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[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;330617]We needed to keep Gus til we either got a better WR corp for him or landed Brad Johnson or anothe FA QB stud. Gus could have really been something if we had a WR corp back then. When the best guy you have to throw to was Westbrook, even P. Manning would be doomed!!!!!![/QUOTE]Peyton Manning would have done very well throwing to Michael Westbrook. Don't say ridiculous things!

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;330635]Enough with Gus Ferotte.[/QUOTE]

That right there was your best post ever

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[quote=GusFrerotte;330617]We needed to keep Gus til we either got a better WR corp for him or landed Brad Johnson or anothe FA QB stud. Gus could have really been something if we had a WR corp back then. When the best guy you have to throw to was Westbrook, even P. Manning would be doomed!!!!!![/quote]


We needed to be playing Trent Green all that time. I'll never understand how he didn't see the field before 1998. Frerotte was/is a journeyman. The only reason he had any reputation is that Schuler was so bad anyone would look good by comparison.

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[quote=GTripp0012;330636]Peyton Manning would have done very well throwing to Michael Westbrook. Don't say ridiculous things![/quote]


Michael Westbrook had talent. Just too much attitude to harness it.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;330640]Michael Westbrook had talent. Just too much attitude to harness it.[/QUOTE]Don't even care really. Peyton Manning is just so much better than Gus Frerotte that I can't even make a fair comparison without sounding like a complete asshole.

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Westbrook was a pain in the ass, no doubt, but you could put together a pretty decent highlight reel of his catches for us. People were expecting Micheal Irvin type stuff, though. He was average mostly with glimmers of above average.

His problem was he didn't have a durable body type. Those little tiny legs always looked like they were about to snap.

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[quote=GTripp0012;330641]Don't even care really. Peyton Manning is just so much better than Gus Frerotte that I can't even make a fair comparison without sounding like a complete asshole.[/quote]

True. I dont know where he is coming from.

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[quote=Dlyne8r;330549]It is ridiculous how many people I have heard stating how they don’t consider this issue a big deal (sorry Clinton P.). Says a lot about our society I guess.[/quote]

I really hope that Portis understands just how disgusting dog fighting is after reading the indictment. It's not boxing or UFC. It's vile to consider it entertainment. Torturing animals in teen years is a common thread among serial killers and serial rapists. It's not suggesting that killing an animal is the same as killing a person, it's the thrill of dominating and torturing a living creature. I hope the hard-on Vick got from torturing animals get's him through a few years in "federal pound me in the ass prison."
On a football note, Culpepper's release came at a perfect time for him. If his knee is healed, Petrino will still have his marque stud QB.

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[quote=saden1;330671]Michael Vick is Fucked![/quote]That's all I have to say, please continue with whatever you were doing.

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[quote=saden1;330671]That's all I have to say, please continue with whatever you were doing.[/quote]


very well put.

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21;330598]

And well done jsarno.[/QUOTE]

Thank you sir...but it was apparently lost on the ignorant.
But I digress. "Don't argue with the village idiot cause the passer by doesn't know the difference."
Some people just aren't worth the time.

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21;330598]So at any point do you plan on offering a single piece of intelligent discussion on anything football related? Just curious.

And somehow I doubt whether your being on summer break has any bearing on your abilities to spell properly or use proper grammar. Of course, if you are still on this site when your Junior High starts back up again (and you probably won't be), I guess you'll have the chance to prove me wrong.


And well done jsarno.[/QUOTE]

damn buddy, so because i have a different opinion on this subject than most on here i'm in junior high?!?! no need for the low bows bro, just say you don't agree with me and move on.........and you want something football related? ok......

OSU is gonna whip the $#!# outta PSU this year!!:spank:

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[quote=Dirty_Landry;330709]damn buddy, so because i have a different opinion on this subject than most on here i'm in junior high?!?! no need for the low bows bro, just say you don't agree with me and move on.........and you want something football related? ok......

OSU is gonna whip the $#!# outta PSU this year!!:spank:[/quote]OK D L. I ask you, What does OSU have to do with VIck? Can we PLEASE stay on topic? That means keep the discussions relevant to the thread. I am as guilty as anybody for hijacking threads from time to time but I think you are just trying to be hard to get along with.

