorzpath;996512]I agree but how will you know whether he steps up BEFORE losing Moss.[/quote]

Hank looked pretty good in limited action last year. If he can fix his biggest problem - the dropsies - he could make us forget about Moss quickly.

Also don't forget about Aldrick Robinson. It should be expected that by September either Hank or Robinson will have developed to the point where they would beat out Moss anyway. Then we have Garcon - Morgan - Hankerson - Robinson as our 4 wideouts. In this scenario, paying Moss to be #5 makes little sense for several reasons.

I am not a Santana hater. I'm just trying to be realistic.