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Kiper says Landry is the best defensive player on the board. I don't necessarily hate the pick, Landry should help in run support and with safety blitzes, but I'm obviously left wondering what they're going to do about the d-line.

Trade? Free agent? June 1 cut?

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[quote=TenandSix:Unacceptable;303708]The most bad ass saftey duo EVER!!!![/quote]
Great I hope they can sack the QB too.

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Where's GTripp?

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You never know, this will work. Its only April. Every Landry hater just relax. He will make plays.

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Couldn't trade down.......GOOD MOVE. Nice tandem at safety.

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I don't believe this is a bad pick at all. It would've been nice to have traded down and gotten some more picks, but I think this could work.

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Not that down on Landry--but the inability to trade down disappoints me. Still I look forward to seeing Landry on the field (say around Week 10)...

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[quote=TenandSix:Unacceptable;303708]The most bad ass saftey duo EVER!!!![/quote]

Unfortunately, both of our safeties are now rampaging monsters who don't mind being out of position and potentially giving up the big play as long as they make this week's "Jacked Up" highlight reel.

We also now have the dubious distinction of having two of the highest-drafted safeties in NFL history playing on the same squad.

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watch the vikes take quinn and miami will be kicking themselves not to make a big offer

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Games over for the day.....it was nice. Time to cut the grass

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I like the pick. Landry looks like a baller and with him and ST we won't get burned on the deep ball. We'll also have solid run support.

Landry was the best fit for the team and someone who will be able to contribute right away.

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Not totally dissapointed in the pick because Landry will be a great addition, however something has to be done to shore up the D-line. Maybe it is their intention to devote the remainder of their attention towards that, and the O-line depth.

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I'm sold on it. The D-Line will be addressed I have faith in the FO. I know that history shows that I shouldn't but recent history has me. They have been very quiet and patient in their dealings this year. My only concern is who is going to line the secondary up ? Taylor, Landry, P.P ?

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Well it's good that he can run fast, he's going to have to as opposing QBs are going to continue to have all day to throw to targets deep down field.

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[quote=dgack;303719]Unfortunately, both of our safeties are now rampaging monsters who don't mind being out of position and potentially giving up the big play as long as they make this week's "Jacked Up" highlight reel.

We also now have the dubious distinction of having two of the highest-drafted safeties in NFL history playing on the same squad.[/quote]

Well, I guess we're gonna find out if it is a dubious distinction or not. In the end, Landry offers more immediate help, and this has the stamp of GW written all over it. Like I said before, they probably asked him, "Secondary or DLine? Where do we need help at NOW?" His answer was straightforward, "Secondary."

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Deep down I knew they were going to do this.

Let's look at why our defense dropped last year:

1. No quality depth at CB when Springs got hurt
2. Arch was a major bust

GW has had successful defenses in the past with little or no pass rush from the front 4. As long as the secondary holds up he can generate rush from his creative blitz packages. His hands were tied last year with oursecondary play.

That is why we got Smoot in FA and draft Landry here....they figure if he did it once he can do it again.

Under this line of thinking there is no way we trade Springs now.

i don't like this reasoning (I think the game is won in the trenches) but I am not completely unhappy with this pick....we will see how it works out.
Plus they probably are thinking they can get a situational pass rush DE in the 5th and rotate him in on 3rd and longs.

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As they pointed out, we don't really have saftey depth either. Vernon Fox or Preloeu comming off a major injury? Not a bad pick at all, really. Should be a great player.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;303725]Well it's good that he can run fast, he's going to have to as opposing QBs are going to continue to have all day to throw to targets deep down field.[/QUOTE]

But then again, if the secondary has improved enough to where the QB has nobody to throw to, then you'll see more coverage sacks. I'd love for us to get a good DE or two, but this is probably the best thing the Redskins had to work with.

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Good job Redskins! This was the right pick!

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Does anyone worry that we replaced an in-the-box safety (Arch) with an in-the-box safety (Landry)? Not comparing them really but wondering how Grilliams intends to tweak the defense to play to Landry's strength--a strength that Grilliams could not harness with Arch...

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I really don't like this pick. Don't get me wrong, Landry is a great athlete, but we REALLY needed D Line help. How can anyone think that our line is even average. We have OLD LB's minus MacIntosh, so the line will be in trouble. We have no second or 3rd round picks to get a possibly decent DE, or DL...now what?

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[QUOTE=NYCSkin;303731]Does anyone worry that we replaced an in-the-box safety (Arch) with an in-the-box safety (Landry)? Not comparing them really but wondering how Grilliams intends to tweak the defense to play to Landry's strength--a strength that Grilliams could not harness with Arch...[/QUOTE]

I do!!!! I do think the coaches will be more inclined to MAKE this work, so in that respect, we have one of the best secondaries in the league...but again...our D LINE might be THE worst in all of football.