Perhaps you should do some reading before you post again.....Just My opinion, Take it for what its worth. [url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/announcement.php?f=2[/url]

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[quote=Dirty_Landry;330709]damn buddy, so because i have a different opinion on this subject than most on here i'm in junior high?!?! no need for the low bows bro, just say you don't agree with me and move on.........and you want something football related? ok......

OSU is gonna whip the $#!# outta PSU this year!!:spank:[/quote]
Ok, let's review. As of the time I wrote my last post, your first four posts on this thread, actually, your first four posts since becoming a member of this site were as follows:

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Post 1: “WOW!!! if we can indict vick then.....[/FONT][/COLOR]
[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black]can we indict bush on murder charges as well??”[/COLOR][/FONT]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Post 2: “i don't believe a word a fed or cia agent says....there all scum”[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Post 3: “meaningless huh? oh sorry for that.....i didn't know people cared more about the life of their dogs than the lives over in iraq....but i guess if you don't see it than no harm huh.........sorry but i disagree with you, ain't nowhere to go but down from here buddy[/FONT][/COLOR]

[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black]its funny how americans thinking pattern goes when it comes to pets......if only we thought the same way for humans....thanxs for the welcome anyway, go skins!!”[/COLOR][/FONT]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Post 4: “its not just the war buddy, its the way we treat dogs as equal and sometimes better than humans!! it sickens me how we get up in arms when something like this happens, but what about darfur? hell what about the homeless and less fortunate living here in [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]america[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]!?!? we put dogs in $500 spas, buy $200 dollar outfits etc. i just wish i could ship some of these peta people across the ocean to see what life is really like for most of world....and i have 3 dogs so its not about me hating dogs at all........[/FONT][/COLOR]
[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black].....and after what the CIA did to the black panthers, how can i believe anything those scumbags say (sorry if there is grammer or spelling errors Mr. PSUSKINSFAN21, i'm on summer break and i could give a rats ass for a spelling check, just like most of the other people on this site from what i read) this AIN'T english 101.....like the AIN'T”[/COLOR][/FONT]

Trust me, your opinions have nothing to do with the fact that I assumed you were in junior high......rather, the content and tone of your posts did. What's worse is that you come on here and continually ignore the advice/instructions of the long-time members of this site to take your political opinions to the "parking lot" (it is a real place on this site, believe it or not). You see, it's obvious to me that from your first four posts you have a political agenda that you want to express. And however misguided that political agenda may be, there is still a forum available to you to express it.......it's just not on this thread. Want to avoid attacks? Then don't come onto this site all guns blazing and ignoring people who tell you to keep the off-topic discussion to a minimum.

That said, unless you are currently going to OSU or are an OSU alumni, I fail to see how your comment should matter to me at all.

Finally, in closing (as to post #2), a number of my current and former colleagues are/were federal prosecutors or "feds" as you like to lump them all together. These are decent, hard-working people who certainly do not deserve to be called "scum" by the likes of you.

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What would the NFL be like without Michael Vick?

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[quote=PSUSkinsFan21;330718]Ok, let's review. As of the time I wrote my last post, your first four posts on this thread, actually, your first four posts since becoming a member of this site were as follows:

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Post 1: “WOW!!! if we can indict vick then.....[/FONT][/COLOR]
[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black]can we indict bush on murder charges as well??”[/COLOR][/FONT]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Post 2: “i don't believe a word a fed or cia agent says....there all scum”[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Post 3: “meaningless huh? oh sorry for that.....i didn't know people cared more about the life of their dogs than the lives over in iraq....but i guess if you don't see it than no harm huh.........sorry but i disagree with you, ain't nowhere to go but down from here buddy[/FONT][/COLOR]

