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The Goat 10-14-2013 12:46 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1032700]Tonight, I just don't understand why people are bitching about the defense. What did Dez Bryant do? How many yards did Dallas have? To me the defense is getting better and the offense is getting worse.[/quote]

It's that some ppl think the defense has a lot of talent, not elite but definitely top 10 worthy. I'd love to see what Wade Philips, Rob Ryan, or Gregg Williams could do with this roster.

rbanerjee23 10-14-2013 12:46 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1032700]Tonight, I just don't understand why people are bitching about the defense. What did Dez Bryant do? How many yards did Dallas have? To me the defense is getting better and the offense is getting worse.[/quote]

They can't tackle for one thing.

tc2deuce 10-14-2013 12:48 AM

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O-Line is the worst in the NFL!!!! if we had a top 15 )-Line we would be at the top of the NFC East! We all knew this last season and this offseason but we did NOTHING

Ruhskins 10-14-2013 12:49 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1032700]Tonight, I just don't understand why people are bitching about the defense. What did Dez Bryant do? How many yards did Dallas have? To me the defense is getting better and the offense is getting worse.[/quote]

Some people are on auto b*tching I guess.

punch it in 10-14-2013 12:51 AM

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1032704]1.) Plenty of HCs have losing records their first go around and have better luck on their 2nd chance

2.) Stingy ownership in Tampa hurt him

3) A rookie GM and a rookie HC forced to let a lot of veteran leadership go hurt him in Tampa

4) Like I said, I think he deserves a 2nd chance. Just not sure it should be here. This is not an easy place to be a HC[/QUOTE]

Yeah all valid arguments, and I know he did not have alot to work with in Tampa. If the players respect him than maybe it would be a good move. I guess after watching this team take the field again I just want to move completely away from anyone and everyone currently employed on this staff. Uggh.

NC_Skins 10-14-2013 12:52 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1032692]Well i would argue that wins and losses are pretty important. Lol. What is it about him outside of his coaching record that makes you more open minded to giving him the job?[/quote]

Bill Bellichik and Pete Carroll were both given second chances. Their first stints were horrible disasters.

punch it in 10-14-2013 12:52 AM

[QUOTE=The Goat;1032707]It's that some ppl think the defense has a lot of talent, not elite but definitely top 10 worthy. I'd love to see what Wade Philips, Rob Ryan, or Gregg Williams could do with this roster.[/QUOTE]
Do you think this team has top ten talent?

Green Monk Machine 10-14-2013 12:59 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1032714]Do you think this team has top ten talent?[/quote]

Only at LT, FB, NT, but a vehicle is only as good as who is guiding it. Most gets are lost on the sidelines. Last season most games were won with the QB until the sidelines couldn't convey to him to stay protected. The read option is a joke. Nothing compares or adds longevity to success than a ocket QB. Why are we playing NCAA ball in the nfl ??????

Bucket 10-14-2013 01:00 AM

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Oh, I love these threads lol.

Just going to cliff note it.

-RG3 can't run an NFL type offense
-D. Hall is good
-D. Hall is bad
-Cowboys suck to, we suck worse
-Mike needs to be fired
-Kyle needs to be fired
-special Teams suck
-Mike needs more time
-Kyle doesn't like Mike
-Morris needs to be our HC for his next stint
-Our defense has the talent, just not the coaching
-Fletcher sucks because he's to old
-We can't beat the Giants.
-Etc

Personally, I think we are just playing to our potential at the moment. Games can swing in many different directions. Kai missed another one tonight, and our special teams let us down. A lot of big plays were missed, and allowed.

Hijinx 10-14-2013 01:06 AM

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I think the $36 million penalty is a huge thing. That money would have made a big difference on the O-line and D-secondary.

Bucket 10-14-2013 01:06 AM

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We will be 5-5 going in to SF.

GTripp0012 10-14-2013 01:09 AM

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[quote=Hijinx;1032725]I think the $36 million penalty is a huge thing. That money would have made a big difference on the O-line and D-secondary.[/quote]Sean Taylor passing away was a pretty huge thing too, as long as we're citing things that could have been different.

The Goat 10-14-2013 01:21 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1032714]Do you think this team has top ten talent?[/quote]

Boarder line, with the oline putting us on the bubble. Defensively I think our front 7 personnel are solid top ten with a great defensive mind coaching them and Brandon Merriweather was a probowler not too long ago and if finally healthy. Offensively, I think our QB, RBs, TEs, WRs all have top ten potential with the right coach on the sidelines. Oline could be better too though maybe just above avg today, but top ten within a year. BA and Shanahan have done a solid job building the roster IMO.

punch it in 10-14-2013 01:23 AM

[QUOTE=The Goat;1032730]Boarder line, with the oline putting us on the bubble. Defensively I think our front 7 personnel are solid top ten with a great defensive mind coaching them and Brandon Merriweather was a probowler not too long ago and if finally healthy. Offensively, I think our QB, RBs, TEs, WRs all have top ten potential with the right coach on the sidelines. Oline could be better too though maybe just above avg today, but top ten within a year. BA and Shanahan have done a solid job building the roster IMO.[/QUOTE]

I just meant on defense as per your post. I do not think we are a top ten talent on defense....at all.

GTripp0012 10-14-2013 01:24 AM

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To be fair, you can add Bill Belichick and Lovie Smith to the list of coaches who can't get a decent season out of Brandon Meriweather.


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