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I think this could turn out to be *THE* major debate of Redskins fans of this decade. Which is more important to our defense, D-Line or Backfield? There's pretty logical arguments behind both, and I think you can find examples where both can be proved right and wrong. Now we bite our nails for several months and hope GGrilliamsss made the right choice.

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LaRon Landry - great choice! The best available player on the board. And he fills a position of need at the same time. Best of both worlds.

We don't have a crying need a defensive lineman in my view. Here's Philip Daniels on why our sack totals were low (when we ran three man lines to protect the secondary) and why they were high (when we rushed four man lines):

[URL="http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?S=71&F=1348#S=71&F=1348&T=384128"]WarpathInsiders.com Forums[/URL]

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[quote=Mattyk72;303712]Kiper says Landry is the best defensive player on the board. I don't necessarily hate the pick, Landry should help in run support and with safety blitzes, but I'm obviously left wondering what they're going to do about the d-line.

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Or they believe they have the players they need already. The theme of that controversial ESPN article last year was that Williams believes that his scheme will work with nearly any group of players. To me, this pick indicates he believes the Redskins problems against the run were caused by his having to adjust the scheme to compensate for poor secondary play. With better LBers and Landry doing what they though Arch would do, he thinks the existing group is adequate. Or, they just didn't think the available DLs represented value and they had no trading partners. That's all I can come up with. Perhaps they will make a deal for more picks later today. I can't believe we are looking at the following as our starting defensive line:

Daniels, Griffin, Golston, Carter, and then when Griffin gets hurt

Daniels, Montgomery, Golston, Carter

I hope Landry is really. really good against the run.

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[QUOTE=skinsguy;303729]But then again, if the secondary has improved enough to where the QB has nobody to throw to, then you'll see more coverage sacks. I'd love for us to get a good DE or two, but this is probably the best thing the Redskins had to work with.[/QUOTE]

We definately improved the secondary, but no one in it is a top-notch cover guy that we can rely on. Springs is our best cover man and he's aging and injured way too often. Moreover, NO corner of safety is covering their man (assuming we're talking about man coverage) for more than a few seconds. I don't know, the improved secondary helps, I just would have liked to have seen us draft Okoye or trade down (if possible) to nab a DE.

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Landry is a fine player, but receivers will have all day to beat him because we have NO PASS RUSH! Thanks Vinny and Dan. I think I'm gonna be sick.

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True, we definitely need to address our D-line but I have confident in Gregg, he knows what to do.. Now our CBs are healthy, which means we can bring pressure by blitzing more, especially with Taylor and Landry (whom are designed to blitz).. I don't think we would have much of problems like last year..

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landry is the best defensive player in the draft, it is a good pick imo

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Landry projected by most scouts as a mid-first rounder until he ran a 4.35 at the combine?

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does anyone know what offers we had for our pick?

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But, this is a waste of time, really.. We can't say anything until we see Landry plays and see how it pans out.. So

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;303737]We definately improved the secondary, but no one in it is a top-notch cover guy that we can rely on. Springs is our best cover man and he's aging and injured way too often. Moreover, NO corner of safety is covering their man (assuming we're talking about man coverage) for more than a few seconds. I don't know, the improved secondary helps, I just would have liked to have seen us draft Okoye or trade down (if possible) to nab a DE.[/QUOTE]

Oh I agree with trading down. That was probably plan A and felt it didn't work out, so they chose plan B. It wasn't a bad move though, but probably wasn't their best move. Still, Landry and Taylor together in the secondary? That is going to be interesting.

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[QUOTE=DieHardSince76;303738]Landry is a fine player, but receivers will have all day to beat him because we have NO PASS RUSH! Thanks Vinny and Dan. I think I'm gonna be sick.[/QUOTE]

That sums it up well.

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So how many would've been happier with Jamaal Anderson?

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Laron Lanry

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[QUOTE=skinsguy;303744]Oh I agree with trading down. That was probably plan A and felt it didn't work out, so they chose plan B. It wasn't a bad move though, but probably wasn't their best move. Still, Landry and Taylor together in the secondary? That is going to be interesting.[/QUOTE]

Interesting, or a trian wreck?
That first time Landry blows an assignment, his head is going to be on a platter.

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i guess im like the most of you . . . wanted the team to address their biggest weakness but cant complaint about picking up a potentially great safety . . . when and if grif goes down it could kill the season

miami gets the player they wanted in quinn, we and the other teams looking to trade down got schooled

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;303741]Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Landry projected by most scouts as a mid-first rounder until he ran a 4.35 at the combine?[/quote]

I just want to go on record and say I think the emergence of and media insanity over the Combine is probably the worst thing to happen to the NFL in years.

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[QUOTE=skinsguy;303746]So how many would've been happier with Jamaal Anderson?[/QUOTE]

I honestly do not know much about Anderson and haven't seen him play (other than in highlights and 1 game). But, I would have been happy with drafting a DE. I would have been thrilled with drafting Okoye.

Also, that we have already improved the secondary (with Smoot and Macklin), suggests to me that it was time to focus on the D-line.