[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black]its funny how americans thinking pattern goes when it comes to pets......if only we thought the same way for humans....thanxs for the welcome anyway, go skins!!”[/COLOR][/FONT]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Post 4: “its not just the war buddy, its the way we treat dogs as equal and sometimes better than humans!! it sickens me how we get up in arms when something like this happens, but what about darfur? hell what about the homeless and less fortunate living here in [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]america[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]!?!? we put dogs in $500 spas, buy $200 dollar outfits etc. i just wish i could ship some of these peta people across the ocean to see what life is really like for most of world....and i have 3 dogs so its not about me hating dogs at all........[/FONT][/COLOR]
[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black].....and after what the CIA did to the black panthers, how can i believe anything those scumbags say (sorry if there is grammer or spelling errors Mr. PSUSKINSFAN21, i'm on summer break and i could give a rats ass for a spelling check, just like most of the other people on this site from what i read) this AIN'T english 101.....like the AIN'T”[/COLOR][/FONT]

Trust me, your opinions have nothing to do with the fact that I assumed you were in junior high......rather, the content and tone of your posts did. What's worse is that you come on here and continually ignore the advice/instructions of the long-time members of this site to take your political opinions to the "parking lot" (it is a real place on this site, believe it or not). You see, it's obvious to me that from your first four posts you have a political agenda that you want to express. And however misguided that political agenda may be, there is still a forum available to you to express it.......it's just not on this thread. Want to avoid attacks? Then don't come onto this site all guns blazing and ignoring people who tell you to keep the off-topic discussion to a minimum.

That said, unless you are currently going to OSU or are an OSU alumni, I fail to see how your comment should matter to me at all.

Finally, in closing (as to post #2), a number of my current and former colleagues are/were federal prosecutors or "feds" as you like to lump them all together. These are decent, hard-working people who certainly do not deserve to be called "scum" by the likes of you.[/quote]


Ah Deja Vu all over again. But seriously take the advice DL that the vets are giving you. If I didnt I wouldnt be here now.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;330723]Ah Deja Vu all over again. But seriously take the advice DL that the vets are giving you. If I didnt I wouldnt be here now.[/quote]

See, this guy knows what I'm talking about. :biggthump

You've come a long way Earthquake ;)

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Today in the news paper its said that Surry County is probably going to press other charges against Vick. Here's a link to the story if your interested in reading it but it just repeats most of the same stuff that we already know. It sounds like they are looking to go after him for animal cruelty type stuff and other things that the federal goverment is not pressing charges on Vick.

[url=http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=128721&ran=25286&tref=po]ARTICLE: Vick likely to face charges in Surry County (The Virginian-Pilot - HamptonRoads.com/PilotOnline.com)[/url]

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[QUOTE=Dirty_Landry;330584]its not just the war buddy, its the way we treat dogs as equal and sometimes better than humans!! it sickens me how we get up in arms when something like this happens, but what about darfur? hell what about the homeless and less fortunate living here in america!?!? we put dogs in $500 spas, buy $200 dollar outfits etc. i just wish i could ship some of these peta people across the ocean to see what life is really like for most of world....and i have 3 dogs so its not about me hating dogs at all........
.....and after what the CIA did to the black panthers, how can i believe anything those scumbags say (sorry if there is grammer or spelling errors Mr. PSUSKINSFAN21, i'm on summer break and i could give a rats ass for a spelling check, just like most of the other people on this site from what i read) this AIN'T english 101.....like the AIN'T[/QUOTE]


Well, yeah, if the CIA dared to fuck with the Black Panthers how could you trust them?

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;330764]Well, yeah, if the CIA dared to fuck with the Black Panthers how could you trust them?[/quote]
I asked him to go to the Parking Lot and start a thread to explain that to us but maybe he got lost so I'll try again. Go to the top of this page and click all forums, then click parking lot and then New Thread.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;330722]What would the NFL be like without Michael Vick?[/quote]
Is that a trick question?
Would anybody really care?
I would not, but it seems like always, the dude is already convicted in the media. I expect him to get suspended any time. Although, I think he is guilty, and I really like what the new commissioner is doing (for the most part), I don't know how he can discipline him without a conviction of some kind?
I Know the front office is REAL proud of the decision to trade my man Matt to the Texans..........what a deal

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Why do I get this feeling though that if he is involved he's not the only pro athlete involved in this particular ring, and I wonder if he'd start ratting out names

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;330771]Why do I get this feeling though that if he is involved he's not the only pro athlete involved in this particular ring, and I wonder if he'd start ratting out names[/QUOTE]
I was thinking the same thing.
It seems like the whole steroids thing in a way: what are the odds that only one guy on a team/in the entire league is involved in something like this?

