Re: Cowboys Sign Romo to $108M Deal: Skins Fans Rejoice!
 

[quote=Mattyk;1001039]I don't have a problem with them re-signing him but the money is ridiculous.[/quote]

Yeah this is how I see it.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1001039]I don't have a problem with them re-signing him but the money is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much, he's not bad he just can't win in December. I'm curious what cowgirls fans are thinking, figured sandtrap would have trolled through by now. I hope Jerruh lives forever he is such a great gm!

Re: Cowboys Sign Romo to $108M Deal: Skins Fans Rejoice!
 

Well, all I know is that I almost got into a fight this morning at the Circle K here in El Paso (just outside ft bliss). I was buying my coffee, and I saw a news roller that is supposed to be for the lotteries roll the news that the cowboys just paid 108 mil for Tony Romo, and 55 mil was guaranteed. I started laughing my ass off, almost to the point of crying. There were 3 guys behind me that asked me what was wrong, so I told them how happy I was that the cowboys are a bunch of ****ing retards signing Romo for that much. Needless to say, words were exchanged, lol. I only wish I was wearing my RG3 jersey at the time.

LOL

[QUOTE=Giantone;1001033]Ok, why?[/QUOTE]

Because everyone hates on Dallas, doesn't matter who plays for them.

Before Griffin, I would have taken romo in a heartbeat over what we had

Re: Cowboys Sign Romo to $108M Deal: Skins Fans Rejoice!
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1001060]Because everyone hates on Dallas, doesn't matter who plays for them.

Before Griffin, I would have taken romo in a heartbeat over what we had[/quote]


I was'nt being a smartass, IMHO....Romo has had every opportunity to win ,he has had good players around him and still when it matters most he comes up short, he's had running backs ,receivers, TE's and a good D to go along with his regular season stats, he has even had some very good coach's ...Parcells, Wade Phillips I'll stop there but he has not proven to be worth what they just did, not even close.

[QUOTE=Giantone;1001062]I was'nt being a smartass, IMHO....Romo has had every opportunity to win ,he has had good players around him and still when it matters most he comes up short, he's had running backs ,receivers, TE's and a good D to go along with his regular season stats, he has even had some very good coach's ...Parcells, Wade Phillips I'll stop there but he has not proven to be worth what they just did, not even close.[/QUOTE]

No I don't think he's worth 55 million but who else would they go get? There is no qbs in the draft worth a top pick and none in FA. Qbs are overpaid it's just how the league is.

Re: Cowboys Sign Romo to $108M Deal: Skins Fans Rejoice!
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1001060]Because everyone hates on Dallas, doesn't matter who plays for them.

Before Griffin, I would have taken romo in a heartbeat over what we had[/quote]

Dallas is pretty polarizing. They get plenty of undeserved love as well as some well deserved hate (or have you forgotten the oh so puke worthy Romo love a couple of years ago after his punctured lung?)

Sure, Romo is a good QB, and better than what we had. Is he worth the money being paid? No. Is he a choke artist? In my opinion, until he stops collapsing in big games and having "fluke plays" in those games ... Yup.

I, for one, am glad they are saddled with him for the next 2-3 years. Just means they will get Cowboys fans will get their hearts broken year after year after year ...

Re: Cowboys Sign Romo to $108M Deal: Skins Fans Rejoice!
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1001064]No I don't think he's worth 55 million but who else would they go get? There is no qbs in the draft worth a top pick and none in FA. Qbs are overpaid it's just how the league is.[/quote]

This.

The real issue is that they didn't sign him before Flacco set the market. They cold have wrapped this up before or at the end of the season. Flacco's deal would have been a non-issue.

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It's alot like the Flacco contract. IMO unless the guy is in that top 5 echelon of QBs. The team is sacrificing quite a few good players around them for their contracts. Your giving these guys 15% of your cap on average, for the life of these deals.

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1001065]Dallas is pretty polarizing. They get plenty of undeserved love as well as some well deserved hate (or have you forgotten the oh so puke worthy Romo love a couple of years ago after his punctured lung?)

Sure, Romo is a good QB, and better than what we had. Is he worth the money being paid? No. Is he a choke artist? In my opinion, until he stops collapsing in big games and having "fluke plays" in those games ... Yup.

I, for one, am glad they are saddled with him for the next 2-3 years. Just means they will get Cowboys fans will get their hearts broken year after year after year ...[/QUOTE]

Yeah I'm with you on the next 3 years. I'm excited we are building a strong team! Httr

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In all fairness though, it IS possible that Romo and the Boys could put together one good season and roll to the Super Bowl. It's not like they don't have any weapons. They are a playoff caliber team and anything's possible.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1001064]No I don't think he's worth 55 million but who else would they go get? There is no qbs in the draft worth a top pick and none in FA. Qbs are overpaid it's just how the league is.[/quote]

Vinny... is that you?

55 mil guaranteed to someone that will be 33 before the season starts is crazy. Especially when he has had solid teams around him in the past and couldnt come through. Im sick of listening to the whole argument that Dallas has never had a good player except Tony Romo since he has been there. Thats just outright nonsense. The Cowboys in his early years had better talent around Romo than RG3 had this past year. Given the injuries to key players this past year (Garcon, Davis, ect), that makes it even worse.

