Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 

[quote=53Fan;1167620][url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Kirk-Cousins-wont-sign-with-Bruce-Allen-still-employed-51703015]Report: Kirk Cousins won't sign with Bruce Allen still employed[/url]

Now that he's signed the tag he can be traded. Maybe that was the plan. Obviously no love lost between Kirk and Allen. [B]Read somewhere Scott wanted him signed last year, Allen didnt[/B].[/quote]

Pretty sure it was Jay and Scott (wanted him signed) against Bruce and Dan(turds of a feather...still mad RG3 didn't work out and hate Cousins) . Pathetic.

Id like this to be resolved in the next couple months, either give him the deal or trade him.

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 

[quote=53Fan;1167620][url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Kirk-Cousins-wont-sign-with-Bruce-Allen-still-employed-51703015]Report: Kirk Cousins won't sign with Bruce Allen still employed[/url]

Now that he's signed the tag he can be traded. Maybe that was the plan. Obviously no love lost between Kirk and Allen. Read somewhere Scott wanted him signed last year, Allen didnt.[/quote]Can't make this shit up. SMH.

They need to wipe the egg off their faces and trade him while they can still get something for him.

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 

Cousins is set make $23.94 million under the franchise tag in 2017 if no long term deal is signed by mid July. If Cousins refuses to play (unlikely), the tag would roll over to 2018 and 2017 would not count as a tag year. Cousins has to play for Skins in 2017 since he signed the franchise tag today. The Skins could use the transition tag in 2018 which would be a 20% increase to 2017 or $28.78 million. The transition tag would allow Cousins to get offers from other teams but the Skins can match any deal and Cousins would have to sign it regardless. If he plays under the transition tag, he would be a free agent in 2019 as the Skins are unable to tag him the 4th time under the CBA. I am fully aware of his disdain for Allen/Snyder but minus the cap ramifications the Skins do have control the next 2 years although Cousins has the leverage financially. The caveat here is that if the Skins don't match offers in 2018 under the transition tag, they would receive no compensation for losing him. This is not an ideal situation but having Cousins under control for 2 years and no future cap hits is not as bad as it seems especially if the cap continues to increase annually.

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Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 

[quote=Chico23231;1167622]Pretty sure it was Jay and Scott (wanted him signed) against Bruce and Dan(turds of a feather...still mad RG3 didn't work out and hate Cousins) . Pathetic.

Id like this to be resolved in the next couple months, either give him the deal or trade him.[/quote]

I think the team wants to give him a deal, but if he doesn't want to be here that's a problem he is creating.

I don't mind Bruce asking for a steep price for Cousins, his (KC) attitude and desire to go to SF would be costing the franchise a lot and the team would need a lot of draft ammo to rebuild.

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 

Ricky Jean on the radio today basically backed up Cousins and in a nut shell said the Redskins are a mess. RJ is a respected guy and a stand up solid guy, not a disgruntled employee. That says a lot...

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 

[quote=The Whale 13;1167642]Cousins is set make $23.94 million under the franchise tag in 2017 if no long term deal is signed by mid July. If Cousins refuses to play (unlikely), the tag would roll over to 2018 and 2017 would not count as a tag year. Cousins has to play for Skins in 2017 since he signed the franchise tag today. The Skins could use the transition tag in 2018 which would be a 20% increase to 2017 or $28.78 million. The transition tag would allow Cousins to get offers from other teams but the Skins can match any deal and Cousins would have to sign it regardless. If he plays under the transition tag, he would be a free agent in 2019 as the Skins are unable to tag him the 4th time under the CBA. I am fully aware of his disdain for Allen/Snyder but minus the cap ramifications the Skins do have control the next 2 years although Cousins has the leverage financially. The caveat here is that if the Skins don't match offers in 2018 under the transition tag, they would receive no compensation for losing him. This is not an ideal situation but having Cousins under control for 2 years and no future cap hits is not as bad as it seems especially if the cap continues to increase annually.

First post but a long time lurker.[/quote]

good post, keep at it.

