Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 

That would make me vomit if we hired from within on this one. We need someone PROVEN right now. We really don't have a window to let someone learn on the job after fielding shitty defenses in this past. This would be Barry all over again (except he has a bit more experience).

Look at this: [url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sfo/2007.htm]2007 San Francisco 49ers Statistics & Players | Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

This is even with a pretty talented defense. Gross.

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 

Argh. Here's his other stop: [url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sdg/2011.htm]2011 San Diego Chargers Statistics & Players | Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

After Rivera left (who had an elite defense), it went to shit in his first year.

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 

Ah, here we go: [url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/ManuGr0.htm]Greg Manusky Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks | Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

In his best season he was mediocre at BEST. If you look at some of those teams, there is a shit ton of defensive talent it looks like he got nothing out of.

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 

Did jay hire joe? I don't remember.. Either way it's a great move

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Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 

[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1161752]Argh. Here's his other stop: [URL="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sdg/2011.htm"]2011 San Diego Chargers Statistics & Players | Pro-Football-Reference.com[/URL]

After Rivera left (who had an elite defense), it went to shit in his first year.[/quote]

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Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1161754]Did jay hire joe? I don't remember.. Either way it's a great move

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Jay did hire Joe. Hopefully he's learned his lesson.

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 

Jat Gruden had better get this next DC hire right or he may be the next coach out the door.

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 

[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1161752]Argh. Here's his other stop: [url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sdg/2011.htm]2011 San Diego Chargers Statistics & Players | Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

After Rivera left (who had an elite defense), it went to shit in his first year.[/quote]

I don't want this guy coaching our defense

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 

- No second chance guys (Manusky)
- No unproven up-and-comers
- No a-holes (Rex Ryan)
- Don't over-think it. Just hire the best there is - Wade Phillips.

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1161759]Jat Gruden had better get this next DC hire right or he may be the next coach out the door.[/quote]

Just read an article that says that's basically the threat. If you can't hire the right staff how can you be trusted to lead a team?

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 

[quote=SkinsGuru;1161739]so what about Rex Ryan as a DC? he is not going to get looked at as a HC anytime soon, but was a great 3-4 DC . . . thoughts? I'd be game myself[/quote]

he is going to be on TV, lot shorts hours for about the same pay.

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 

I still want Wade Phillips :(

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 

We still have Wes Phillips on staff with the tight ends...

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/05/will-washington-make-a-run-at-wade-phillips/]Will Washington make a run at Wade Phillips? | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 

It's about damn time! It's a positive that Gruden wants to blow up the entire defensive coaching staff.....Perry Fewell was probably fired because the secondary as a whole greatly underperformed...... I'm looking forward to the Redskins hiring the new DC and I'm anxious to know what coaches he will add to his staff.....

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1161768]I still want Wade Phillips :()[/quote]

You and me both, brother.

If it's Gus Bradley I'm happy, if it's Manusky I'm pissed. But if it's Wade then I'm ecstatic.