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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1065439]Crazy thing yesterday. Was flipping thru and stopped on CNN, and they had a segment on the creation of the charity and the Redskins name controversy. Their special guest was part of the Smithsonian Native American board, and I thought it would be interesting, then the guest said, "I wrote my first letter on this topic to the WP in 1973 when I was 18". My only thought was, then wouldn't it make sense for CNN to have a strong proponent of keeping the name? Clearly their guest had no objectivity, which is fine, except the host made no attempt at presenting a different view, simply kept feeding simplistic questions to allow the guest to go on about all names, and Redskins in particular.[/quote]

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Re: Redskins' Dan Snyder Announces Creation of Foundation to Help Native Americans
 

And it starts.

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/redskins-owners-starts-charity-youll-forget-racist-team-061432710.html[/url]

Re: Redskins' Dan Snyder Announces Creation of Foundation to Help Native Americans
 

[quote=Mechanix544;1065450]And it starts.

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/redskins-owners-starts-charity-youll-forget-racist-team-061432710.html[/url][/quote]

[quote][B]While the effort is commendable,[/B] it’s also an obvious attempt at misdirection to take pressure off the team over their offensive namesake.[/quote]

Why not just leave it at that? Why try to stir up more fake outrage by writing an idiotic article about how Snyder is attempting to "divert attention" from the "racist team name" by addressing Native Americans' real challenges? Snyder's doing more to help the Native Americans than probably anyone from Yahoo or The Wire has ever done in their whole life for [I]anyone[/I] in need. Instead of wasting his time writing this article, Mr. Brian Feldman should have called Snyder and asked how he could help with the foundation; then he'd actually be doing some good.

And this quote just makes me sob: “[Snyder] can cry about high rates of suicides but he doesn’t begin to understand how he’s contributing to that and that this is a real matter of life and death,” she told ThinkProgress." Really? So instead of poverty, lack of education, or some other problem Native Americans face, you're going to blame the name of a football team for high suicide rates? You know what? I [I]totally[/I] understand that.

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[quote=SirLK26;1065453]Why not just leave it at that? Why try to stir up more fake outrage by writing an idiotic article about how Snyder is attempting to "divert attention" from the "racist team name" by addressing Native Americans' real challenges? Snyder's doing more to help the Native Americans than probably anyone from Yahoo or The Wire has ever done in their whole life for [I]anyone[/I] in need. Instead of wasting his time writing this article, Mr. Brian Feldman should have called Snyder and asked how he could help with the foundation; then he'd actually be doing some good.

And this quote just makes me sob: “[Snyder] can cry about high rates of suicides but he doesn’t begin to understand how he’s contributing to that and that this is a real matter of life and death,” she told ThinkProgress." Really? So instead of poverty, lack of education, or some other problem Native Americans face, you're going to blame the name of a football team for high suicide rates? You know what? I [I]totally[/I] understand that.[/quote]

How in the world is Snyder contributing to the suicide rate amongst Native Americans? What an idiotic article this is! Opps....hope that wasn't derogatory.

Because we *have* to apportion blame, no personal responsibility needed

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Snyder has been devaluing the prestige of the Redskins brand for a better part of a decade now and this PR move isn't going to change that nor will it change the desire by many to have the name changed. The loss of the Redskins trademark is inevitable and I for one hope it happens. These Redskins are not the Redskins of yesteryears and every year that passes by it becomes harder to relate the brand. Honestly, this is a great opportunity to re-brand the team before the brand's value becomes junk. It worked for Arthur Anderson, I can't imagine why it wouldn't work for Daniel Snyer.

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We need a negative nancy/debbie downer badge (along the lines of the VIP/Mod badges) that the mods can give out for those who excel in all things negative.

Re: Redskins' Dan Snyder Announces Creation of Foundation to Help Native Americans
 

[quote=saden1;1065585]Snyder has been devaluing the prestige of the Redskins brand for a better part of a decade now and this PR move isn't going to change that nor will it change the desire by many to have the name changed. The loss of the Redskins trademark is inevitable and I for one hope it happens. These Redskins are not the Redskins of yesteryears and every year that passes by it becomes harder to relate the brand. Honestly, this is a great opportunity to re-brand the team before the brand's value becomes junk. It worked for Arthur Anderson, I can't imagine why it wouldn't work for Daniel Snyer.[/quote]

It's already devalued. But that's not because of resistance to change the name.

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Regardless of what we think, we should give Snyder credit for taking the time to hear these people out. Apparently he did travel to some of these Indian reservations so good for him. But as I mentioned, stop with the statements. Come and and talk for once.