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 

[quote=The Whale 13;1167642]Cousins is set make $23.94 million under the franchise tag in 2017 if no long term deal is signed by mid July. If Cousins refuses to play (unlikely), the tag would roll over to 2018 and 2017 would not count as a tag year. Cousins has to play for Skins in 2017 since he signed the franchise tag today. The Skins could use the transition tag in 2018 which would be a 20% increase to 2017 or $28.78 million. The transition tag would allow Cousins to get offers from other teams but the Skins can match any deal and Cousins would have to sign it regardless. If he plays under the transition tag, he would be a free agent in 2019 as the Skins are unable to tag him the 4th time under the CBA. I am fully aware of his disdain for Allen/Snyder but minus the cap ramifications the Skins do have control the next 2 years although Cousins has the leverage financially. The caveat here is that if the Skins don't match offers in 2018 under the transition tag, they would receive no compensation for losing him. This is not an ideal situation but having Cousins under control for 2 years and no future cap hits is not as bad as it seems especially if the cap continues to increase annually.

First post but a long time lurker.[/quote]

According to this article he can still be traded.

[url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Kirk-Cousins-signs-franchise-tag-can-now-be-traded-51701289]Report: Kirk Cousins signs franchise tag, can now be traded[/url]

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1167648]Ricky Jean on the radio today basically backed up Cousins and in a nut shell said the Redskins are a mess. RJ is a respected guy and a stand up solid guy, not a disgruntled employee. That [B]says a lot[/B]...[/quote]

Lends credence to the idea that this organization is a freakin' circus. Why in the world would anyone (player, coach, GM, ball boy) ever want to be a part of this crap? The entirety of the rest of the NFL is either laughing their asses off, or shaking their heads in disbelief at the shenanigans going on here.

HTTDysfunctionalR!

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1167657]Lends credence to the idea that this organization is a freakin' circus. Why in the world would anyone (player, coach, GM, ball boy) ever want to be a part of this crap? The entirety of the rest of the NFL is either laughing their asses off, or shaking their heads in disbelief at the shenanigans going on here.

HTTDysfunctionalR![/quote]

Well Jay Gruden just got an extension for two years, so he seems to be okay here.

The NFL is shaking her head at us, they are laughing at Houston for having to give up a 2nd round pick to get rid of the QB they gave $37 million dollars last year.

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 

Agreed. He can be traded once he signs the franchise tag. My argument was based on the report Snyder told him not to get his hopes up regarding a trade and the Skins have no intention of ever trading him.

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 

KC is probably just trying to make Allen mad enough so that he just wants KC gone and will get it past Snyder's veto.

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Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 

I gotta believe this has Allen pretty annoyed and we cant have Cousins in the locker room ever again.
I would expect him to get traded toot sweet.

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1167658]Well Jay Gruden just got an extension for two years, so he seems to be okay here.

The NFL is shaking her head at us, they are laughing at Houston for having to give up a 2nd round pick to get rid of the QB they gave $37 million dollars last year.[/quote]

Well at least Houston has a defense and won a playoff game. They might have been wrong on Osweiler, but they aren't the shit show that this is...

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 

[quote=The Whale 13;1167642]Cousins is set make $23.94 million under the franchise tag in 2017 if no long term deal is signed by mid July. If Cousins refuses to play (unlikely), the tag would roll over to 2018 and 2017 would not count as a tag year. Cousins has to play for Skins in 2017 since he signed the franchise tag today. The Skins could use the transition tag in 2018 which would be a 20% increase to 2017 or $28.78 million. The transition tag would allow Cousins to get offers from other teams but the Skins can match any deal and Cousins would have to sign it regardless. If he plays under the transition tag, he would be a free agent in 2019 as the Skins are unable to tag him the 4th time under the CBA. I am fully aware of his disdain for Allen/Snyder but minus the cap ramifications the Skins do have control the next 2 years although Cousins has the leverage financially. The caveat here is that if the Skins don't match offers in 2018 under the transition tag, they would receive no compensation for losing him. This is not an ideal situation but having Cousins under control for 2 years and no future cap hits is not as bad as it seems especially if the cap continues to increase annually.

First post but a long time lurker.[/quote]

Good post, Whale. I was wrong about the transition tag. I thought we got compensation (outside compensatory picks) for the transition tag. I think this situation gets really interesting if KC gets hurt this season...

Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag
 

[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1167711]Well at least Houston has a defense and won a playoff game. They might have been wrong on Osweiler, but they aren't the shit show that this is...[/QUOTE]
They fucked pretty royally and their only hope is Romo. I wouldn't call them a model franchise and it is pretty laughable what they did.

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