Re: By Popular Demand. Should the Skins FIRE Jay Gruden? Thread
 

[QUOTE=MTK;1182056]We've had plenty of years of top 5 and top 10 picks. Hasn't gotten us anywhere.[/QUOTE]



We were going places with Scot until Allen and Snyder stepped in it.


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[quote=MTK;1182056]We've had plenty of years of top 5 and top 10 picks. Hasn't gotten us anywhere.[/quote]

Trent williams, Sean Taylor, Champ, RG3 etc. All have brought great play to this team.

Like I said, it's not for certain but high picks help

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1182060]We were going places with Scot until Allen and Snyder stepped in it.


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This is absolutely true and anyone who believes otherwise needs to open their eyes.

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Take away just half of the injuries this year and I think we'd be at least 7-5 right now. I know people want to bring the pitch forks and run everyone out of town, but injuries have really impacted our ability to stay competitve week in and week out.

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[quote=MTK;1182063]Take away just half of the injuries this year and I think we'd be at least 7-5 right now. I know people want to bring the pitch forks and run everyone out of town, but injuries have really impacted our ability to stay competitve week in and week out.[/quote]

of course it has, no doubt but even when we were fully healthy. (eagles week 1) (KC game) we still never look fully prepared.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1182061]Trent williams, Sean Taylor, Champ, RG3 etc. All have brought great play to this team.

Like I said, it's not for certain but high picks help[/quote]

The Patriots and Steelers haven't had a high pick in decades.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1182061]Trent williams, Sean Taylor, Champ, RG3 etc. All have brought great play to this team.

Like I said, it's not for certain but high picks help[/quote]Add LaVar Arringtong, Chris Samuels, and Brandon Scherff to that list of hits in the Top-5. Far more recent hits than misses in the Top-5, although in hindsight, I rate RG3 a miss, giving up three 1st round picks that yielded only one year of brilliance.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1182066]The Patriots and Steelers haven't had a high pick in decades.[/quote]

They have Tom Brady and BB. That is the X Factor and Pitt always plays in a shitty division with CLE and CIN.

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[quote=SouperMeister;1182067]Add LaVar Arringtong, Chris Samuels, and Brandon Scherff to that list of hits in the Top-5. Far more recent hits than misses in the Top-5, although in hindsight, I rate RG3 a miss for giving up three 1st round picks that yielded only one year of brilliance.[/quote]

yeah but until he got hurt he brought all of us a ton of excitement and hope.

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[quote=Chico23231;1182003]chill out folks. too many injuries and front office mistakes not getting a No 1 Wide Receiver and No 1 RB.[/quote]

And no game plan either

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I liked Scot but if he were still here what would we be doing differently? Our record would still be the same.

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[quote=MTK;1182056]We've had plenty of years of top 5 and top 10 picks. Hasn't gotten us anywhere.[/quote]

And that's because we haven't had a good player personnel GM who knows how to use those picks properly.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1182075]I liked Scot but if he were still here what would we be doing differently? Our record would still be the same.[/quote]

Well, had he had complete control, which he did not, then I think things would've been a lot different. Really, what separates a great GM from all the rest isn't what they do with the high draft picks, its what they do with the lower ones and the undrafted guys.

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[quote=MTK;1182063]Take away just half of the injuries this year and I think we'd be at least 7-5 right now. I know people want to bring the pitch forks and run everyone out of town, but injuries have really impacted our ability to stay competitve week in and week out.[/quote]

I just have a 2 pronged fork to take out Allen and Gruden, but since Allen is an untouchable, I basically just have an ice pick for Gruden.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1182065]of course it has, no doubt but even when we were fully healthy. (eagles week 1) [B](KC game) [/B]we still never look fully prepared.[/quote]

I thought we looked great in the KC game. KC was playing like the best team in the NFL at the time, our D was flying (until Norman got hurt), Pryor caught an early deep ball on one of the best corners in Peters .. that KC game was when the injuries started piling up and impacting our play imo.