Re: Redskins' Dan Snyder Announces Creation of Foundation to Help Native Americans
 

[quote=saden1;1065585]Snyder has been devaluing the prestige of the Redskins brand for a better part of a decade now and this PR move isn't going to change that nor will it change the desire by many to have the name changed. The loss of the Redskins trademark is inevitable and I for one hope it happens. These Redskins are not the Redskins of yesteryears and every year that passes by it becomes harder to relate the brand. Honestly, this is a great opportunity to re-brand the team before the brand's value becomes junk. It worked for Arthur Anderson, I can't imagine why it wouldn't work for Daniel Snyer.[/quote]

So you want them to lose the trademark, but not because you have a problem with the name, but because you hate Dan Snyder. Interesting...

If the team is rebranded, it will still be owned by Dan. Of all the reasons I have heard for changing the name, this is the first time I have heard loss of prestige of the Redskins brand due to not liking the owner.

I am not going to post a link because Mike Wise articles ought to be banned from all creation, but a news feed app pulled his latest Snyder hatchet job about finding a native american woman who posted a selfie with a 10 dollar bill over her mouth. You can guess the rest of the article.

I really would like to know what exactly Snyder did to Wise. I know the basics but he seems like he has only one mission and that is to tear anything that Snyder does down. And I would love to understand why the Post continues to employ him.

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This whole name thing has me playing Pontius Pilate. Make no mistake, I'm very attached to the name and certainly would never think of it as a racial slur. However at the same time I understand that while it may be a minority of people that are offended by the name you have to at least respect and understand that.

Even if its as small as 10% the fact of the matter is that a key principle in this countries is at the very least respecting and hearing out the views of a minority opinion. Now if its hogwash like refusing to give your diabetic kid insulin because of certain religious beliefs then obviously its fair to quickly disregard that but in the case of something less tangible like the Redskins name I guess we've had a good run at least avoiding this discussion.

I am somewhat open to changing the name but I think my breaking point would be if they had to significantly change the uniforms and logo. To me the burgundy and gold as well as the chief on the side of the helmet are the key symbols of the team for me.

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1065594]Regardless of what we think, we should give Snyder credit for taking the time to hear these people out. Apparently he did travel to some of these Indian reservations so good for him. But as I mentioned, stop with the statements. Come and and talk for once.[/QUOTE]

I can't find the story but a month or two ago I remember Bruce Allen talking about visiting various tribes and them telling them they did not find the name offensive which I kind of found humorous. Not because I think Allen is lying but rather because he seems to have a well deserved reputation as a charmer, something I've heard from various people who have gotten a chance to meet him. The type of guy that if you're pro or anti (*insert political issue here*) he could get you to at least strongly consider switching sides.

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[quote=tc2deuce;1065380]If the Redskins name goes then I want the state of Oklahoma to change their name[B] and I want the Yankees to go as well!!! I am offended when other countries call me a yank[/B]![/quote]

Agreed I have never nor have I even considered engaging in self-amorous physical movement practices. And while I did see the cover of an SI swimsuit issue once in line at the market I can assure you that I quickly looked away.

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Re: Redskins' Dan Snyder Announces Creation of Foundation to Help Native Americans
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1065610]I am not going to post a link because Mike Wise articles ought to be banned from all creation, but a news feed app pulled his latest Snyder hatchet job about finding a native american woman who posted a selfie with a 10 dollar bill over her mouth. You can guess the rest of the article.

I really would like to know what exactly Snyder did to Wise. I know the basics but he seems like he has only one mission and that is to tear anything that Snyder does down. And I would love to understand why the Post continues to employ him.[/quote]

What it basically comes down too is a sports media movement since around 2000 where the media now considers themselves part of the the show. At the same time print has become old fashion. Add to the fact "sports" itself has moved from a multi-million dollar empire from the 80s to a multi-billion revenue machine. Combine these 3, it waters down everything, and the way to get notice is who can sling the most sh*t. Days of "reporting" is over. Mike Wise, Doyle, Sports Junkies, Skip Bayless, Stephen A Smith, Czabe, Kornhieser, Wilbon,Costas, DP, Yahoo's idiot squad, and (insert whoever you personally dont like), etc...[B]these guys [U]want[/U] to matter too you more than who they cover[/B]

Re: Redskins' Dan Snyder Announces Creation of Foundation to Help Native Americans
 

[url=http://www.buzzfeed.com/mbvd/colbert-report-ignites-outrage-with-deleted-asian-joke-tweet?bffb]"Colbert Report" Ignites Outrage With Deleted Asian Joke Tweet[/url]

Stephen Colbert made a satirical joke about the Snyder making this foundation but instead used Asians. Now everyone's losing their minds.