QB's arent overpaid in this league. They are the most important piece. But unless they have won you SB's or even gotten to some conference championships, you dont give a 33 year old that amount of guaranteed money. The Cowboys are already in salary cap purgatory, now they are in even deeper with a QB that will be in decline. At 33, I doubt he is going to get better.

The Cowboys need a major overhaul, so anytime they keep an aging vet and sign him to an uncuttable for 3 or 4 years contract, they are making matters worse, not better (Better if looking at it from a Redskins standpoint).

Since the whole Tony Romo has never had a good team around him argument is always used. What changes this year then? What exactly are you seeing in Dallas that makes you think Romo will now get over the hump?

Since that argument dictates that they wont win anything, why not move on and try to get your cap in order while drafting some young pieces who will EVENTUALLY win?

If you want to defend the move because you hate Dallas and think its funny, then be my guest (I do). But you seem to be saying that its a "good move" for that franchise... I couldnt disagree more. They are better off losing 12 games instead of 8 for a couple of years and building with higher draft picks.

Plain and simple, Romo's contract is a Vinny move. And Vinny moves have been proven to not work in the first year, and cost the team dearly in dead cap in later years. Im glad its now the Cowboys doing those contracts and not us anymore.

Re: Cowboys Sign Romo to $108M Deal: Skins Fans Rejoice!
 

[quote=12thMan;1001069]In all fairness though, it IS possible that[B] Romo and the Boys could put together one good season and roll to the Super Bowl.[/B] It's not like they don't have any weapons. They are a playoff caliber team and anything's possible.[/quote]

A pox upon you sir.

Re: Cowboys Sign Romo to $108M Deal: Skins Fans Rejoice!
 

[quote=12thMan;1001069]In all fairness though, it IS possible that Romo and the Boys could put together one good season and roll to the Super Bowl. It's not like they don't have any weapons. They are a playoff caliber team and anything's possible.[/quote]

Could it happen, maybe, but honestly their window is closing for a couple of reasons:
[LIST][*]Their core players are getting older.[*]They are in a constant struggle between coach and GM/owner, for example if they are 4-4 at midway next year, there will be a lot of talk about Garrett being gone.[*]TR as JR as said, is prone to a bad play at the wrong time, a lot of people look at their December run last year, but if you look at the end of the Cinci game, TR threw gift picks that Cinci defenders dropped. Had they caught one of those, the last game of the season would not have been a win and in game for them (i guess by my logic I am glad Cinci dropped those picks LOL).[*]Finally, their salary cap situation for the next 3 years is very prohibitive and they will be forced to let players that are important to their team see FA rather than re-sign them. For example Sean Lee is a free agent after next year, and 35 of their currently signed players hit some form of FA in 2015, including Dez Bryant, Demarco Murray, Tyron Smith, and right now they are at 135M(FOR 21 players!) for 2015, even assuming TV money kicks in, they are going to be restructuring forever at this rate.[/LIST]



So, if they struggle this year, Garrett will get canned, and the new coach will have Romo, and a hellacious salary cap to deal with.

That puts alot of win now pressure on Garrett and Romo. I am hoping that I will be loving it.

for those who are curious, we have 30 contracts for 2015, totaling 99Mil
(contract stats from where else? overthecap.com)

[QUOTE=Skinzman;1001071]Vinny... is that you?

55 mil guaranteed to someone that will be 33 before the season starts is crazy. Especially when he has had solid teams around him in the past and couldnt come through. Im sick of listening to the whole argument that Dallas has never had a good player except Tony Romo since he has been there. Thats just outright nonsense. The Cowboys in his early years had better talent around Romo than RG3 had this past year. Given the injuries to key players this past year (Garcon, Davis, ect), that makes it even worse.

QB's arent overpaid in this league. They are the most important piece. But unless they have won you SB's or even gotten to some conference championships, you dont give a 33 year old that amount of guaranteed money. The Cowboys are already in salary cap purgatory, now they are in even deeper with a QB that will be in decline. At 33, I doubt he is going to get better.

The Cowboys need a major overhaul, so anytime they keep an aging vet and sign him to an uncuttable for 3 or 4 years contract, they are making matters worse, not better (Better if looking at it from a Redskins standpoint).

Since the whole Tony Romo has never had a good team around him argument is always used. What changes this year then? What exactly are you seeing in Dallas that makes you think Romo will now get over the hump?

Since that argument dictates that they wont win anything, why not move on and try to get your cap in order while drafting some young pieces who will EVENTUALLY win?

If you want to defend the move because you hate Dallas and think its funny, then be my guest (I do). But you seem to be saying that its a "good move" for that franchise... I couldnt disagree more. They are better off losing 12 games instead of 8 for a couple of years and building with higher draft picks.

Plain and simple, Romo's contract is a Vinny move. And Vinny moves have been proven to not work in the first year, and cost the team dearly in dead cap in later years. Im glad its now the Cowboys doing those contracts and not us anymore.[/QUOTE]

So was flaccos deal a vinny move too? He was the highest paid QB ever lmao.
And I never said he's played on bad teams, his numbers are great if u actually looked at his stats. He puts up top 10 numbers every season.