If he starts naming names I think he might have to end up in witness protection because I'd think there'd be some really pissed off out-of-work football players out there looking for him.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;330722]What would the NFL be like without Michael Vick?[/QUOTE]

A lot better!

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[quote=jsarno;330790]A lot better![/quote]

NAH! I agree he is a piece of crap but, the NFL is this man's soap opera without bad guys there would be no drama.

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Ok admit it. How many of you keep waiting for WeWhite3/BMF21/ST21 to chime in with his opinion on this? :)

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[quote=SmootSmack;330803]Ok admit it. How many of you keep waiting for WeWhite3/BMF21/ST21 to chime in with his opinion on this? :)[/quote]

MUST be on vacation.......there can be no other explanation.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;330723]Ah Deja Vu all over again. But seriously take the advice DL that the vets are giving you. If I didnt I wouldnt be here now.[/QUOTE]


Ain't that the truth!!!! :D

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[QUOTE=mredskins;330798]NAH! I agree he is a piece of crap but, the NFL is this man's soap opera without bad guys there would be no drama.[/QUOTE]

We have the entire Bengals team...the NFL doesn't need a guy that can't be a real qb.
People have grown weary of his lack of QB ability and leadership. Sure he can run, but now fans have figured him out. His 15 minutes of fame are over.

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21;330718]Ok, let's review. As of the time I wrote my last post, your first four posts on this thread, actually, your first four posts since becoming a member of this site were as follows:

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Post 1: “WOW!!! if we can indict vick then.....[/FONT][/COLOR]
[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black]can we indict bush on murder charges as well??”[/COLOR][/FONT]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Post 2: “i don't believe a word a fed or cia agent says....there all scum”[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Post 3: “meaningless huh? oh sorry for that.....i didn't know people cared more about the life of their dogs than the lives over in iraq....but i guess if you don't see it than no harm huh.........sorry but i disagree with you, ain't nowhere to go but down from here buddy[/FONT][/COLOR]

[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black]its funny how americans thinking pattern goes when it comes to pets......if only we thought the same way for humans....thanxs for the welcome anyway, go skins!!”[/COLOR][/FONT]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Post 4: “its not just the war buddy, its the way we treat dogs as equal and sometimes better than humans!! it sickens me how we get up in arms when something like this happens, but what about darfur? hell what about the homeless and less fortunate living here in [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]america[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]!?!? we put dogs in $500 spas, buy $200 dollar outfits etc. i just wish i could ship some of these peta people across the ocean to see what life is really like for most of world....and i have 3 dogs so its not about me hating dogs at all........[/FONT][/COLOR]
[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black].....and after what the CIA did to the black panthers, how can i believe anything those scumbags say (sorry if there is grammer or spelling errors Mr. PSUSKINSFAN21, i'm on summer break and i could give a rats ass for a spelling check, just like most of the other people on this site from what i read) this AIN'T english 101.....like the AIN'T”[/COLOR][/FONT]

Trust me, your opinions have nothing to do with the fact that I assumed you were in junior high......rather, the content and tone of your posts did. What's worse is that you come on here and continually ignore the advice/instructions of the long-time members of this site to take your political opinions to the "parking lot" (it is a real place on this site, believe it or not). You see, it's obvious to me that from your first four posts you have a political agenda that you want to express. And however misguided that political agenda may be, there is still a forum available to you to express it.......it's just not on this thread. Want to avoid attacks? Then don't come onto this site all guns blazing and ignoring people who tell you to keep the off-topic discussion to a minimum.

That said, unless you are currently going to OSU or are an OSU alumni, I fail to see how your comment should matter to me at all.

