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[quote=Mattyk;1081688]There's just no defending it or rationalizing it. I wish people would stop trying to.[/quote]

Agreed. The situations where you can even start to consider rationalizing it are so extreme and rare that 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time it boils down to a guy being a scumbag. The Ray Rice fiasco doesn't even come close to having any sort of justification.

Tiger Woods basically got concussed by his wife, after a golf club through a window to the face caused him to crash his car, and still never laid a hand on her.

Re: Ravens release Ray Rice
 

[quote=warpaint;1081689]I dont want to come across like im backing homeboy im not. I just hate the fact that it seems like once the video came out thats when people gave a shit. I was raised by a single mother who went through all that violence and i was a scared little kid that couldnt protect her. that shit breaks my heart and it stills fucks with today 20 years later. I dont and will never condone it. i dont apologize for my comment I hate bandwagoon folks.[/quote]

How else should people react to a video like that? Plenty of people had their concerns about Rice before seeing it, I don't think anyone agreed with the lame 2 game suspension.

Re: Ravens release Ray Rice
 

[quote=warpaint;1081689]I dont want to come across like im backing homeboy im not. I just hate the fact that it seems like once the video came out thats when people gave a shit. I was raised by a single mother who went through all that violence and i was a scared little kid that couldnt protect her. that shit breaks my heart and it stills fucks with today 20 years later. I dont and will never condone it. i dont apologize for my comment I hate bandwagoon folks.[/quote]

I honestly feel that Rice's people hid things when it first happened; and the Ravens were too quick to sweep everything under the rug. I personally feel the video is just so sickening and shocking, that it led to the reaction.

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I tell ya, they need to run the john harbaugh press conference the first time he addressed this issue. Harbaugh and the ravens organization can go to hell. Eff them all.

Re: Ravens release Ray Rice
 

[quote=Mattyk;1081692]How else should people react to a video like that? Plenty of people had their concerns about Rice before seeing it, I don't think anyone agreed with the lame 2 game suspension.[/quote]

That 2 game suspension was bull. I really cant give a good answer. I really dont know. I just dont like the talking heads jumping all over the ship when they should done it from the get go. Who knows.

Re: Ravens release Ray Rice
 

I heard Rog Goodell hired this guy as one of his personal advisers for public affairs.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcd1l2wh-NY[/url]

Re: Ravens release Ray Rice
 

[quote=warpaint;1081698]That 2 game suspension was bull. I really cant give a good answer. I really dont know. I just dont like the talking heads jumping all over the ship when they should done it from the get go. Who knows.[/quote]

Talking heads were talking plenty on this story initially, but without definitive proof what can you do?

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[quote=Ruhskins;1081694]I honestly feel that Rice's people hid things when it first happened; and the Ravens were too quick to sweep everything under the rug. I personally feel the video is just so sickening and shocking, that it led to the reaction.[/quote]

Yeah I get the feeling everyone involved wanted this whole story buried as quickly as possible. Until the video showed up they almost did it too. Disgusting.

Re: Ravens release Ray Rice
 

Personally I think the ownership of the Ravens needs to address this and not the coach

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IDK. Sad story really dont know. All i know is he is fucked.

Re: Ravens release Ray Rice
 

[quote=Mattyk;1081702]Yeah I get the feeling everyone involved wanted this whole story buried as quickly as possible. Until the video showed up they almost did it too. Disgusting.[/quote]

You wonder if the video even surfaces if that casino didn't close earlier this month

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1081703]Personally I think the ownership of the Ravens needs to address this and not the coach[/quote]

Seriously, poorly handled on their part yet again.

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[quote=warpaint;1081704]IDK. Sad story really dont know. All i know is he is fucked.[/quote]

We r a second chance nation, if he commits himself to change and stays in shape I wouldn't be surprised if he is given the opportunity to at least attempt a comeback.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1081703]Personally I think the ownership of the Ravens needs to address this and not the coach[/quote]

Agreed. Steve Bisciotti should have been the one on the podium addressing the situation. And what I don't get is that, if Rice lied to them, they should have stated that in any communication with the press. Which makes it easy to assume that they were involved in the cover up.

I know people want to buried Goodell, and rightfully so, but to me this is more on the Ravens as an organization.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1081709]Agreed. Steve Bisciotti should have been the one on the podium addressing the situation. And what I don't get is that, if Rice lied to them, they should have stated that in any communication with the press. Which makes it easy to assume that they were involved in the cover up.

I know people want to buried Goodell, and rightfully so, but to me this is more on the Ravens as an organization.[/quote]

I agree. You can throw the state of NJ in there too. Piss poor on the prosecutors part but idk Joe could shed light on that