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this is a good move i didn 't really like saunders 700 page playbook

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Nice article on redskins.com about Zorn. "Could signal significant change in the redskins offense next year". Positive feed from JC, ready to get started with Zorn.

[URL="http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=34055"]Zorn Takes Over Redskins' Offense[/URL]

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I think Gibbs tied Saunders hands a bit. I think we should of let him open it up see what he could do. I wish they would of made GW HC and kept Saunders.

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[quote=GTripp0012;412924]But as a professional, Campbell doesn't have to try to balance his studying of the playbook and verbage with the workload of a student athlete. He has plenty of time over the next 8 months to learn all the verbage. It's a total non-issue.

Saunders could have been successful here given more time, but I don't hold any specific allegance to him, and I'm not all that disappointed to see him go. Zorn will reap the success that Saunders would have had. To me, that's not a big deal.[/quote]

But here is my problem. JC would be going into his 3rd season w/ Al and would know the offense like the back of his hand. He would've had total command. Now he's got to start all over again for the 3rd time in 4 years?? That's just plain old stupid if you ask me. Plus all the WR's need to be on board too. You just don't see the other teams doing this to their franchise QB's. And you know it takes time for everyone to absord an NFL offense. Watch, I will bet that the offense struggles the 1st half of 08. Or perhaps Zorn will leave in some of Al's offense.

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JLC Redskins Insider: Other Assistants status.

Posted at 3:00 PM ET, 01/26/2008
Someone asked about the other assistants

So Jason Reid made some calls and reports: Washington Redskins linebackers coach Kirk Olivadotti, whose contract was set to expire this week, has signed an extension and is among the assistants expected to remain with the team, league sources said Saturday.
Williams and Saunders have been released, but management hopes to retain the majority of former coach Joe Gibbs's staff, according to sources. Olivadotti, 33, is highly regarded by Williams and former defensive line coach Greg Blache, who has been promoted to lead the Redskins' defense.
Despite his relative inexperience, Olivadotti's ability to identify opponents' tendencies and provide tips for Redskins defenders has helped to make him a key contributor on a coaching staff among the league's most experienced. Olivadotti also is popular with players.
UPDATE 1: Jason LaCanfora reports that the Rams and Raiders have asked the Redskins for permission to speak with Saunders about jobs and the Rams and Titans have asked for permission to speak to Williams about jobs, sources said. Apparently, teams still must do this because the two remain under contract.
Update II: Jason Reid reports that: assistant Bill Lazor, who coached the team's quarterbacks, has been fired, league sources said.
Lazor worked with Washington's quarterbacks the last two seasons. He developed a strong relationship with young quarterback Jason Campbell, whose development is a top priority for the organization.
Before joining the Redskins, Lazor spent the 2003 season as an entry-level assistant with the Atlanta Falcons. Lazor was a record-setting quarterback at Cornell

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Too bad about Lazor, I would have liked it if he had stayed. Maybe they'll bump Brunell up to QB coach :)

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[quote=SmootSmack;413420]Too bad about Lazor, I would have liked it if he had stayed. Maybe they'll bump Brunell up to QB coach :)[/quote]

I also liked Bill. I just wonder if they replace him with a guy like Zorn around to work and mentor JC?

You would think so.....but no tellin?

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;413422]I also liked Bill. I just wonder if they replace him with a guy like Zorn around to work and mentor JC?

You would think so.....but no tellin?[/QUOTE]

Zorn has too much to do now running the offense. No time to coach QBs

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maybe fassel is the QB coach...

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[QUOTE=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;413427]maybe fassel is the QB coach...[/QUOTE]


He might be our new HC, but I would find it hard to see him take the QB coach job, after being one of the front runners for the HC gig. I guess we will see soon enough.

I think Zorn will end up being a good fit in DC.

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JLC Redskin Insider: Zorn speaks about working with JC

Posted at 6:28 PM ET, 01/26/2008
Zorn Speaks

From Jason Reid: Just got off the phone with new Washington Redskins offensive coordinator Jim Zorn, who said he's excited about the potential of young quarterback Jason Campbell and eager to get started. As for who will be the Redskins' next head coach, Zorn said he's eager to find out as well.
"The quarterback situation is one of the reasons that I want to be there and work with Jason," said Zorn, who formerly coached the Seattle Seahawks' quarterbacks. "Focusing in on the QB is important to me. Now, I'll have the opportunity to focus on the entire offense as well as the QB, so I'm excited about that."
Zorn said he didn't want to discuss the Redskins' search for a head coach because "I really don't know what's going to happen there." With assistant head coach-defense Gregg Williams expected to leave the organization because he is no longer under consideration to replace Joe Gibbs, Jim Fassel and New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo are believed to be the remaining candidates.
"I've heard a lot of names out there too," Zorn said. "I've heard some more than others. ... The main thing for me is that I think the Redskins are in really good shape. I think it's a great football team. I'm really looking forward to this."

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[quote=SmootSmack;413426]Zorn has too much to do now running the offense. No time to coach QBs[/quote]

Zorn just might be the QB coach also......as it appears

Saunders' fate was sealed when Zorn, the [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/sea/;_ylt=A9G_bxr735tHVKgAPAAdsLYF"]Seattle Seahawks[/URL] quarterback coach since 2001, agreed to a three-year deal Friday. Zorn will also coach the quarterbacks, making Lazor's job redundant.

[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=A9G_bx153ZtH1xIBjABDubYF?slug=ap-redskins-coachingsearch&prov=ap&type=lgns"]Redskins fire 2 assistants, promote Blache; head coach still TBA - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/URL]

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;413420]Too bad about Lazor, I would have liked it if he had stayed. Maybe they'll bump Brunell up to QB coach :)[/QUOTE]

Yeah another stupid move by a stupid owner.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;413510]Zorn just might be the QB coach also......as it appears

Saunders' fate was sealed when Zorn, the [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/sea/;_ylt=A9G_bxr735tHVKgAPAAdsLYF"]Seattle Seahawks[/URL] quarterback coach since 2001, agreed to a three-year deal Friday. Zorn will also coach the quarterbacks, making Lazor's job redundant.

[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=A9G_bx153ZtH1xIBjABDubYF?slug=ap-redskins-coachingsearch&prov=ap&type=lgns"]Redskins fire 2 assistants, promote Blache; head coach still TBA - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/URL][/QUOTE]

Wow, very interesting on Zorn. I wish he would delegate the responsibility. But he has been given control of the offense so he's entitled to do what he wants I suppose.

I feel bad for Lazor because he seemed like a good guy and you don't like to see people get fired, especially those who don't likely have others knocking down their doors. I mean, I suspect he's not in high demand. But it's premature to call it a stupid move by a stupid owner

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[quote=SmootSmack;413516]Wow, very interesting on Zorn. I wish he would delegate the responsibility. But he has been given control of the offense so he's entitled to do what he wants I suppose.

I feel bad for Lazor because he seemed like a good guy and you don't like to see people get fired, especially those who don't likely have others knocking down their doors. I mean, I suspect he's not in high demand. But it's premature to call it a stupid move by a stupid owner[/quote]

Agreed that it's premature to call this dumb. Zorn is fantastic with QBs, and we don't want Campbell getting mixed messages. What if Lazor was coaching him up one way last year and changed his approach suddenly when Zorn took over? Not good for rapport with JC. Zorn is a QB guru (GTripp?) in line for an OC job. So now he's both.

I do feel badly for Lazor, but he'll figure it out. He's still very young.

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Zorn has certainly done a fine job in Seattle with Matt H. I think this will be good for JC to work with an Ex-NFL QB, the experience is priceless.

Zorn does have alot more responsibilities in his role as OC/QB coach. He has a full plate. We will see how he makes out.

Bill Lazor seemed to be a fine young coach, just not so sure he was the right guy for the job as our QB coach, just due to lack of experience (I know you have to get it some where, I just had the feeling he was in over his head). Hopefully he will find work.

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[QUOTE=Texanskin;412869] I hate to be negative but the growth of our QB is crucial. [/QUOTE] And I am almost 100 percent sure that is why they hired Jim Zorn as their offense coordinator.

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[quote=SmootSmack;413516]Wow, very interesting on Zorn. I wish he would delegate the responsibility. But he has been given control of the offense so he's entitled to do what he wants I suppose.

I feel bad for Lazor because he seemed like a good guy and you don't like to see people get fired, especially those who don't likely have others knocking down their doors. I mean, I suspect he's not in high demand. But it's premature to call it a stupid move by a stupid owner[/quote]

Sounds like Lazor isn't out yet, might just be up to the next HC? That might be the only coaching decision he makes.....

The person said Al Saunders' son, offensive assistant Bob Saunders, will not return next season. Less certain was the future of quarterbacks coach Bill Lazor. After initially deciding that Lazor will not be back next season, the [URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/67062"]Redskins[/URL] instead will leave his fate to the new head coach

[URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7723090/Redskins-fire-Williams,-Saunders;-Blache-promoted"]FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Redskins fire Williams, Saunders; Blache promoted[/URL]

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;413740]Sounds like Lazor isn't out yet, might just be up to the next HC? That might be the only coaching decision he makes.....

The person said Al Saunders' son, offensive assistant Bob Saunders, will not return next season. Less certain was the future of quarterbacks coach Bill Lazor. After initially deciding that Lazor will not be back next season, the [URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/67062"]Redskins[/URL] instead will leave his fate to the new head coach

[URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7723090/Redskins-fire-Williams,-Saunders;-Blache-promoted"]FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Redskins fire Williams, Saunders; Blache promoted[/URL][/QUOTE]

Damn! Damn! Damn! Not Bob Saunders. Nooooo!!! That's it, Goodell needs to fold this franchise right now!!! ;)

Seriously though, thanks for the update on Lazor. That's very interesting

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My other question is this. If the leading candidate is Fassel and they are waiting to contact Spagnoulo how will they fit the systems? When Fassel was in NY was their offense a WC style or will there be friction between Fassel and Zorn about style and play calling? If the HC is Spagnoulo he is a defensive minded coach, is his style similar to Blache's or are they going to blend their schemes? Unless the HC is simply going to be a figure head (Fassel) then I can't see Spagnoulo coming to the Skins unless his ideas are similar to Blache's.

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who's gonna be campbell's backup???collins will go where sanders does,and brunnell is'nt coming back,so wtf is the backup gonna be???

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[quote=SBXVII;413752]My other question is this. If the leading candidate is Fassel and they are waiting to contact Spagnoulo how will they fit the systems? When Fassel was in NY was their offense a WC style or will there be friction between Fassel and Zorn about style and play calling? If the HC is Spagnoulo he is a defensive minded coach, is his style similar to Blache's or are they going to blend their schemes? Unless the HC is simply going to be a figure head (Fassel) then I can't see Spagnoulo coming to the Skins unless his ideas are similar to Blache's.[/quote]

Zorn worked under Mike Holgrom, who is famous for running the west coast offense, so I don't really see any problems there. Personally I don't understand the desire to interview Spagnoulo, he looks like a poor mans Gregg Williams to me.

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As far as I'm concerned, we get a veteran QB with some experience with the west coast offense.

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[QUOTE=redskinsfanatic;413790]who's gonna be campbell's backup???collins will go where sanders does,and brunnell is'nt coming back,so wtf is the backup gonna be???[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't be surprised if Zorn brings in someone completely new or lobbies for a late round draft pick to groom as the backup under his tutelage.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;413874]I wouldn't be surprised if Zorn brings in someone completely new or lobbies for a late round draft pick to groom as the backup under his tutelage.[/QUOTE]

He's the backup :)

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;413878]He's the backup :)[/QUOTE]

LOL. Good one :)

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I know Zorn worked under Holmgren but now we are running a WC offense. Will Fassel be alright in it? or if we go with a defensive HC then will Spagnoulo or Meeks be alright with Blache?

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[quote=SBXVII;413905]I know Zorn worked under Holmgren but now we are running a WC offense. Will Fassel be alright in it? or if we go with a defensive HC then will Spagnoulo or Meeks be alright with Blache?[/quote]


supposedly, zorn is the guy that fossil wanted.

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[quote=wolfeskins;413910]supposedly, zorn is the guy that fossil wanted.[/quote]

which is why I belive Fassel already has the job. I'm for Meeks though since he used to work with the Skins.

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I think all we really know is Dan or whoever might be the HC or both wanted to bring in FOSSIL/RYAN/ZORN. We have one of the three at this point, Ryans not coming and no telling whats going to happen with the FOSSIL?

And it anyones guess who wanted what...? But we know who pays the bills, that might shed some insight.......no matter what happens the new HC is having NO say so in his staff Dan & Vinny have already takin care of that! So no matter who comes in has very little say so and will get along with who is in place already on the coaching staff (unless the HC has already been determined behind closed doors, which I don't believe). The new coach will be no more than a puppet. If things don't go well this season, I could easily see the new HC being on a very short leash (ONE YEAR), kinda like another coach we had (Marty).

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;413948]I think all we really know is Dan or whoever might be the HC or both wanted to bring in FOSSIL/RYAN/ZORN. We have one of the three at this point, Ryans not coming and no telling whats going to happen with the FOSSIL?

And it anyones guess who wanted what...? But we know who pays the bills, that might shed some insight.......no matter what happens the new HC is having NO say so in his staff Dan & Vinny have already takin care of that! So no matter who comes in has very little say so and will get along with who is in place already on the coaching staff (unless the HC has already been determined behind closed doors, which I don't believe). The new coach will be no more than a puppet. If things don't go well this season, I could easily see the new HC being on a very short leash (ONE YEAR), kinda like another coach we had (Marty).[/QUOTE]


Unless of course, these particulars were discussed in previous interviews. Of which both Meeks and Fassel have had at least one with DS & VC. It wouldn't surprise me if that was something they discussed with either candidate.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;413797]As far as I'm concerned, we get a veteran QB with some experience with the west coast offense.[/QUOTE]

Kerry Collins and Trent Dilfer are likely candidates. That being said, let's all pray Jason stays healthy.

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Zorn is okay with me, I wish we had saunders for another year.

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imo, dan already knows who he's going to hire as the next coach and these coordinators have already been approved by that person. i still think it's gonna be fassel.

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I think Zorn should be pretty good. I was reading [URL="www.seahawkshuddle.com"]www.seahawkshuddle.com[/URL] and people really didn't seem to want to part with him.