Finally, in closing (as to post #2), a number of my current and former colleagues are/were federal prosecutors or "feds" as you like to lump them all together. These are decent, hard-working people who certainly do not deserve to be called "scum" by the likes of you.[/QUOTE]


hahahaha......ok i seriously thought when the other guy said "take it to the parking lot" he wanted to fight me!!:smashfrea didn't know it was a real site till this post. so don't worry you won't hear anything else from me on this topic buddy.....:food-smil

and yeah i do go to OSU, i just thought you would be able to put two and two together. and i just assumed you are somehow affiliated with penn state cause of your name. if so.........WE GONNA WAX THAT A$$ (i know i know :offtopic: ) last time though

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[quote=mredskins;330798]NAH! I agree he is a piece of crap but, the NFL is this man's soap opera without bad guys there would be no drama.[/quote]

I don't watch the NFL for drama. I watch it for FOOTBALL. Without the drama crap, it would be a lot more enjoyable to watch.

Besides, Vick is the most overrated player today. He's not a great passer, if his first or second option isn't open, he doesn't have the football IQ to find a receiver...he just runs. Yes, he's a great athlete but he's not a good QB. Look at his record. What has he won for his team? Only bad headlines, that's all.

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FOOTBALL is drama, that is why people watch it. Any sport is drama. I loved seeing Micheal Irving get smashed by D. Green because he was "the bad guy" back then. Buster, you may not like the off feild drama but FOOTBALL is the on-field drama.

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[quote=Dirty_Landry;330845]and yeah i do go to OSU, i just thought you would be able to put two and two together. and i just assumed you are somehow affiliated with penn state cause of your name. if so.........WE GONNA WAX THAT A$$ (i know i know :offtopic: ) last time though[/quote]
Ahh, so you really do go to OSU? Well that explains [U]everything[/U]. :joke: Here's to a fresh start.:food-smil

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;330723]Ah Deja Vu all over again. But seriously take the advice DL that the vets are giving you. If I didnt I wouldnt be here now.[/QUOTE]

And it's only taken 3,600+ posts to do it. :)

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Maybe Ookie got the wrong message...

[URL="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/McGruff.jpg"][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/McGruff.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21;330883]Ahh, so you really do go to OSU? Well that explains [U]everything[/U]. :joke: Here's to a fresh start.:food-smil[/QUOTE]

lol....somehow i knew that you were gonna say that:)

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[quote=Dirty_Landry;330845]hahahaha......ok i seriously thought when the other guy said "take it to the parking lot" he wanted to fight me!!:smashfrea didn't know it was a real site till this post. so don't worry you won't hear anything else from me on this topic buddy.....:food-smil

and yeah i do go to OSU, i just thought you would be able to put two and two together. and i just assumed you are somehow affiliated with penn state cause of your name. if so.........WE GONNA WAX THAT A$$ (i know i know :offtopic: ) last time though[/quote]
Now that I think about telling you to take it to the parking lot if you did not know what the parking lot was on this site you could see it as you did. Sorry for not explaining it to you in greater detail. We just keep all politics there and try to keep it very civil. It was band for sometime because a few people took it personal and started a bunch of personal attacks.

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I love what CPO said. 100% right. Free Mike Vick. The media hates him because he is hood and all the stupid stuff his brother did. He does so much for VA and has never been in trouble, I mean cmon his name got was shat on for an empty stash bottle that they had tested and said it never had ANY drugs in it, what a crime. They don't realize he is good dude, always has been...I hope they get this fixed soon.

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[QUOTE=JeromeES;331253]I love what CPO said. 100% right. Free Mike Vick. The media hates him because he is hood and all the stupid stuff his brother did. He does so much for VA and has never been in trouble, I mean cmon his name got was shat on for an empty stash bottle that they had tested and said it never had ANY drugs in it, what a crime. They don't realize he is good dude, always has been...I hope they get this fixed soon.[/QUOTE]

Have you read the indictment?

Those are not the actions of a "good dude". And again - Feds have a 95% conviction rate on their indictments. Thus, given the history of their indictments, and for public opinion purposes, it is 95% likely that allegations contained in it are true.

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NFL, Falcons might urge Vick to take paid leave

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2943276]ESPN - NFL, Falcons may urge Vick to take paid leave - NFL[/url]
Sounds like things are starting to happen.:goodjob: